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I wouldn’t be. If he’s not a guy who can win a SB or win an MVP, I’d rather he just crashed and burned so we could move on to a QB who can. We have already wasted 5, now 6, years post healthy Cam. I don’t want to waste a decade. I wish we hadn’t traded so many god damn picks for nothing so we had some more young talent around Young to evaluate him better. Sucks that we don’t.

I recall being poo’d on just saying our depth is paper thin and unfortunately it’s starting to look like we will be testing that depth this year. Also, don’t forget G. Down two starters right now. Depth didn’t look as good today. Got a rough stretch coming up @Seattle, Minnesota, @Detroit and @Miami before we see the other rookie QBs and Fields. Our schedule after the next 4 is relatively easy aside from Dallas and Jax. Hopefully, we figure things out for the other 9. If we do at least we won’t watch the Bears get Harrison Jr with our pick.

It’s weird to see this take out of you as big as a Cam fan as you were/still are. Cam in 2011 was an anomaly. I liked Young even though the size was a potential issue. I think I mainly just wanted a rookie and was willing to believe in our vast staff QB knowledge that Young would be really good. It’s hard to say what’s to blame the most, Reich, WRs or Young, but you’re lying if you haven’t watched all his deeper throws and noticed serious accuracy issues. He’s not Cam or even close to him on the deep ball. Here’s hoping he settles into a Wilson or Brees like career.

Whether or not OP was a troll, I agreed with him and it seems as though we were right. Two games where we fell behind and he’s managed 2 catches for 23 yards. He’s on pace for 17-196 and he seems to be our WR4 now. He was drafted just before the #1 and #19 ranked Centers we desperately needed at the time. Bozeman is ranked #17 and has been fine, but passing up arguably the best C in the league when our OL was shut was horrible. Ugh, there were a bunch of us wanting OL like crazy that draft. KC road 2 OL we should have taken to a SB win. OK, enough whining by me, just wondering if people still feel like he’s got loads of potential. I’m still down on him and hope Chark stays healthy so we can evaluate him and hope Mingo gets all the WR3 reps so we can see what he’s got.

Three things that I noticed last night. First was something I already felt. Marshall isn’t good enough to be our answer at WR. The team seems to agree a bit as Mingo was out there a lot. I would like to see the snaps. Second is way more concerning. Granderson, who has a career high 5.5 sacks, looked like a monster against Iky. Third, Burns seemed to be easily handled by Ramzyck (I think it was him mainly) with a simple chip or just by himself. I will say that I missed parts of the game, but I didn’t feel good about 2 or 3. 1 was as expected to me.

Which is not a good thing IMHO. I know our WRs are bad, but almost every deeper throw just seems way off.

Are you already saying that our all star coaching staff was the wrong choice?

Reminds me of our 1-7 finish to 2018 when opponents realize Cam’s arm was shot that year and he couldn’t throw it deep.

Yeah, pinning the special on a drive where the D was in full prevent mode is grasping a bit. No idea if Young will work out like we hope but that drive was helped a lot by the Saints.

It’s amazing what we could have done. With pick 36 (and a little trade up) we could have had LaPorta or Musgrave as a future athletic pass catching TE with some blocking ability. Then we have two more firsts which we probably could have used in the Young trade. Bears would have rather had the Rams picks and maybe we don’t have to deal DJ. We already traded CMC but damn, we could have easily kept him if we were thinking trade Burns was too priority. Those three draft picks (Rams or saving our own) should bet us a TE, solid WR and solid OL to help out Young and you still have $30M a year to sign a couple FAs to help out on D. It was a no brainer and I liked Burns from before we drafted him. It’s a matter of him not being at the Bosa level where you don’t take that haul. We clearly have too many gaping holes on offense to not make that trade if we wanted to go all in on a QB this past draft.

Rattle off the list of QBs that started day one? You think that’s hard? 2023 - All three 1sts started day 1 2022 - Pickett came in game 4, started every game since 2021 - Lawrence, Wilson and Mac started week 1. Trey Lance is dog poo and Fields started week 3. 2020 - Burrow started week 1, Herbert started week 2 (no idea why) and Tua started late because of his hip injury when people weren’t even sure if he’d play that year. Love was selected when GB had a HOF QB there. 2019 - Murray started day 1, Jones started week 3. Haskins was trash. Sorry, but I hope you weren’t actually being serious when you thought I was wrong that top rookie QBs, especially top 10 picks start week 1. Outside of injury (Tua), being behind a HOF QB (Love) or just being a shitty QB (Lance and Haskins) that doesn’t even make it through the rookie deal, almost every QB drafted in the first started week 1 or at worst week 3. Honestly, I probably shouldn’t even have Pickett or Love in my list because they were taken by playoff teams at 20+ draft slots. Every 1st overall pick in the last 5 drafts (4 of them) started week 1 and haven’t stopped starting except for injury. If Young sat for Dalton for most of this year, I’d say we fuged up the pick royally. He may never reach elite status but if he didn’t start until we’ll into the season it would be a really bad sign as the top pick.

Well, he may be the best all around threat ever. That size and speed combo hasn’t been seen since Jim Brown but Brown couldn’t throw it like Taysom. God broke the mold when he created that specimen.

Well, at least we can get started figuring out our solid 1st round pick this year…oh fug. 0-2 in the division while the rest of the division is 6-0 might be the worst position we’ve been early in the year in a while. Cam no shoulder was 6-2 his last year sort of healthy year, Allen was 5-1 after Cam was lost after 2 games, Teddy started 3-2, Sam started 3-0 and last year we were in the division race until the last week.

That’s BS. Plenty of teams have started rookie QBs with no issues at all. The #1 overall pick has to start.

We mortgaged our future with Young, didn’t trade Burns to get him some weapons (Sam LaPorta wen two picks before the Rams 2nd we could have had) and we basically traded CMC for Mingo and DJ Johnson. SF clearly already won that trade and CMC hasn’t even played a full season with them. Heck, I think the Rams won that trade by not making it and the Bears may have a new QB or Marvin Harrison Jr to go with DJ Moore. Young still has time to develop but could we have screwed the pooch more so far with those trades/non-trade.

Donte is not lockdown. RB was wide open. Back breaking blown coverage by Donte.

That was after he and some other WR basically ran into each other. He was only open because Young had already broken to the right so he ran where the D didn’t follow him. Felt like that almost interception early where we had two WRs right next to each other bringing two DBs to the same spot.

Honestly, on offense, I am really starting to worry. Our D kept us in both games but we can’t score. This offense looks worse than Rhule/Wilks era. We had a trash OL in 2021 and we at least started with 24 ppg in weeks 1 to week 6 before opponents realized our OL was trash and Darnold was our QB. Of course losing CMC hurt. We certainly aren’t seeing that special spark to make us feel good about the future. Mingo has -2 yards and Marshall has done nothing. Lol at people thinking he’d have a 1000 yard season. SMH.

Yep, where are all the preseason doesn’t matter because we are making sure to be vanilla so the real stuff knocks the poo out of our two early division games. Seems like the poo we saw in preseason, that worried some of us, was a legit reason to worry.

I know I won’t rewatch it but I know for a fact the TD was on him and Woods knocked it out. I’m not 100% sure on the other one but I thought it was when the play happened. The TD knockout was replayed so definite, not the other.

Just an FYI, but Olave beat him for a TD but Woods saved him. Olave was also ridiculously open when Carr missed him by a mile before half.

We can’t with the trade. I miss the Sam Darnold start to 2021. I think that’s the best our offense has been since early 2018.

Well TBH, if we were holding back on showing things, keeping things vanilla and not playing starters much at all since we started with two division games, then yes we should be much farther along. Otherwise, we used our preseason completely wrong. I still laugh that Reich said he didn’t have time to tell Young that NFL defensive players will cheat at times. If Young hadn’t had enough NFL playing experience to learn that then he should have played a lot more because that lost us the game not Atlanta being surprised by the schemes we hid.

The preseason doesn’t matter crowd was about the results. I 100% agree that we didn’t use preseason correctly. The same people said we went bland and didn’t show much because we played Atlanta and NO out of the gate. If we lose tonight, that shows how dumb that was and that we should have been getting our rookie QB as many real reps as possible to avoid throwing the same interception twice, which Reich said was his fault because he didn’t have a chance to tell him that NFL defenders might cheat at times (sort of laughable coming from the SEC).

Isn’t it amazing how this place was basically saying with the off-season we had (adding the most ready rookie QB plus an all star coaching staff and our finish showing the Rhule effect was gone) meant we’d be favorites for the division? Then we got the preseason doesn’t matter mixed in with the we all know this would be a rebuild where playoff talk was clearly setting way to high expectations? I didn’t mind the Young trade but damn we need to see something promising. A loss like the Atlanta one would be really tough to swallow.