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SMH. It hurts when I read this knowing that we had 2 1sts and pick 36 for Burns. Pick 36 was right after La Porta so we could have traded up with DJ Johnson’s 4th to get La Porta or heck we could have traded his 3rd and 4th and gotten Kincaid. 2023 was the prime fuging year to draft a TE and we took Mingo and DJ and now we are looking for a TE. Fitterer is literally the worst GM on the planet. No, Moore is not available at all so GB we don’t want pick 15. Oh, we need to throw in Moore to sweeten the Young trade up? Sure thing. Ugh, just so freaking bad, like Hurney 2.0 just even worse.

Me too. I recall a bunch of talk from our top article poster about how Rhule was on the hot seat to start 2022, which makes sense since he got fired after 5 games, and how Fitterer was given the controls personnel wise in 2022. That’s why Fitt got all the credit for great value trade for Mayfield (before he played) and for building the OL. The funny thing is that I think Tepper is involved but I think he thinks Hurney in 2020 and Fitt in 2021-2023 were solid. He gave Rhule full control. Does that sound like a guy who is making every decision? Why would Tepper hired a staff with so much experience and well thought of coordinators only to tell them what to do. One of the Reich highlights during the process was that he had his staff ready to go. Again, I think Tepper is involved but I think all the Tepper hate is coming from avoiding the truth that our GM and coaches are just plain bad outside of maybe the DC. The two main topics of recent discussion are always the point guard crap which Brown is on record saying 2 months before Tepper and the meetings with Reich. The meetings with Reich seem perfectly aligned with an owner of a 1 win team that was sold playoffs/one QB away by Fitt and Reich. I don’t know for sure but I don’t think Tepper is changing decisions.

Or they kept Hurney and hired Fitterer. I know Tepper has taken over the Rhule boogeyman role but I still can’t believe people in here think either of them made every single decision. I go back to why we laughed at Tepper to start when he said how good a college scout Hurney was. That doesn’t come out of the mouth of a guy who’s running the draft for the team. I think a lot upset with the offense and meetings with Reich have come from Tepper having way more trust in Fitterer and the coaching staff that people think. Thomas Brown started the point guard QB talk in February that everyone associates with Tepper’s interview in April. Also, not really directed this at you, just worked with the Or. Tepper has still been a disaster because he’s hired very poorly and we are the worst team now that Murray’s back.

We could have had a pro-bowl center and a solid young TE like Musgrave or La Porta (4th we wasted for Johnson jumps 38 to 33) or a bevy of fast WRs. Again, Fitt has been just awful and I think we can no longer just blame Rhule since Fitterer is doing the same poo now as he did with prior drafts.

No kidding. We are 1-8. Trading picks away for WRs is beyond stupid. He’s already pissed away so much talent and drafted poorly that we are worse than Rhule’s teams. Now he wants to fug up our future even more. If you want Higgins sign him as a FA. Higgins doesn’t make us a contender so stop wasting picks. He’s more of a cover my ass/do deals to save my job than Hurney was. If we let him do any more he will ruin the next decade.

Who cares? This team is a bucket of balls. Yes, the D played better than the O but it was Pagent trying to not to lose.

Our 2024 1st is back to pick #1, so we got that going for us.

Yep. We waste a time-out so you can’t even get the ball back if the D gets a 3 and out. If you are going to potentially kick a 59 yarder, WTF don’t you call some plays to at least make it a low 50 yarder. Coaching is poo.

Was thinking the same thing. How slow was he running?

Fug you Al Michaels, we know we could have drafted Stroud.

Holding and offensive PI work for you?

We can’t even get excited about having our best draft pick position since Cam. Is there any old NFL rule we can find where we can return Young to Chicago for our 2024 pick?

False start by Iky yet again. SMH.

fug you Al Michaels, we know exactly what we gave up. fuging Fitterer. Might be the shittiest GM ever in the history of the NFL.

I’d have turned this crap off if I didn’t have tomorrow off. This team is so far from competitive it’s ridiculous.

Well, we gave them an OT and DJ Moore along with a bunch of other great picks.

Jackson has been solid tonight although the throw was late.

I’ve been done with him ever since we passed on Humphrey for him. He hasn’t been able to get separation since day one. Announcers said that Bears CB was the most picked on CB and he’s blanketing TMJ. I’m still laughing at people saying he’d be a 1000 yard WR.

What? If Reich told a Colts beat writer who he liked at QB, knowing the Colts needed a QB and we had a pick 5 picks after, that is about the stupidest thing Reich can do. Hopefully, he was just blowing smoke. Again, we didn’t have the number 1 pick until a month after the combine.

WTF would anyone think we should keep Fitterer? The amount of bad moves he has made have been ridiculous.

I chuckled even though I was thinking the same thing before reading the thread. Kudos on the delivery!

Yep. If you do that, CMC should be gone but we only made the one move that got us the least and then tossed in Moore for way less to get the Young deal done. We half assed it as usual and did it all wrong.

CMC’s deal was east to afford. SF got 4 years out of him at a little over $10M per. It was very reasonable for us as well considering the sunk costs were gone. I was fine with the trade itself because I was assuming we were actually doing a rebuild. Nope. We decided a 1st (pick 15) from GB wasn’t enough for Moore and two 1sts and a 2nd was not enough for Burns. In 19 games with ST (basically 18 as he barely played his first), CMC has 2154 yards and 23 TDs. We only have 12 offensive TDs this year. If we traded CMC, Moore and Burns last season knowing we weren’t competing for until rookie QB’s 3rd/4th year. I would have said sweet to saving/rolling over $120M in cap for 2025/2026 and having 2 1sts in 2023, 2024 and 2025 and 2 extra 2nds in 2023. Instead we trade the guy who saves us the least cap, is the most elite at his position of the 3 and got us the least return in draft picks. Well, we ended up getting way less for Moore in the Young trade than GB offered but that’s because Fitt is a horrible GM.

Not sure the defense deserves a lot more credit. They have been legitimately bad in a lot of games not just because of turnovers by the offense. I think the total yards is skewed a bit by the fact that we are almost always behind and very often out of the game. Teams aren’t piling up passing yards and garbage time stats because there’s no need. It’s not our amazing secondary locking people down. When teams are running out the clock against us they aren’t piling up yards. The defense has had its moments and certainly hasn’t been the biggest issue but teams have not had a hard time scoring against us when they needed to score.

Umm, have you been paying attention? We have been saying F them picks for Fitt’s tenure. We gave up 2nd, 4th and 6th for Darnold, 3rd for CJ, 5th for Mayfield, 3rd and 4th for Corral, 3rd and 4th (CMC) for DJ Johnson and 1st, 1st, 2nd (CMC), 2nd and DJ Moore for Young. All we have for that is Young. The Burns trade was a freaking bounty and there is no scenario to reject. There have been multiple FAs available every year that have put up 9-10+ sacks. Could have signed Floyd or traded for Sweat or Chase this year. We also let Reddick go ourselves. $30M a year gets us Sweat plus Floyd like yearly rentals. Then those 2 1sts and pick 36 can become offensive weapons or get you a QB.