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That’s horrible value if true. That’s literally 5-10 picks. At that point in the draft, we’d probably get the same guy we wanted at either their 5th or our 6th. Again, hoping that’s not correct.

My son said a swap of our 6th for their 5th. I really hope we got more than that. With where we both finish that’s basically nothing. I wouldn’t even bother for that little. Comp pick would be better. Hopefully, my son is wrong.

It’s a bad year for that at top picks. Pearce at Tennessee was the top or right there not that long ago and he didn’t impress me at all when I’ve watched him. He seems like a lesser Burns. Much rather go CB/DT in 1st and look at edge in 2nd, FA or next draft.

No kidding. When they got up 28-7, I as a Bo Nix FF owner, noticed that they completely pulled in the reins to coast to a victory. Honestly, it’s kind of comical that the final score was 28-14 and Horn would be pissed about running up the score. Nix found wide open guys every play. They could have scored another 28 points if they wanted to run it up.

It always has. What other team would be crying about not being able to pay $$$s on a second contract to an average RB when your GM already selected a “more talented” RB in the 2nd round? We’ve always way overrated our players and it’s been worse since we’ve been a losing team.

I agree he has been a bit ass. That said, I think he can be better if our pass rush wasn’t non-existent.

I want to go Travis Hunter. If he’s the best CB, he would pair well with Horn. Best case scenario is we trade back a few picks and still get a stud CB/DT and another 2026 1st.

Yep. I understand Canales knows Yoing’s limitations but I can’t believe we traded so much away for a QB who on 3rd and 14 was clearly going with a short pass.

We are. New England and Cleveland winning put us 1 with only Tennessee as the other 1 win team. Incredibly, there are eight 2 win teams. We just have to keep losing and we are good. Tennessee has a higher SOS and I think they have a better shot at winning a game.

Is there any other team that’s signed so many hurt guys or guys coming off serious surgeries? We seem to throw out big money for guys like Paradis, Okung and Wonnum and get little to no return. It’s like we’re surprised when it doesn’t work out.

We’ve got no winning strategy. Had we traded Burns and Moore when we got great offers, we’d have been in great shape if we just took the guys taken at those picks and in one case drafted the top WR available to replace Moore. It can absolutely be a winning strategy. If you sell off the same guys a year later for spare change and use it to trade up for a shitty QB, it doesn’t work. Our GM fuged us. It’s that simple. Had nothing to do with one way being better than another.

After not having a losing season to 1-6 and a team so far from competing, it’s extremely obvious that he’s gone. That’s why you see if you can get good value now.

No disagreement there although I will say that our best value draft pick is a replaceable RB that Mrs. Rhule wanted to pick. SMH. I understand the wanting to keep our good guys because we’ve got what, Horn, Brown, Hubbard and maybe Diontae as at least average or better NFL players. RBs on 2nd deals aren’t important. Getting as many shots (Dan Morgan you better do better) at marquee guys is what we need. We will be stuck in this hole until we have some of those recent Detroit/Houston type drafts. 2024 wasn’t that so starting in 2025 we need a banger.

My son’s going to be ecstatic since he’s got the Denver D in our fantasy league and they are the best D so far. I’m starting Nix this week. Figure he should get a 100 on the ground.

Also, people don’t be scared about trading a player who isn’t going to sign with us. Clearly if we’ve gotten no movement, Diontae has no desire to be here. Hopefully, this pitiful scouting department can actually do something with these picks.

Umm, did you see his interview after the 40-7 loss where he said he can’t play every position? I am not going to call that cancerous because he’s correct, but he’s not resigning with us. That’s clear.

See my long post above. If you are scared of Brooks not being better than Chubba and you’d rather have both and pay Miles Sanders money to Chubba because we can’t draft well, you aren’t going to solve anything. I’ll repeat myself. If we can’t draft well in the future, we will always suck. There are no set of players you can keep extending and not trading that will make this current team a playoff team in the future. If we finally have a stud QB, we can find another Chubba in every single future draft. He’s been solid for a 3-21 team but he’s replaceable.

At some point we need to draft well. I didn’t want to trade CMC or Moore. We should have traded Burns to the Rams. Burns is the perfect example of why sometimes you should trade players away for picks before paying them a bundle. Here’s another draft story that might make sense. If we traded Burns and Moore (I don’t think CMC was worth the picks) during 2022 when the Rams offered 2 1sts and 1 2nd and the Packers offered a 1st for Moore, here’s what we could have had based on the picks and players available at those picks/a couple later: 2023 GB 1st - Will McDonald and his 11 sacks this year was taken at pick 15 which GB offered. 2023 LAR 2nd - Steve Avila starting G, could have spent Lewis’ $$$s on something else or saved it 2024 LAR 1st - Brian Thomas WR, I would have gone away from the Rams pick since we got McDonald in 2023 and we had a desperate need at WR 2025 LAR 1st - Tankathon has a DT/CB/WR at picks 10-12, so plenty of options to go BPA So, while we have done poo, we still would have been better off trading Burns and Moore and select the guys who went right where other teams (who draft better) selected them or went best WR and tried to replace Burns and Moore. I realize that we don’t have the talent to get a lot of picks. We basically fuged ourselves based on the decision of who to trade and when plus Bryce Young. That shouldn’t scare everyone into a what if we lose Chubba for draft picks. Oh no! Chubba is fine but he’s a product of hard nosed running behind a solid OL. 5.2 YPC is nice but there are 12 RBs with 5.0+ YPC and over 300 yards rushing so far. Rushing is up this year, likely because of the efforts of all teams to stop the pass. Anyway, we won’t win by paying Chubba a 2nd contract even if we haven’t seen Brooks yet. We will win when we finally have a competent GM that drafts well and makes good decisions. If we continue to be afraid of losing Diontae and Chubba level talents because we suck at drafting, I can guarantee that we’ll suck for another 7 years.

Chubba was a draft victory as a cheap starter who’s been solid. It still doesn’t change the fact that you don’t sign him to a big deal. CMC worked out for SF as he helped them get to the NFC Championship and SB before getting hurt but Mason has looked solid in his place this year. Miles Sanders has been a complete disaster. Brooks will be fine behind this OL when he’s healthy. I wasn’t a proponent of signing him over a C or CB, but he’s here.

Agreed. I always laugh at people saying don’t trade players for picks. There’s an assumption that Diontae and Chubba want to sign up for another bunch of years here. Reminds me of Andrew Whitworth signing with the Rams and people being mad we didn’t sign him. He wanted to be in LA, which is even more clear now considering his new career. There was likely 0 chance he was even thinking about signing here.

We are 3-21 with Chubba playing well. You can get RBs pretty easily. Look at Mason, Hunt and others filling in well for injured RBs. We took Brooks in the 2nd. Spending money on a second contract for Chubba while we still suck isn’t smart. We’ve continued to spend right up to the came while not getting more than 7 wins for years. That’s why we had to find a trade partner for Burns before we signed the guards. We had zero leverage because we had no cap space, which is truly mind boggling considering we were 2-15. We have to build around Brooks and hopefully get a comp pick or trade Chubba. We can’t sign yet another big deal on a RB.

Unfortunately, I think you are probably right. I didn’t like staying inside when the prior regime included Morgan, not just because of Morgan but because it was so trash that there was no great call that we could even point to and say maybe that was Morgan. Until we get really good drafts where our rookies look like legit stars, we are going to stay in the toilet.

I posted in here the same stuff. His record for the past decade was terrible. I remember saying he’s still Dalton. He was serviceable a long time ago with some prime WRs and a decent team. He’s not anymore. We likely will finish worse than last year after all the “additions” and benching Young. That’s miserable.

We had something else to do at 4 so I didn’t miss or even bother to watch a minute of the game and it felt nice.

Being short isn’t the main problem with him. I’ll be honest that I didn’t really look into QBs in the draft just hoped we’d get the right one. That said, if I knew his arm talent was non-existent, I would have been more disappointed. I was worried about the size but I was more worried that his pro day wasn’t dazzling and he was the only top QB not to throw at the combine. It worried me thinking all he did there was drink gallons of fluids to get measured and then peed for an hour and a half and left. I think Kyler Murray could be a really good QB if he was mentally preparing like top QBs do. All the stories about him not studying, etc. are his downfall. He’s got the arm strength and speed to be a solid QB but he clearly isn’t a top QB because he doesn’t prepare like the top guys do. Young seems to lack in awareness and he’s got none of those athletic skills either.