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Feels like Atlanta and New England. Running game was doing well but this passing every down with Purdy is killing these drives. Gotta know to throw the ball at Jennings feet instead of losing 5 yards on first down.

Well, at halftime of the Super Bowl: Panthers Draft Picks 9 - Moody 4 - All other teams draft picks 0

SMH. People in here are delusional and just bitter babies. He didn’t force a trade and he didn’t sit as a business decision. Rhule and Marty/Fitt made the business decisions to shelve him once our seasons were over. I hope CMC (and Wilks) get rings. They gave their all for the franchise.

Good. I’ll always have Prime and Peacock has nothing. I’m cancelling it as soon as we watch Oppenheimer next weekend.

Had we been halfway smart, we would have traded Burns for the haul and kept Moore and CMC. Add in not drafting the QB who didn’t throw at the combine because he knew he’d look like dogshit and the Burns trade would have been sufficient to draft Stroud and having Moore, Thielen and CMC would have been nice for Stroud. The pieces were all there but we had the world’s stupidest GM who drafts another project WR in the 2nd instead of trying to get a TE in the massively deep TE draft and get a young WR in this deep WR draft. Morgan better get on his horse and draft like a champ so we know he’s not just Fitterer Jr. I don’t want a full decade of being the worst team in the NFL. We got our half-decade run complete already.

If he was involved with our drafting since 2019, I’m glad he’s gone.

Right and that’s why our cap looks so “good” past 2024. It’s basically because we guys we’ve drafted (over our pretty sucky past 3 drafts) and we don’t have a Mahomes or Lamar or Kelce or Hill or anyone at that level signed to a non-rookie deal. We got rid of the only two vets on non-rookie deal that you’d build a team around. That’s why celebrating our 2025/2026 cap space is laughable considering the “talent” level of the guys we currently have signed in 2025/2026. Canales and Morgan have their work cut out for them.

Hah, another post with no real substance after being wrong again. Looking forward to your next post about Rhule!

I really wish people would stop saying we don’t have a cap issue down the road. We literally have no one signed in 2026 outside of guys on rookie contracts unless you count Miles Sanders. That’s right, aside from rookies, we have Miles Sanders signed in 2026. Gee, I wonder why we have almost the entire 2026 salary cap to work with, SMH. Even in 2025, outside of guys on rookie deals (some of whom will suck bad enough to be cut this year), here’s who we have signed on the team in 2025: Sanders, Hurst, Moton, Bozeman, Bell, Thielen and Tuttle Wow, that’s a murderer’s row to build around with all our 2025 cap space. I can’t imagine how scared of us the rest of the NFC is. Couple that fantastic core of vets with the drafting we’ve done the past few years and all the extra draft picks we have in our pockets and I can see why people talk fondly of our cap space. We have the best foundation in the league.

Nope. I don’t. I only care that some people like the OP, oh I mean you can’t help but start anti-Rhule threads. Feel free to point out my I love Rhule threads. Dude, Rhule coached against Purdy. It’s OK that you didn’t know that. It reminds me of Howard Stern’s movie/biography where Stern haters listened longer than Stern fans. I’m not a Rhule fan, just love getting your goat when you try to paint him as “the problem” when your guy Fitt was far worse. Adios!

Lol. You still can’t actually respond when you are clearly wrong. So, Rhule wouldn’t be knowledgeable about Purdy? Love the deflection too. I’m not a Rhule fan, just don’t like how he’s still being used as an excuse for you being a huge Reich and Fitterer fan boy until proven wrong. I won’t reply again on this topic because I again know you won’t actually respond just deflection again and again. @CRA Every time man. Rhule coaches against Purdy twice and Purdy plays well as a freshman/sophomore and pointing that out means I’m a Rhule fan boy not just posting facts.

Yep. Personally, I hope we don’t kick the can down the road. Let’s focus on the draft. Trade anyone we can for picks that isn’t going to be a long term guy or isn’t worth the contract we’d have to pay. Don’t game the cap for a 2024 where we’ll suck anyway. Let’s suck for 2025 draft while trying to get the younger guys better and keep all of our future cap space in tact. Remember pre-2023 we were talking about how huge our 2024 cap space was? 2-15 later and it’s not and we got squadoosh for it. Don’t kick the can so we can bring in more mediocre FAs like Sanders, Hurst and Houston. I’d rather take a chance on UDFAs. Give out top bonuses and see if we can pull another Norwell or Addison.

Between CMC and Wilks, I hope SF wins. Butker’s already got a couple rings!

I hate to agree, but I do. Remember the 3-1 start in 2021 with the close loss to Dallas? That stretch and losing close games to both #1 seeds in 2020 is so much better than anything we saw out of Reich and Fitterer in 2023. Imagine what the scores would have been had we played Baltimore and San Fran this year. That’s how bad Fitterer was. I think there were some people, who won’t be named, that cast Rhule as such a horrible coach/final say guy that they truly believes Fitterer deserved more time and that Reich was a stud. They are still trying to bring Rhule up to make themselves feel better about being so wrong after this year’s apocalypse. I can only hope Canales and Morgan turn things around because there’s only so many Rhule threads that I can take two years after he was fired.

Really? How many games did you watch Purdy play in college? How many games did Voth watch him play in college? How many games did Fitterer watch him play? Rhule had a front row seat to two games where Purdy beat him and almost beat him again with 600 total yards and 4 total TDs. I don’t care about Rhule but you picked one “lie” where it seems like Rhule actually putting him on the draft board make sense. Also, that was the first draft where you ever said that Fitterer got more control as the GM.

Yep. The team we had last year was by far the worst product we’ve ever had. Fitterer/Reich takes the cake and personally, I think Fitterer had more to do with the losing.

It is funny how this thread got started by Rhule’s top fan and yeah, there’s still posts in here trying to blame Rhule instead of Fitterer as if Fitterer wasn’t truly horrible by himself in 2022/2023. Rhule’s 2018 Baylor team was beat 28-14 by a freshman Purdy who had 2 TDs and was even the leading rusher and Rhule’s 2019 Baylor team squeaked out a 23-21 win against Iowa St with a last minute FG after 2 4th quarter passing TDs by Purdy. Yes, Rhule was absolutely a lot more qualified to know about Purdy’s abilities and yes, it’s not out of the question that he would put him on his draft board but that was 2022 when Rhule was clearly relegated to trying to keep his job. I really didn’t like Rhule as a coach and I wanted him gone but it’s laughable how much space he takes up in the mind of some posters in here.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you say that in 2022’s offseason that Fitterer was in control? Purdy got drafted in 2022 and Rhule was forced to hire experienced coordinators before the 2022 draft and he got fired 5 games into 2022 so he was clearly on the hot seat and not in control. Do you really think it’s impossible for Rhule to have been vetoed in the 2022 draft? Heck, he didn’t even say that he would have drafted him just that he wanted to put him on the board. I wasn’t in the room (neither was Voth), so who knows and frankly I don’t care, dude’s in the corn fields now and I really DGAF about Nebraska. Personally, I don’t think Rhule was in charge of the draft in 2022 so I can’t say he’s lying.

I agree with @Mage and it wasn’t just 1 year. It was absolutely clear and reported in here multiple times (by Rhule’s biggest critics) that Fitterer had more control in 2022’s offseason. Rhule was on the hot seat and was forced to hire NFL experienced coordinators and trade ups like Corral in 2022 were literally identical to 2023 with DJ Johnson. Purdy was drafted in 2022 and based on the hot seat (Rhule fired 5 games in)/assertions about more Fitterer control, it’s not surprising to me that Rhule would be overruled. In 2020/2021, it would surprise me but not in 2022. Fitterer’s decision making was atrocious and pretty consistently bad where we got crushed on trades/no-trades in both 2022 and 2023. Also, who cares about Rhule anyway? He’s gone. The guy really got to some people but it’s pretty easy to say that Rhule and Marty had a better draft together than Fitterer and Rhule/Wilks were far more competitive than our disaster of 2023. Doesn’t mean we want them back but given the choice, I’d go Rhule/Hurney over Reich/Fitterer or heck anyone/Fitterer all day long.

You got it. Pair their solid drafts with our awful drafts that were net negatives since we gained basically nothing while losing CMC and Moore, and Stroud is dead on that Houston was a better team. I know they had a bad game against us but they were obviously a better team overall.

It feels like our analytics formulas accidentally flipped the fractions or something like that because we basically did everything wrong.

With a great WR draft and feeling like we don’t even have our future WB in house, it doesn’t make sense. That said, we are down a 1st round pick in what someone on ESPN just said is a super talented draft, so who knows what we’ll do. It does hurt know long we could have had 3 top 33 picks in an epic draft class full of stud WRs, OTs and CBs.

Yep. Also, why are these threads throwing in trading for WRs? This WR draft class is deep. Just like last year, we traded assets instead of building. We should have gone for a great TE last year (in addition to pick 9 - Carter next to Brown SMH) and QB/WR this year but we try quick fixes and fug them up.

Best thing for us is if there somehow are 5 QBs (Nix and Penix) in the first. The WRs in the later 1st to mid 2nd are all over the place depending on who likes who. Harrison Jr, Odunze and Nabers are all looking like top 10ish guys who won’t be close to 33. After that it’s a guessing game until the combine/workouts. Here’s the WRs that I’ve seen in the first in one or more mocks: Coleman, Legette, Taylor and Franklin. Walker, Mitchell, McConkey and Worthy have all been at 33ish in mocks as well. I don’t foresee all 11 going in the top 35, but it’s a deep class.

Neither have I. You are absolutely correct. Think of 30 as a wall. Younger is on the good/right side and older is on the bad/wrong side. I think he’s confusing stuff like when you tell people who turn 35 that you are closer to 40 or on the downslope/downhill to 40.