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No. That was within 5 yards. Press didn’t work there.

Agree 100%. Our drafting has been on the bad side for a while. Between the picks we’ve traded away and the reaches, we haven’t built enough talent to compete perennially yet. Young is a huge key if we do or not, but we have up a lot so we’ll have to overcome that a bit as well. We need some day 2/3 success stories. Easily replaceable starters don’t count. We need to add more above average impact guys.

The point wasn’t all the stars. We gave up 207 yards and 3 TDs to a guy who was having his worst year in the league up to that point because we were missing Horn. We still had Brown, Luvu, Shaq and Burns but just Horn out and the D was terrible. That’s my point about thin. I don’t think there’s a star on the team that we can replace and not have a big drop off where the opponents can take advantage. 49ers lost their starting QB, best WR and a ton of guys on D for many weeks and still had a good enough record to make the playoffs. If the Eagles lost a 10 sack guy last year, they would still have had one of the best DLs for pressuring the QB. Dallas had a backup go 4-1 and Elliott has fallen off a cliff the last 3 years and their 2nd RB has been amazing and they went 12-5. Those are 3 examples off the top of my head where teams had a lot of depth to still pressure the QB without the best pass rusher or had an offense with multiple elite guys. It’s not a bad thing. We finally got our QB and have some young talent but I think we are fooling ourselves to think we’ve got the depth of the other playoff teams. Tampa beat us to win the division and Dallas curb stomped them. Even with Wilks and the running game we were 3-8 against non-NFC South teams and that was with an easy/last place schedule. In the past couple drafts we’ve traded away 7 draft picks and that doesn’t include our 2024 1st and 2025 2nd or the 3rd we used on Corral. I’m glad to have Young but we gave away and entire draft and more of picks including 5 day 1 and day 2 picks. That’s why we are thin right now and aren’t finished with building a perennial contender.

We could finish 7-10 and still be vastly improved. We had a last place schedule in 2022. We play Dallas, Miami and Seattle (instead of Giants, Detroit and Denver) in our 2nd place schedule this year. We were 4-2 in division and 3-8 out of division. If Atlanta and NO seem improved as well, going 3-3 or 4-2 could be playing way better than 2022.

Dear lord. Saleh himself said what I said. I’ll let you win. I did a bad job of describing the ironic link between his cancelling day 2 of joint practices with Tampa (those poor guys) because he saw no benefit in day 2 due to injury risks and his #2 competitor (behind Bills) possibly losing their LT in a joint practice on day 2 of joint practices with Houston. He still needs an MRI but is seems like Armstead may be fine as well, which is great since he’s not a Saint.

Damn, you folks and your aliases are all out right now. I’m so sorry that I found something ironic because we had a big thread on Saleh and joint practices and then a key player on one of his two top rivals goes down in a joint practice the day after everyone was bashing him. Have fun thinking you guys got me on a technicality if that makes you feel better. We all win that way!

Huh? What did I say was wrong? Saleh said why he didn’t like day 2s. I said zero about his commitment because I could care less if he F’d over Tampa. I am glad we are so concerned about Tampa’s plight, lol.

SMH, you can never address people’s post, just condescending replies. Did we get any pressure on the Jets without Burns? How’s we do without Horn against Tampa in our biggest game in years? How do you think our DL would do without Brown? What if Shaq or Luvu go down at LB? Our D can be good if we stay healthy, but he’s correct that we are not deep behind our marquee guys. Please tell us who the depth guys are that could replace the guys I mentioned.

I didn’t need a correction for why he was criticized. IDGAF if Tampa was inconvenienced and that was immaterial to my post anyway. I thought it was ironic/funny that Saleh got blasted a couple days ago and now one of his main competitors may have lost their LT for the season at a joint practice. His reasoning for “being a douche” was the chippiness (potential injuries) on day 2 of joint practices and that was kind of confirmed by Armstead’s injury.

Sucks, but made me chuckle thinking about how Saleh was painted as a douche for joint practice feelings and here the Dolphins OL could be in real trouble again from a joint practice.

I don’t get why KB is blamed for that play when the only blame in the SB was the refs. KB touched the DB and the DB was down as the replay showed. If you watch the play, it was obvious that the DB was down. It was obvious live and there was a ref right there near the end zone with a great view of the play. The play should have been blown dead and the ref let it play out. Interception returns are where QBs and other offensive players can get hurt, like TD getting suspended for his hit on Adams. KB didn’t get Cam hurt. The ref that didn’t blow the whistle on a dangerous play when it was completely obvious that the DB was down caused Cam to get hurt. The review took no time at all and the return was overturned. Same way that our OL missed blocks but they didn’t cause the launches into Cam’s head, the refs that ignored the obvious penalties caused those hits.

I guess it does help if the QB knows exactly where the first rusher is coming every pass play.

You can’t tell me there aren’t street vets out there better than Jordan. It was one thing to get him after Cincy gave up because he was a former day 2 pick and still young but he’s been really bad now for multiple years.

We also had a bunch of pro bowlers in their prime those playoff years. I still can’t believe someone in here would downplay the talent on that 2015 team.

C’mon. Are you serious? Are you actually downplaying the 2015 team? I get being positive but there is a very high possibility that this current team never gets close to that level, period. It’s certainly not a guarantee that Young becomes an MVP and I like him. That was a super team. The 2015 team had prime Cam, Greg, Kalil, Turner, Norwell, Short, Star, Luke, Norman, TD, Luke, Shaq, CJ, Allen, Tillman and others. I mean, it’s one thing to say preseason doesn’t matter and we’ll be fine but actually dissing the 2015 team as if this team is on that level? Crazy.

Yeah, I don’t get the break out calls. He was WR3 his rookie year and got about 50% of the snaps when healthy (he’s missed a few games each year) and he was WR2 last year getting around 80-90% when healthy. Right now, he’s #3 at best with another 2nd round rookie to compete with and Hurst/Sanders who are both better receiving options than last year’s starters. Even with all the snaps last year he didn’t produce that much, especially in the last 6 weeks pushing for the playoffs.

This team is a ways away from the talent from 2013-2017. As Cam and Greg faded and we lost a lot of guys, especially on D, we’ve had a dearth of talent. Just based on having a promising QB and possibly a solid OL, it seems we are more talented than the end of Rivera/Hurney 2.0 and Rhule years. On offense, if Young becomes what we hope that’s the key because our 2020 offense was talented with CMC, DJ, 1000 yard Robby (not sure where his talent went later) and 1000 total yard Samuel. Teddy limited us a bit but the offense in 2020 had skilled talent for that year. The one thing that still frustrates me is the lack of depth. I don’t think we are deep at all. Look at how our secondary fell apart for Mike Evans with the loss of Horn. If Burns or Brown get hurt, our front loses a ton. It’s been frustrating throwing 6 draft picks for Sam, Baker and Corral and then doing a trade up again for reach/project in this draft. We gave up a lot for Young as well and while I’m glad we did it, we are going to need to hit on more picks than we have been to infuse this team with talent. Look at a team like SF last year. They couldn’t overcome getting down to 3rd/4th string QBs but they survived a lot injuries to still make the championship game. We aren’t close to that depth. Our backups are way too far behind our key starters for us to withstand a bad injury year.

Fun fact. Blue is Stetson Bennett’s nephew.

Dude it was a joke based on the hot take reactions of preseason game 1. Also, no chance we miss Rivera either. He had a hella talented squad for several years and fuged it up.

Hot take: Frank Reich will make us miss Matt Rhule.

4 out of 5 starters from last year started the game. Pretty sure none of those 4 missed any training camp/practice time aside from vet rest. They shouldn’t really need time to get up to speed. I’m not worried yet, but that was certainly not good at all. If they were just getting up to speed there wouldn’t be special meetings to discuss how bad it was after a preseason. Doesn’t mean they won’t get there, but even the OL said they played terrible so there’s no need to sugar coat it.

Hmm, weird. Don’t recall CMC in the Super Bowl. Was Purdy starting for the Eagles? Damn, must have missed that trade.

And to think we traded up to get him. What a waste.

When you take Moton off the OL, it starts to look worrisome IMHO. Personally, I think we need to keep drafting IOL in the day 2 area (where the elite C/G prospects are still available) and always use day 3 picks if guys like D. Williams, Norwell, Trey Smith and Mays are available. Don’t just reach on the guys Marty loves because later round OL who surprise seem more common than other positions. Those OL often aren’t straight projects as well.

That 2024 OL scares me a bit outside of Iky. Corbett and Bozeman are decent average starters. If we have bookend tackles they are fine, but I don’t think BC is Moton level and LG is likely still a bit of a hole. If Mays turns into a Norwell, maybe but that OL doesn’t come close to screaming top 10 OL.