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Sorry but you are doing the mental gymnastics. We have already sunk costs on CMC which is why we have all the dead cap. That money was already paid to CMC and is gone and was going to hit our cap no matter if we traded him or not. When we were deciding on trading CMC, what matters? That amount of dead cap couldn’t go away so the only thing that matters was if the “new money” we’d pay CMC plus his actual play on the field was worth more than the draft picks we’d get. My posts have been solely about trade decisions and not worrying about dead cap which has no bearing on it. New money was exactly the same as SF is paying. So again, the choices were: 1) Keep CMC - we’d have to pay him $10M in new cap hit money (same as SF) and we wouldn’t get the mid 2nd round pick value but he would be our starting RB. 2) Trade CMC - we would save the $10M per year in cap space and we would receive mid 2nd round pick value but he would not be our starting RB. We chose #2 and Fitterer fuged it up more because he did poo with the picks and he signed Sanders to an expensive deal. In the end we saved a couple million a year and got far worse RB play from Sanders.

Again, great point that shows how he just didn’t get stuff. SF was 3-4 at the time and the pick looked OK but Fitterer never even thought hey CMC might make them better. SMH, every week our picks dropped more slots. The entire haul was basically worth a mid 2nd round pick. So, no foresight Fitterer traded away CMC for value in between where we took Mingo and Marshall. SMH.

Nope, I know how the cap works. The signing bonus or any other already paid bonus was on our books. The only variable was when that bonus money hit the cap. It cost SF $10M per year. It would have cost us $10M new money (exactly what SF will pay) per year to keep him. At the point where we traded him, it was get mid 2nd round value and save $10M per year on our cap or keep him and pay the extra $10M per year.

People don’t get it. Same people were more than happy to give away CMC for basically a mid 2nd round pick even though he would have only cost us $10M per year. CMC is an MVP level impact to the team for a 3rd of the price for Burns. I understand getting rid of CMC as well because we should have looked ahead and said we want a rookie QB in the 2023 draft so do what you can to get as high a draft slot as possible and get rid of the expensive players who you can get good to great value for because they aren’t going to matter much in 2023-2025. You are building to have the rookie QB at a playoff level in 2026, maybe 2025 if you are lucky. We half assed it and made every wrong decision.

We’re 2-12 dude. If we don’t actually get on with a real rebuild where you trade expensive players for picks to get younger and build up talent at more positions, having Burns on the team won’t make a bit of difference. How many games has Burns truly impacted? Would we be 2-12 without him? Probably. He’s had 1 sack, 4 tackles and 1 TFL in our 2 wins. He’s a good player but he’s not a game changer and we suck balls right now. Trading him now sucks too because he’s lost value over the past year and Washington traded away Sweat and Young for way less.

I agree. I like him and would like to keep him if we were a competitive team. We are 2-12 and frankly have way too little talent. Given our rebuild, signing an edge rusher to $30M a year doesn’t make sense. The bounty we had in front of us was too good to pass up. I went to the game on Sunday and I recall two plays where Burns made a big impact. One was on a pass rush where he caused an incompletion and the other was the fumble recovery but the real impact on the fumble was Hill who knocked the ball out. Brown stood out far more.

Well, when you traded and used 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 2 4ths, 1 5th, 1 6th and DJ Moore just for QBs in 3 years and still have a gaping hole there, it’s hard to have depth. I don’t think there’s ever been a rebuilding team that traded away so much draft capital while rebuilding and turned down 2 trades that would have netted 3 1sts and a 2nd.

I’m so glad we thought through all the future scenarios like Bosa’s deal or what was our limit was BEFORE we decided not to fleece the Rams. Fitterer is truly a joke.

A lot of people were wrong on that. I was wrong on Young because I never realized he didn’t have an NFL arm. I thought height might be an issue but I just wanted a rookie QB/rebuild so bad that I trusted we had QB expertise in Reich and McCown and Caldwell to pick the right one or at least raise the red flags to stop a bad decision. What I wasn’t wrong on was that Fitterer should have been gone with Rhule and that we should have gone full rebuild last year. I wanted full rebuild and no Teddy in 2020, but last year should have been it. We didn’t get enough for CMC but I was OK with it as it would have been 2025/2026 before we were truly competing. Same with DJ, get pick 15 from GB, don’t throw him in on the trade up. Get two firsts and a 2nd for Burns and tank the poo out of the rest of the season. Trade Gilmore, trade anyone not young enough to get a top 3 pick without trade up. Even if we fuged up with Bryce, had we gone full rebuild we’d have had pick 15 and 36 already on the roster from this past draft (might have even had La Porta earlier instead of Mingo) and we’d have pick #1 and the Rams’ first and pick 33 in 2024. In 2025, we’d have two more 1sts and our 2nd. We would have been able to get by the mistake of taking Young without much issue.

One of the most damning pieces of evidence was when Fitterer said this roster was better except for maybe a couple spots. It shows how little clue he has in evaluating talent and that has turned us into the least talented team in the NFL who doesn’t have the number 1 pick and probably number 33 in 2025. Also, the fact that we were the only team to sign a high priced RB FA speaks volumes again on a GM who frankly doesn’t know what he’s doing and is wrong 99% of the time.

Don’t forget that we gave up a good amount more draft pick value (gave early picks got late picks) to get Darnold and Corral and CMC has had a lower cap hit for SF over 2022-2023 than Darnold and Corral did for us. I don’t have access to the Athletic but I hope he mentioned how bad our drafting has been the past 3 drafts, especially considering we traded away a zillion picks for almost nothing.

We had a blast and it wasn’t close to a monsoon as bad as predicted. I’m not going to say I thought Young looked great but we scored and finished out the win and that was fun for my son.

The biggest thing IMHO is eye level not pure height. We know he measured 5’10” but he’s got a large noggin. Look at Hutchinson to Stroud. That’s 4 inches of eye level. The drop from Stroud to Young should be 1 inch more for 5 inches. Young’s eyes are right below Stroud’s Adam’s Apple.

Yep, Tabor should tell Frank what Eddie can do but Frank didn’t run any types of plays to just get closer and kick an easier FG.

That’s probably true of a lot of Ds. We have been decent but I also think we’ve played a non-good offense schedule which has helped. We've only played 3 top 10 offenses and we gave up 37 points per game in those 3 games. Seattle is a bottom 10 offense and we gave up 37 to them and that wasn’t due to an inept offense.

Not sure I’d go that far, but I think they’ve been decent for what they’ve had to deal with this year. The yardage is not surprising. Most teams get out to a lead on us. In this passing league, typically garbage time runs up yardage on good teams Ds. On ours, we haven’t had a single team have to throw the ball a ton against us to get back in the game. That’s why our yards are down and our points against is high. Teams jump to 2-3 score lead and then just stop trying. If Ridder doesn’t throw to Woods and Hill doesn’t make a great hit, Atlanta could have easily gotten 17-21 points. I still think the D kept us in the game and played great but those two red zone turnovers helped immensely.

Doesn’t matter if Tabor said he can make a 59 yarder or not. Reich owns the decision and more importantly should have made some calls to just get closer. I seem to recall that the play calls we made were not of the sort to get us to say a 50 yarder, which is a much more manageable kick.

It’s one thing for the ST coach to say that we can make a 59 yard FG, but it’s another to game plan for a 59 yard FG versus game planning to try to get a much easier FG knowing the worst case scenario you know the limits. Our ST coach should absolutely know and say what the kicker’s limit is that day based on conditions and how the kicker is feeling/practicing.

He’s definitely overrated here. He’s been fine but 3.9 ypc isn’t amazing. He’d be better if we had a passing game but he’s a nugget of silver in a pile of poo. He’s no nugget of gold like CMC but he’s been a bright spot on a terrible offense. He’s still pretty replaceable like Singletary in Houston. Bills got rid of him to let Cook start and he’s been fine in Houston but he’s easily replaced. Swift got dumped by Detroit for Montgomery (dumped by Chicago) and Gibbs and he replaced Sanders with no issues. We just have a GM who legitimately can’t find talent anywhere and there was tons of cheap RB talent available.

I still think he was as good last year as this year. He had 4.9ypc last year, compared to 3.9ypc this year. The difference is that Foreman was actually a decent running mate (4.5ypc) and Foreman was the starter. Once we realized Fitterer made a bad acquisition and made Sanders (3.3 ypc) the backup, Chuba has put up better totals. Basically, Chuba has been Foreman this year and Sanders is 2022 Chuba just way worse. Overall, the running game was more effective last year at 4.6ypc to this year’s 3.9 ypc. Chuba appears better than last year because only he and Thielen have looked like NFL level starters this year. Sanders, TEs, Young and the other WRs have looked like backups for any competent offense. Heck, the OL was much better last year too.

And our best FA was Reddick from Rhule’s Temple days. Makes you realize how bad Fitterer really is.

I see your point on the botched snap. That used to be the MO to kick it early just in case, but you don’t see that anymore. I wonder if the % is just so low now. Maybe the chance of a botched snap that causes a miss at such short range is lower than a Hail Mary or kick return for a TD or a defensive penalty. As long as the holder catches it, any kick will be good from that distance, even hooks and slices.

Top one was 3 seconds left in the 1st quarter and bottom was the game winning kick. It was absolutely very empty. The upper level was much more sparse but even the lower level was maybe 20-25% full, if that.

I paid 60 a piece to be 10 rows off the field with my son. We had a great time. The weather wasn’t bad at all. Constant, but pretty light ran. Ponchos from Amazon worked like a charm and we both wore a pair of waterproof boots that my middle son had for work and school. We didn’t even get cold until right at the end because the hands were out of the ponchos the entire last drive. We are 1-0 in person this season, so got that going for us. Other bonus was that we had our own area to ourselves. We stood the entire game with no one complaining behind us or blocking our view in front. Honestly might have been better to watch than a full house.

No, the FG was the right call. The conditions were fine. The wet ball would actually be more conducive to a fumble or a botched snap (Atlanta had that happen twice, but recovered both). A 20 yard FG is about as easy as it gets. The K doesn’t even need a full run up so no chance to get it blocked. Once Chubba got the second 1st down up close, kneeling down was 100% the correct move. The OP is completely wrong. Atlanta at that point had 0 timeouts and we could end the game on a 20 yard attempt. If Chubba scores, Atlanta had 1.5 minutes left to get a TD, which isn’t impossible. I remember telling my son that we had a great opportunity to get a first down at the 5 and seal the win with Atlanta not touching the ball. Tabor made 100% the correct call to give us the easiest chance to win and also keep the ball out of Atlanta’s hands. That 20 yard FG is way, way, way easier than a 1 yard TD run.