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Eh, don’t want to mention it as Brown has been solid but if we truly wanted him, we could have easily traded up for Herbert who went 1 pick before Brown. The Giants (at 5) and Lions (at 3) said their picks were available for trade and I don’t think it would have cost much, especially compared to the load we handed to the Bears. Don’t want to be a huge downer, but even when we get something right it’s not always the thing that would have been the best. I’m happy to extend Brown, but he might be done with his second deal by the time we finally find out franchise QB.

Not surprising in here. I remember Teddy predictions of 4000 and 30TDs, SMH. Heck, people were calling for TMJ to be putting up 1000+ DJ numbers after his incredible 290 yards and a 1 garbage time TD. As much as some people think we are too harsh on players in here, the truth is that we way overestimate our talent levels most times, especially for guys who haven’t yet proven it here like recent draft picks.

I’d love to see a miracle as well, but I just don’t see it happening. Same with Iky. Too many plays where they look like they don’t belong and it’s not something easily fixed.

Sorry, but yes, they can see more lanes and over OL. Picture a 6’5” OL. When he is engaged with a defender, maybe you can’t see over their heads but the shoulders are 3 times the width of the head so I do think they would get better views even with OL partially blocking them. I’ll also point to the first game when Young threw right at Bates. I can remember which of the two it was but from the replay it sure seemed like Bozeman and the DT where right in the path and Young didn’t see Bates at all. How many sacks did we have because Young had no chance to find an alternate target? I’m not sure I would call it as big an issue as arm strength but not having clean ass Bama pockets made his lack of vision a bigger issue than college. His off platform plays were supposed to be a big strength but we barely saw any of that.

I’ll again throw out that I’m really hoping for WR/CB at 33/65 because I think we have better chances of getting legit above average starters or better. I just don’t see Bozeman, BC and Corbett as above average starters. The only spots where I’d say we are above average are Moton, Brown and Burns. You could argue for Luvu and maybe Shaq (if healthy) but I would put them as average starters. I can’t put Horn in the top tier because honestly, we really don’t know how good he is. All our other starters are easily replaced.

If we pick a C/G at 33, they will either be a starter or we again fuged up a pick. If we make a good C/G pick at 33, that player will be the best IOL we have on the team. I’ll even go a step further and say that if we make a good pick at 65 on an IOL, I would expect him to start as well. BC, Corbett and Bozeman are not that talented, period. A C/G picked at 33 or 65 that is an actual “good pick” is more talented. I don’t have faith in our picking right now as we picked TMJ over Humphrey and a long snapper over Tre Smith and Mingo over Dell, etc.

I hate to use this picture again but Brees’ eye-line is almost the same as Stroud and well above Young. The Brees comparison was just trying to link Young to a HOF level player to justify the height concerns. It’s funny that this never came up before the draft because Young’s eye-line height should have been way more concerning. I don’t care where the top of his head is because it’s his eyes that matter and I remember Bree’s saying he used to tilt his head up so he could see more.

Also, BC and Corbett are signed through 2024 and Bozeman is easily released after 2024 with only a $1.6M dead cap. None of them have shown the health or talent level to want to sign them long term. Again, we are in bad shape talent wise.

Some good players will slip so we won’t know until the 1st round is done, but I do agree that I don’t see that marquee OL dropping. I just think when people look at potential picks at 33, 65 and 101 and talk about OL and depth, that worries me. We should be drafting BPA and legitimately be going for starters. Yes, they don’t all work out but we’ve got no position that can’t be upgraded. This is a deep OT draft and if one of the really top guys is there and BPA, I would be hard pressed to pass and move Iky inside. We are just legit bad right now and we need upgrades at almost every position.

Honestly, I don’t want depth at OL as much as starter upgrades. Our OL was not good and they don’t appear to be getting healthier or better. If we draft IOL in the 3rd/4th, they better not be just depth. They better be starting or else we didn’t really improve. Personally, I’m not a fan of this draft. Washington hasn’t been near 33 in anything I’ve looked at so far. At 33, in this deep of a class, I’d be hoping for a potential DJ Moore replacement.

If we take the top IOL at 33, he damn well better beat someone out. That Powers guy from Oregon would be a great pick at 33. Our OL is not that talented. We had some great rushing games last year and that really made it seem like we solved out OL issues but how many teams would be knocking down our door to get Iky, BC, Bozeman and Corbett?

Kittle is a great example. He went in the 5th round but he was in a deep TE class like last year. Last year we should have taken a swing at a TE, not Hurst. Kittle went late but that year had 5 TEs in the first 45 picks. This draft is not like that. Even Kelce’s draft was deeper than this year. Ertz and Eifert went before Kelce and Reed went same round. If it weren’t for injuries, that would have been a solid TE draft. Eifert and Reed had talent but missed tons of games.

The one bonus is that this draft is deep at WR so if we take the right one (not TMJ or Mingo), we would be drafting a WR at 33 who in other years would be taken 15-20. That’s the point of BPA and drafting to the strengths of the draft. Over time, you should have an above average talented roster. We on the other hand have been living in reach city with picks at weaker positions since 2018 and we witnessed where that has gotten us.

To answer the thread question, it needs to be BPA for every pick in this draft and the next two. We are so far away talent wise it isn’t funny. We were a couple plays away from the first 0-17 team. Also, as a reply here, I don’t understand why TE keeps coming up. If we go TE at 33 or any pick, we are reaching or likely reaching. This is an awful TE draft class compared to last year. This is a deep WR class. If we go TE, it most likely means Fitterer hasn’t left the building. Unless we draft TE2 on day 3, we didn’t go BPA.

No you wouldn’t. You’d be a terrible agent if you let a top pick expose any issues. Young’s agent did everything correctly because he was pretty much the consensus number 1 pick. Stroud had the rumors to quell so performing at the combine was smart as well. If you had Young as a client and let him throw next to the other 3 (who threw because they absolutely were competing), you would have exposed him. Just because we fuged up doesn’t mean Young’s agent did anything wrong.

I still am amazed that people think Nicole made this pick, SMH. The proof is always the one picture of her hugging Bryce. They completely ignore the fact that she obviously got close to Stroud enough that he was even quoted calling her Mama Tepp. You are correct. Fitterer said Young was his top QB the year before and basically said he never changed. We also had multiple reports that Fitt and Reich had a love in where they told each other who they liked best before the process and after and they both agreed on Young. Ignoring the fact that there were articles about us loving every prospect, I’m still shocked that with Fitterer saying he was on Young way early and the hundreds of years of NFL QB/coaching experience that people think Tepper and his wife overruled everyone. We fuged up, simple as that and if our vet coaches let Nicole Tepper make the decision, that’s a bunch of scared ball less boys and we needed a change. Let’s hope Morgan and Canales aren’t more of the same.

Don’t worry boys, we took care of that temptation all together this year. We will not mess up a high pick on a QB, guaranteed. Man, I feel way better knowing we won’t screw up again!

So, if the offense can’t be fixed with Young, WTF are we wasting resources on Chris Jones? When we finally have a good QB, Jones will be in the bigger cap charges (we’d backload it in order to sign DB and Burns) and he will likely be trending down. Also, LOL at Chris Jones making us the best D in the league. We were in the bottom 5 of the league in scoring D. Sure, we did great against Ridder, but against competent non-rookie QB offenses we gave up 187 points in 6 games (31 ppg), all losses. Jones is basically getting us to 5 wins next year and maybe 6 or 7 in 2025 before Jones’s contract is now an anchor and our offense still sucks. These half assed rebuilds are why we are where we are right now. Fitterer sucked and it probably didn’t matter but we spent a ton of cap and traded a ton of picks to stay in that 5-7 win range for 5 years before trading for Young officially tanked us. Signing Chris Jones while you admit Young isn’t that guy so we won’t be competitive until 2026 at the earliest is asinine.

I still wonder why this never seems to make sense. There’s no magic. We have no Mahomes or any other expensive star and yet we were close to the cap signing Sanders, Bell, Hurst, Bozeman and Thielen. The point of playing with the cap is to roll over extra and not waste it when you aren’t competitive. Then we could splurge on actual “top” FAs in 2-3 years when we have an actual shot.

TE was last year. If we take a TE early we are likely reaching and we don’t have the draft picks to waste. CB and WR are the deepest parts of the draft. OT as well so maybe some drop.

Romo is terrible. Talking about 7 games in a row without an interception after he thought if Mahomes threw it deep it would be picked off. Majomes got an interception earlier in a game. SMH. He’s been wrong many times today.

Stupid. It’s reminiscent of Atlanta/New England. They are putting it on Purdy and he’s not the guy.

It wasn’t a muff the ball hit another player first.

It hit off another player. McCloud did the right thing except that he should have fallen on the ball instead of trying to pick it up.

SF is going to lose this game. Their offense has been 95% pass and nothing has been close to complete this half. At some point the Mahomes >>>>> Purdy factor will take over. 49ers D has been amazing (KC as well) but it seems. Welp there it is.