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I forgot about Mays, but suffice it to say Seattle invested in their OL and it paid off with 4 starters on rookie deals. Spending a 1st on a desperate need and 2 day 3 picks in 4 drafts is why we had to pay a ton and still be paper thin to injuries and potential FA loss.

They also have a stud LT and have drafted 10 OL in the past 4 drafts. We drafted Iky and Zavala. They drafted two 1st rounders, both of whom were foundational starters on the SB winning team. It doesn’t matter how much you spend if you drafted 4 starting OL on your SB winning team in 4 drafts. We had to pay a ton for our OL because instead of drafted 2.5 OL every year including half your 1st round picks, we decided Iky and Zavala in 4 drafts was enough investment.

I don’t recall him saying that. I do recall when he was a rookie/2nd year that he said he was working to know the entire OL. That said, that was a long time ago and at this point, moving him around seems counterproductive. It’s not 2018 or 2019 when it seemed to make sense and he played well at LT when he had to do so due to injuries. This is Moton’s 10th year, no point. We need to draft multiple tackles at this point with no idea how Iky comes back in 2027.

I think it’s more by design. Run first offenses likely block more at TE but right now the WRs we have are just better than our TEs. Kmet is not Olsen, so he’d more than likely just slide into the targets we already don’t have much of right now. Young threw for 3011 yards. While it was 21st, it was dead last among players that started all year. The guys behind him are rookies who didn’t start all year or guys who were injured or guys who took over for an injured starter. When your team throws it less than any other team, Kmet is a waste of time and money unless he’s an amazing blocker. Tmac and Coker should dominate targets and XL/TEs/RBs split up the rest. We shouldn’t spend a high pick on a TE or spend a lot of FA $$$s.

Yep. Pisses me off knowing in 3 years we’ve drafted Zavala and nothing else. Go back 6 years and Iky is the main draft capital with BC, Zavala and fat Deonte Brown, who also was drafted before Trey Smith. There were dozens of OL we discussed in here and wanted to draft and our GMs did nothing and now that one key injury means we are now in trouble at C and both T spots.

Tremble is in an offense that doesn’t run a ton of TE routes and frankly doesn’t throw the ball much. What I was trying to show is that Kmet only has better stats because he has 399 targets to 168 targets for Tremble. There’s a reason why Loveland was drafted and took over as the starter. Kmet is just a guy and isn’t much more productive per target than Tremble. He doesn’t improve us if he comes here and is barely noticeable only getting 40-50 targets. Do you think he’ll get more targets than our WRs in a run first offense? Can he even run block well?

No he’s not. Look at this actual production. Is he getting anywhere near 90 targets with us? Kmet’s career is 288-2939 and 21 TDs on 399 targets. Tremble (the definition of meh) has 112-1031 and 11 TDs on 168 targets. Prorated to 399 targets, Tremble has 266-2448 and 26 TDs. Kmet isn’t making us much better at all. We just don’t use TEs that much and we don’t throw the ball overall as much. Kmet isn’t Greg Olsen.

Why? Feels like we got a whole TE crew of almost Kmets. Loveland surpassed Kmet easy and relegated Kmet to Tremble like stats. Kmet’s decent years were because of volume. Kmet had over 90 targets twice in his career. Tremble’s career high in targets is 37. Tremble could produce Kmet numbers with the same volume so why would you ever go for Kmet? Loveland or Bowers type studs, go for it. Meh TEs, we’ve got plenty.

It’s a stupid weird stat. Here’s some of the stuff that messes up: 1. It ignores the 3 SBs won since 2000 by QBs drafted before 2000. It also ignores the 8 SBs won by 1st rounders drafted outside the top 5. That’s 42% of the SB winners right there. 2. As you mentioned, the SB winner clause removes 8 top 5 lost SBs and 5 1st rounders drafted outside losses, which is 50% of all SBs since 2000. 3. You also have the SB for Nick Foles that absolutely gets and asterisk because top a top 5 Eagles draft pick was an MVP candidate at 11-2 with 33TDs. If Wentz doesn’t have that amazing season, the Eagles aren’t the #1 seed. It’s like the Hostetler SB win that ignores what Simms did. Foles doesn’t win that SB if he played the entire year. 4. Tom Brady won 23% of the SBs by himself and lost 3 of the 26. He’s the exception that proves the rule. The funny part is that outside of Brady, the list of SB winners and losers is basically 1st round QBs, including some traded guys.

No kidding. 3 drafts and the only OL drafted was Zavala. We’ve drafted 8 WR/TE/RBs in the same 3 drafts and only 1 of the 8 has been an impact starter.

Yep, came a few years after we wasted a pick on a K, who’s been a stud in KC, to “not” replace a very expensive K, that we got rid of anyway, only to finally get another K as an UDFA 8 years later. We don’t learn that fast. Heck, Zavala is the only OL we’ve drafted in 3 years and that’s why the OL isn’t as solid anymore and one bad injury and we’re right back at the beginning.

People say that every time.

Sorry guys, we see these all the time and almost every time nothing happens in terms of actual jail time. Maybe a suspension, but he’ll play again.

He and his agent know we aren’t giving him big money now and there’s nothing to really negotiate as an ERFA and RFA the next two years. It’s on Coker to stay healthy and be someone we extend in 2027. The extension years will really start in 2028 but he’ll get bonus when he signs. He could also play the RFA year out fully and hit the market as an UFA in 2028. Panthers will still get cheap year in 2027 even with extension.

SMH. He’s basically under a 2 year fixed deal with us. The only way out of that is if another team gives us a 1st round pick in 2027. There is absolutely no rush needed. Wait till 2027, tag him as a RFA and then give him an extension for 2028+ if he’s still worth it.