Mr Mojo Risin

So they took their LBers out of the game to add more DBs. Wouldn't that single they are not afraid of the running game since that is where LBers have most of their impact? Putting more DBs in the game would signal they are afraid of the pass and are daring us to run the ball. Now if they crowded the LoS with nothing but Dlineman and LBers to stop the run and left the CBs in press man across the board with no saftey help or a single high, then that would signal that they do not respect our passing game and are selling out to stop the run. The situation you described is the complete opposite of that.

Wow a lot of big brains in this thread with some very definitive statements. Just think so far in your lifetime every single choice you have made has lead you to poo posting on a 1-11 football team's message board. Ya'll aren't as bright as you think you are and that is a fact. The all knowing voices of the Carolina Huddle. Lol. At this point I hope Bryce is the starter for the next 10 years maybe it will get some of you clowns to finally abandon ship

More exaggeration. Doesn't need to be league best. No where has anyone said something that stupid. He needs better than the worst collection of oline/rb/te/wr talent in the league. Period.

Thinking teams remain the same from year to year and thinking prior year records are some sort of indictment on the current year is actually the comedy part. It just shows you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to this sport. Every team starts completely over in the offseason. Especially teams that change their entire coaching staff. The personnel change, the players change. Injuries. There are so many different factors that weigh on a team from year to year. Look at the 2015 Panthers. They went 15-1 to 6-10 the following year. First team in NFL History to go 15-1 and miss the playoffs the following year. What's your explanation for that? By your logic they should have went undefeated or at the very least secured double digit wins. Would love to hear an explanation

Pretty sure he made a similar pass to Thielen after spinning out of a sack but it was to the opposite side of the field. Grasping at straws trying to find anything to throw shade on our QB. I think it's time for some of yall to finally go root for a new team because garbage takes like this are getting really really old. https://youtube.com/shorts/uZOESVlpNdk?si=ksAtrj9iz9itpAi1 Only difference is the college WR actually had separation for his QB to throw the ball. Thielen had 0 separation and Bryce still threw a dot. Similar route both are running to the corner pylon Penix had about 37 air yards compared to Bryce's 35.

I'm still waiting. Since, you know, elite QBs are supposed to "lift" the talent around them there should be plenty of examples of good/great QBs doing just that. Bottom 3 offensive line, bottom 3 receiving core, HC that just got canned. Yet still produced pro bowl numbers and a top 20 offense? Who? Which QB had a complete s*** show going on around them yet still produced. I'm dieing to know some of these guys but no one has been able to produce any names

Pressured on 24% of dropbacks Nowhere to go with the ball on 33% of dropbacks And you guys expect him to put up probowl numbers week in and week out because he was a #1 overall pick? The logic just doesn't make sense

Which QB in NFL History had a successful season with an offense on par or worse than what Young is currently playing with? Care to list some examples because I'm genuinely curious

-31st ranked offensive line -29th ranked receiving core -7th most QB under pressure -Old and outdated offensive scheme -First HC in NFL History with back to back midseason firings -OC that has never called plays in the NFL before Huddle: OUR QB SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HES SHORT AND HAS A NOODLE ARM!!!!!!! Must be something in the water down there in Carolina because that is one backward ass thought process.

Yea almost like NFL teams gave us the blueprint on how to have your young QB be successful early on in their career. The Texans followed that blueprint. The Panthers did the complete opposite. They gutted their offense. Can you imagine what DJ Moore and CMC could be doing for Young right now? I'm sure Frank would still have a job but that's beside the point. Most QBs need weapons to be successful. That's why 95% of teams do everything they can to surround their QB with as much talent and firepower as possible. Except the Carolina Panthers.

Trevor definitely does deserve credit. He didn't achieve those numbers by mistake he put in a lot of effort and I'm sure he studied film. But it just goes to show that even generational can't miss prospects like Lawrence need some sort of help in the NFL and can't get by on just talent and name alone. That sentiment echoes even louder for Bryce Young because he has even more to overcome

The only reason I bring up Lawrence is because its a lot similar of a comparison than Joe Burrow (curious why he chose to use Burrow as his example as well). Lawrence had Chark and Shenault as WRs that year (chark only played 4 games, laviska all 16) Lawrence threw 12 TDs to 17 INTs has a YPA of 6.0 and a QBR of 71.9. Young has a 5.4 YPA and a 74.9 QBR. Both had dysfunctional coaches for very different reasons but both were fired during the season. Reich after 11 games, Meyer after 13. With a new outlook and solid HC hire in Doug Pederson Lawrence was able to have a very good year 2 under Pederson and Co. Why is it such an asinine thought on this board that our rookie QB could be better with a better staff that actually knows what the fug is going on and isn't living on a name that they made for themselves 5-10+ years ago? The Jags retooled their offense and brought in legit talent surrounding their young QB with young playmakers and he improved. However, I'm sure the coaching changes and personnel had very very little to do with Trevor Lawrence's big turn around in year 2 and the only reason he improved was because he's 6'6 220 pounds with a laser rocket arm. /sarcasm /huddlelogic2023

And Trevor Lawrence's rookie year?

Just best to ignore whatever that guy says. If he's not Carolina-chuck then he's a close relative or at the very least, his next door neighbor

Absolutely well said.

Exactly I'm so done with coaches that are stoic and look they have no fire in them after a s*** call. We need someone with some passion left for the game. Not these old worn out dinosaurs. Need someone to light a fire under someone's a**. I thought Duce Staley would be that for Reich but that was a flop. Rivera seemed pretty passionate behind closed doors but his sideline demeanor was always that of someone who didn't know what the fug was going on in the actual game. Rhule was meh and Reich was more of the same. We desperately need a changing of the guard and with Tepper I'm not sure that's going to happen but we'll see. He at least made the right decision to fire Reich 11 games in even though it would reflect poorly it showed he's somewhat willing to swallow his pride to do whatever it takes. He just hasn't made the right decisions unfortunately.

Whats even more entertaining is you closet Texans fans thinking drafting Stroud #1 overall would have made any difference with where we're at right now. We'd still have the worst collection of talent on the offensive side of the ball in the entire NFL with a rookie QB and a clueless HC. But please, go on, continue to think Stroud would be the only reason Frank Reich would still be employed by the Panthers. Anymore jokes you got for us today?

And by no means are any of those "dudes" responsible for the 185 yards a game and the reason we can't score more than 1 touchdown, its ALL on the QB right? Coaching doesn't matter, scheme doesn't matter, personnel doesn't matter, getting open doesn't matter, blocking for more than half a second doesn't matter, being able to run the ball effectively doesn't matter, literally NONE of that matters only that the QB is effective no matter what else is going on around him. Got it, Thanks for clearing all of that up

Part of the reason Thielen said he signed with us was because they had some sort of golfing simulator in the locker room lol

Cam had the benefit of playing in a system that utilized his talents with the Chudz offense. He then spent the rest of his career overcoming Shula ball but yea. It's been clear since the preseason Reichs offensive vision didn't take advantage of what Young excelled at in college. Will be interesting to see who we choose next. I'm hoping it's Harbaugh personally but thats probably a long shot

Dalton would be on IR if he took even half of the shots Young has taken. Talk poo about the dudes size all you want but he is as tough as they come

It was definitely apart of it. Trevor Lawrence was more hyped than Bryce coming out of college and had a not so great rookie year

Exactly. Who knows which decisions were actually Fitt and not Tepper pulling the strings telling him what to do or say

You have to surround your QB with good players though. EVERY team does it but the Carolina Panthers. What QB has a worse collection of talent than Bryce Young in the NFL? There are college teams that have better talent than we do currently.

Honestly this is the best thing for Bryce if he's going to succeed in the NFL at all. Gotta find someone that can fix this offense