Mr Mojo Risin

Same.

Unfortunately every fanbase has a bunch of mrcompletely11's running around. There's not much you can do but laugh at them

I understand believe me. Being 0-5 through the first 5 weeks is not a good look no matter who the coach is. I really do think they need more time though. If Rhule got to year 3 I think Reich certainly makes it to year 2 but beyond that will be a question to how we end this year and start next year. If we come out winless through this first few weeks next year I will be fully on board for a reset and I don't think anyone in the NFL would blame us. I just don't see any major changes happening this season. I could be wrong though we'll just have to see

Unfortunately these aren't "real jobs" we are talking about here. The owners invest MILLIONS into these guys. They aren't going to give up on them through 5 weeks into the regular season in their first year no matter how emotional this fan base gets. No one is going to want to come coach here and no free agent is going to sign here if that's how you choose to run your team. Give them time to figure it out that is literally the only option.

So we hire a new coach and GM come out and lose 2 or 3 games to start the season next year what do you do? Fire them as well? Keep firing coaches until one finally has a hot start? I don't think moving on from Reich or even Fitt this season is a realistic option. Next season though? And we still look like this? Absolutely.

4* games

I see a lot of Clausen comparisons from posters yet I've never seen Clausen have that type of game against ANY defense prevent or not. So which is it? Is he a Clausen clone or a garbage time stat padder? He can't be both. Today was a rough day for most of it. Those interceptions sucked. They were pretty terrible decisions no ifs ands or buts about it. I expect to see some of those kind of plays time to time from our rookie QB. But to the people complaining about garbage time stats you wouldn't waste anytime flaming Bryce if he threw more INTs and had multiple 3 and outs during "garbage time" in today's game so your opinions are exactly that, garbage. I give credit to Bryce for continuing to battle through adversity even when the game isn't close. Hopefully this will give him something to build off of in future weeks.

Honestly he's been the most disappointing player so far on the team. I get our oline hasn't been very good but the dude doesn't see the gapping holes even when they are there. Rarely do I see him break a tackle and he just doesn't have any explosiveness. The difference between him Laviska and even Chubba at this point is night an day. That's a pretty big miss for us.

I dont think it's any indictment on Bryce (not saying you said it was) but overall I agree with this. I was pretty disheartened with how much our young offense got to play in the preseason. Definitely felt like they approached that wrong. Feels like they over shot themselves on how good we were supposed to be this year with our rookie qb versus accepting reality and making sure we bring our rookie along by any means necessary. Meaning playing meaningful snaps in all 3 preseason games which didn't happen. If they wanted to "hide our scehemes" so we could win more games then they should have sat Bryce for Dalton.

Bryce needs time in the NFL. He is praised for his brain and being super smart. That means he has the ability to learn. And with that ability I believe he will one day be a pretty good QB for us. Maybe not tomorrow or next week but eventually he will figure it out he just needs time. He wasn't blessed with ultra athletic ability or prototypical NFL height and weight or a rocket arm. He has the ability to process information and learn and that's exactly what he's doing. He's completed 20+ passes 3 games in a row. Yes they have been shorter throws and he hasn't taken a ton of risks and he probably isn't going too. They are trying to be smart with the football and minimize mistakes/turnovers. Part of that will be less shots taken and missed opportunities down field. You can argue that's the wrong approach and they need to at least try and open things up but for whatever reason they felt this was what gave them the best opportunity to win. I'm telling you guys I know it sucks to have to be patient but these guys just need time together on the field. It's not always going to be pretty we just have to hope Bryce is able to learn, grow, and develop his game through out this season.

Regardless of what they said unless everything aligned perfectly we weren't going to the playoffs this year. Not with the injuries we've had to key players. I forget what game it was but our oline last year came along very slowly. It wasn't until Bozeman got to play that our line finally started to click. I imagine once Corbett comes back from injury the line play should improve, hopefully drastically. Listen, the jury is still out on Bryce. No I am not 100% sold he is going to be able to be the franchise Qb we need him to be and worthy of all the assets we gave up to get him, however expecting him to make gourmet food with dog poo ingredients is a bit unreasonable. If he continues to miss throws deep from a clean pocket and continues turning the ball over I will be right there with you guys asking for some sort of change. But not yet. It's way too early and with the way this oline, rbs, and wrs have performed so far he has yet to have a real chance to lead this team. It sucks to be staring down the barrel of another wasted season. But you can't blame Reich and Young for what previous teams did or did not do. That's not fair to them they should have a clean slate. If losing this year while taking our lumps and going through the growing pains of being a young team is what's needed for future success then so be it. But I would wager once our oline gets its poo together Bryce will be able to show what he's capable of and then we will learn if we have a gamer at Qb or Pickles 2.0. Too soon to tell though.

Yea it's funny to me people want to put all the offenses issues on our rookie QB. No run game, oline having issues protecting, wrs not getting consistent separation, and of course the rookie mistakes that Bryce makes. And every mistake he makes is magnified times 10 and exaggerated by people on this board who I thought had a good football acumen. But that's what happens when people get blinded by emotion it is what it is.

I'd wager Bryce isn't playing like poo. Sure he's missed some throws but he's working with what he's got which isn't much. What I listed weren't excuses those are what we call "facts." Fact #1. Our oline has been atrocious. Both in the run game and pass game. This is indisputable. Fact #2. Our running has been atrocious. Kind of falls in line with Fact #1 but this is also indisputable. Fact #3. Our WRs are struggling to get separation "moreso in the first 2 weeks, the last 2 weeks have been better but not by much" This is also indisputable. By ignoring the top 3 conditions in which we are forcing our rookie QB to play into it just shows how much of a couch potato you actually are but I wouldn't expect anything less from a casual fan who doesn't understand what's really happening on the football field.

There are plenty of examples of good QBs struggling early in their career. Some were fortunate to not have to play at all. Cam has the NFL record for yards thrown through the first 5 weeks of an NFL season. That was set back in 2011. Not every QB is going to come in and light it up their rookie year. Every situation is different. The Panthers have been an awful team for awhile now. One offseason more than likely isn't going to be enough to turn things around yet. Everyone wants to win now. Everyone wants to see Bryce put up a bunch of yards and TDs. That just isn't us right now. We have to get the oline fixed first before we can do anything as an offense. We have no running game which is a young QBs best friend. We are giving up QB pressures at an alarming rate. People want to overlook these things and pile on our rookie QB as if these things are his fault when they aren't. And to top it off his WRs have been having trouble getting separation. The last 2 games have been better, but the first two games Young literally had nowhere to go with the ball in 1 out of 3 drop backs. That's incredibly bad and no QB is going to thrive in those situations. We are a very young football team. We have a ton of experience on this staff. They need more time to figure things out. Hopefully after the bye week we start looking more improved but I wouldn't expect it to happen over night

Writing off rookies 4 weeks into the season....sheesh. You guys are really losing your marbles around this place

He's played 3 games and has been under pressure at a historic rate and you want him to go out there and throw for 350 yards a game lol...its unrealistic expectations at this current point in time for our offense, but I know I'm just preaching to the choir at this point.

How many years did we have DJ Moore on this team? How many games did we win? Doesn't matter if you don't have a QB that can get him the ball consistently.

NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are aboslutely NO EXCUSES for our #1 pick QB to not be throwing for a MINIMUM 300 YPG and NO LESS than 2 40+ yard passes PER GAME! Even though there are COUNTLESS examples of young QBs struggling in the NFL OUR QB has to perform at no less than a pro bowl level through the first 4 games of the season or else he is a bust and the HC should be fired!!!!!!!! NO EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry just trying to fit in with all the other brain deads on this forum

How is comparing Bryce's rookie year to Trevor's ROOKIE year where he had similar weapons and a bad scheme a bad thing to do? Because Bryce is shorter? That makes absolutely no sense

Trevor had James Robinson who ran for over 1,000 yards the year prior and averaged 4.6 YPC Trevors rookie year. He didn't have a 33 year old Theilen he had Marvin Jones Jr., Chark, and Shenault. There is no way you can sit there and argue Trevor had less to work with than Bryce does currently. Trevor didn't have an OG that gave up 28 pressures in 2 weeks either. So the only reason Trevor was able to overcome the challenges of his rookie year is because he's 6' 5 220 pounds? How many 6'5+ QBs have busted out of the NFL over the years? No two situations in the NFL will EVER be identical. This comparison is to show you people that just because a highly drafted QB struggles his rookie year does not mean he is automatically a bust. Sometimes it takes time to develop. It takes time for the TEAM to develop around him. This isn't the only comparison that I can make it was just the most logical because of how similar the situations are for these two QBs in their rookie years.

Trevor had Chark, Shenault and a bad Oline. Sound familiar? And as Trevor's environment improved from year 1 to year 2, he improved. Why can't the same be said for Bryce?

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said? So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently). Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

His OG got beaten 19 straight times. Kind of hard to throw down field when you have INTERIOR pressure almost every drop back

There was most definitely questions surrounding whether he was going to translate into a good QB or not. He had a pretty rough rookie season going 3-14. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4360310/type/nfl/year/2021 He had multiple games without a passing TD, a sub 60% completion % and 17 INTs to 12 TDs. The questions were definitely there. You don't have to have world class measurables to be a good QB in the NFL. Most guys just need time. In fact, I would say the majority of the NFL starters in today's NFL either had rough/incomplete rookie campaigns or sat for a year or more. Sure it sucks being in another "wasted" year where we'd probably be picking in the top 10 again if we had a 1st round pick. The fans have a right to be upset after what was seemingly promised a "playoff" season in year one but thats not how its worked out this far. Do we give up now after all the work that has been put in? I don't think so. I think we continue building this team and see what happens and hopefully they end up turning the corner. I truly believe that they will.

There were plenty of people who thought he was going to be a bust after his rookie year.