Mr Mojo Risin

Yea I'm over it and ready to move on. 2.5 seasons is plenty of time and Bryce only seems to have regressed as the talent around him has gotten better. Just have to hope Tepper lets DC bring in legitimate competition for QB1 next year and not the corpse of old man Andy Dalton. I have a feeling Evero will probably be the scape goat and Canales should probably get a chance to hand pick his DC and QB going into next year. But I'd almost be alright with a full on reset as well. Idk I'm just tired of watching Bryce Young and Andy Dalton play football to be honest.

With the teams we have left to play its about to get ugly real fast. Today was a big game for Bryce in my eyes. It was his chance to have at least a solid game against a bad football team and keep the good vibes going into the Falcons game next week. All he did was prove what we already knew. He cannot be relied on to win football games. We might not win another game this season. Today was really fuging awful

Bryce HAS to show something here...my god at some point you have to be able to make some fuging plays

Going to need to be able to throw for more than 150 yards today...at this point it is pretty ridiculous we can't execute the simplest of plays from the pocket.

No clue how that isn't OPI. If the WR fell down in that situation it is 100000000% DPI

We're about 15th/16th overall in terms of player age and only have 11 players over the age of 29...Not too bad and I was more talking about this incarnation of the team is young. Canales is only 2 years in as a HC and we have young talent to build around. Regardless of what happens with Bryce you can't tell me a team learns how to win by losing a poo ton of games every year. Need to be happy we are currently not a basement dweller at this point in the season like we have been for the last 7 seasons. Even the year we went 7-10 we were 2-7 at this point. We just knocked off the #1 team in the NFC and have a winning record after the first 8 weeks for the first time in over 7 NFL seasons. The team deserves at least a little bit of fan support after having turned a very small corner.

Interesting turn of events

And this is what people need to understand. This is how a winning culture is built. We're a young team trying to find our way and we'll definitely take our lumps here and there. But the amount of bitching and complaining when we're sitting at 5-4 is kind of crazy. The last few years we would have killed to have a 5-4 record at this point instead of 1-7 2-6 or 0-8. I dont care how we win ive watched my favorite football team be complete ass for far too long. Sunday felt good. Fug you if you feel different. #KeepPounding

Yea his off platform and ability to make plays like he did in college just hasn't translated. He was never going to be a prototypical drop back passer. He has to make a living going outside the structure of the play call and he hasn't been able to do that anywhere near a consistent basis. However he did make some plays yesterday when he needed to. Not that we couldn't have gotten that from anyone else but I've definitely seen plenty of good QBs come up short in those situations.

Pretty much yes but only the severe optimistics understand that maybe he COULD still get there. Maybe.

To be fair we only threw the ball 20 times, we have cycled through the most players AND player combinations on the Oline out of any other team this season. This was also one of the better pass rushing units in the NFL and in a hostile environment. Can't expect him to have gaudy numbers especially when the run game is working as well as it was with Rico. They really couldn't stop it

-62 is absolutely nuts

Well let's be honest here. The Jets was probably the absolute worst place for Fields to go and try and resurrect his career. Sure they have solid offensive players but that place is known for being QB Purgatory. Same with us and the Raiders.

Nah. This team would have found a way to lose this game 10/10 times the last few seasons. They closed out a game on a day in which they didn't play their best (offense). They gave up some plays on defense but made plays when it mattered most. They got 6 sacks against one of the worst pass pro units in the NFL and did what they were supposed to. That is improvement from where we were and that is something to be modestly happy about

The Panthers keeping Dalton around to continue to be the #2 is likely why they don't have to worry much about that ever really happening.

Great post. Thank you for that

So games that Qbs made mistakes in, but still play well enough to win, doesnt deserve credit for game winning drives because of the mistakes that were made earlier in the game? That makes absolutely no sense

We have the most expensive O Line due in large part to T-Mo. If we had a rookie RT or Christensen and didn't have a $30 or $40 mill cap hit at that spot it wouldn't be so bad. We will essentially be shifting T-Mos cap hit to Ickey with hopefully a rookie taking over that RT spot.

Thielen wouldn't have been higher than WR 3 on any other team but the Panthers though. Look what he's done with the Vikings so far. Every starting WR that was traded/released/ not resigned hasnt done anything for another team but they were Bryce's #1/#2 WRs during their time here. Johnson, Mingo, Chark, Thielen, Marshall Jr. Most of those guys were the WR1 during his first two years! That is a crazy terrible list. Throw in the fact that XL has looked more like a typical Panthers 2nd round dud than a true 1st round pick like DJ Moore or even Tmac and you can easily see that the Panthers have not done a good enough job with surrounding Bryce with NFL talent at the skill positions That's not to say Bryce doesn't deserve his fair share of criticism. He absolutely does. He has a lot of terrible turnovers and makes some pretty bad throws/reads. I think he's limited in the short range, screen passes etc. And doesn't have good enough deep throw accuracy to keep defenses honest. We'll see what happens but if Bryce fails the Panthers front office definitely had a part to play

Definitely get the sentiments of the OP. Young's weapons can't just be 2 solid OGs, one being on IR. The weapons added through the draft and FA have been absolute dogsh*t excluding Tmac of course. Bryce isn't without his faults though. The amount of stupid fuging turnovers that go for TDs have to stop. I've never seen the QB fumble like he does as often as he does. That has nothing to do with the players around him. I'm still willing to give Bryce this season especially with Coker coming back but I don't have high hopes. He has to continue to flash playmaking ability and stop being the reason this team remains one of the worst 1st half teams in NFL History.

Baltimores playbook (obv) has all of the designed Cam runs from the Gun Heavy formation

I'm so sick of looking forward to football season every year only for our season to be done before September ends every year. This is so depressing. Year after year same old sh*t.

Unfortunately Bryce will never have that "dog" mentality that Morgan was trying to preach. One of the things I loved most about Cam. Him tearing down that Packers banner will be one of my fondest memories. We dont have a single player on our roster that gives a fug that much.

Interesting. So what this is saying is if everything goes the way it's supposed too every play we have a potential MVP QB on our hands? Very interesting.

Winning cures all