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If you look at the gamesheet, I almost laugh at the fact that if we didn't have turnovers, we would've beat the daylights out of the falcons. I can't remember for the life of me remember the last time we had a game like this. And this was on Bryce's first game. If Bryce cleans that up and Sanders doesn't fumble anymore, I'm still positive that this team can have a winning record. Even if this was against the falcons... We had more first downs (20 : 13) We were more efficient on third down (5-14 : 2-10) We had more total yards (281 : 221) (Including both more rushing and passing yards We owned Time of Possession (35 minutes to 25) The only places we got outdone are penalties ( 9-66 : 6-43), average gain of offensive play (3.9 : 4.6), Red Zone Effiency, and turnovers. Was this a sloppy game? Yes, absolutely, but there's still so much positive to build on. Literally every #1 pick had a lackluster debut, and Bryce is no exception to that. Look at Peyton Manning and Joe Burrow especially. Don't judge our rookie by the second or third game either. This entire season is about him absorbing knowledge. We have 5 years to make this work (It's really rare for a QB and Coach to win their first SB after five years if they haven't won one already). Does it suck to not have a first round pick? Yes, it does. But we'll still have a top 40 pick even if we're garbage. We also have free agency and trades. Scott fixed the O-Line in two years. I can give him another year to turn the team around. TLDR, don't overreact like the other people who have similar views posted, give this process time. If we win, we win the division and we laugh at the bears, but Bryce learning is the most important thing. PPS: Thank you for reading. b07c4783-f053-11ed-b4a7-bab79e4492fa.pdf

I really hate the score 24-10

how the actual do you not redo the play for offsetting penalties

If our defense wasn't playing possessed we would've lost this thing a while ago it seems.

jaycee horn might be our next jon beason wth

Reading this is like drinking a fresh cup of water compared to Rhule's urine.

I love how our game is the least important according to fox that we get Chris Meyers of all people

I just want to win an overtime game against them for once. Now would be a good time. Imagine Reich winning his first game as a panthers coach in overtime, against the falcons, in Atlanta. It would be a great contrast to Reich, losing his first game as Panthers QB, in overtime, against the falcons, in Atlanta.

I don't think the nutjobs that say "We can find another DE/OLB" understand how damn hard it is to get even a half quality edge rusher. Brian Burns has well outplayed the 16th overall pick we selected him with (thank lord it wasn't greg little), and there's a reason why every front office in the league would pay him a big money deal. The reason the EDGE is the second most valuable position is because it is the most likely option on any defense to neutralize the game's most VALUABLE position: QB. Brian Burns had 12.5 sacks last year. He's a proven go-getter that can sack the QB. On top of that, HE IS 25. This man has literally 7+ more seasons of quality football left. No wise player wants to play on his fifth year option because he can get hurt and it significantly reduces his market cap. IT IS QUITE LITERALLY WHAT LAMAR DID ONCE HE GOT HURT AND EVERYONE STOOD BY HIM. Burns and his camp are playing it perfectly waiting for the younger Bosa to get his bag. He is looking out for himself, and that's 100% what they should be. People forget that it's very easy to lose your job in the NFL. Injuries can destroy a man, and setting up the next two generations versus the next six or seven is a big deal to everyone. To all the pansies that say "That's football... and Just play on the fifth year option." you're just yelling at a brick wall. TLDR: Stop saying it's his fault. It's also not the team's fault. We're at a standstill because we're waiting on Nick Bosa.

If he does suck, you got to admit, he has to be the first coach to play under 4 different owners in two different organizations in nfl history. Though he is the dumbass who decided to join the commanders instead of waiting at least another week. I genuinely wonder made made him choose them.

It's a podcast the current play-by-play guy, Anish Shroff, is doing with I believe Jake Delhomme. It covers the 2003 team and I've been listening to it. It's really good.

Falcons. I will never trust Dennis Allen with my life. It overjoys me that we get two free wins because of that atrocious bum.

I know it won't happen, but watch it be Matt Corral just for the funnies

Here comes our return guy i guess

28 Million is a lot, even for Brian Burns.

As a panther fan that really started getting into football in 2017, I thank all for the enlightenment.

2011 Wide Receivers: Steve Smith Sr. Kealoha Pilares Legedu Naanee Brandon LaFell Seyi Ajirotutu Darvin Adams 2023 Wide Receivers: Adam Thielen DJ Chark Jr. Jonathan Mingo Terrace Marshall Jr. Lavishka Shenault Jr. Shi Smith Which position group is better than why? I say 2023. This two contrasts, combined with the fact that Cam threw for 4k yards with that crew, is why I'm not concerned for Bryce.

wish him the best but not here

He was trying to pass off the assignment, but I'm guessing he got confused because he thought Thibs would do an inside move like a twist, and didn't play for the outside rush (around his outside instead of his inside). FWIW, i'd rather the line workout issues now than later.

someone get me a paper bag and alcohol

Thanks for that claification

Guys, in the press conference reich was asked about Kemu Grieger-hill and he was mentioning something that was "tragic and I've talked to him and his family"... anything that we know about? What was that about?

watching the end where he threw an interception on a hail mary, and immeidately after apologizing to the coach and his family, he goes to the south endzone to pray to the lord. He wasn't angry with the lord for the loss, he just said "everything happens for a reason. Thank you for the lessons you taught me." Man that's awesome.

Oh how I wish they would show the Talent Show

Fowler's notes from Carolina Panthers camp (ESPN + so I just copy / pasted it) Location: Spartanburg, South Carolina Date visited: Aug. 4 After taking one of multiple coverage sacks Friday, Bryce Young started jogging downfield before chucking the ball into the ground in disgust, a rare glimpse of raw emotion from a steely player. But this was a small blemish on an otherwise strong day for Young, who completed passes into tight coverage downfield and did not commit a turnover. Young's arm strength is adequate, and his savvy fools even the Panthers' best defensive players. "He caught me today, actually," pass-rusher Brian Burns told me. "I was dropping in the hook ... he kind of looked me off and like, I guess gave a little pump fake, so I bit on the cheese and he hit me over top for a big one. So I'm going to get him back. But it is good to have that on the other side. I think he's going to be good for us." A few themes have emerged in Young's evaluation: ▪ He has already advanced in the art of the line-of-scrimmage check -- Young shows full command of the offense pre-snap. At one point in the spring, he checked into a play that the Panthers hadn't run yet. ▪ The Panthers aren't concerned about interceptions in training camp. Young has thrown several, but coaches have encouraged him to try new stuff, with one I spoke to comparing the process to Chris Rock testing out new material in small clubs to rehearse for the big Netflix special. ▪ Yes, there's concern here about his size. That's natural. Young is listed at 5-foot-10, 204 pounds, and the Panthers knew the risks when they drafted him. But they are confident in how he protects himself, and the staff has encouraged him to throw the ball away when the play isn't there. ▪ Young has a quick release and adequate arm strength -- not a huge arm, but plenty good. But the quickness of the release is most impressive. ▪ Young's relationship with backup Andy Dalton has blossomed. The two have become close, and Dalton is constantly talking things out with him. Carolina has surrounded Young with QB whisperers. Three of his coaches -- Reich, senior assistant Jim Caldwell and quarterbacks coach Josh McCown -- carry cachet in working with quarterbacks. The Panthers set their sights on Young months before the draft, and when they traded with Chicago to secure the No. 1 pick, they challenged themselves to find a reason not to take him. They didn't find one (even though Anthony Richardson thoroughly impressed in the process). Months later, the Panthers have zero regrets. There's definitely a feeling they got the right guy, because of his makeup, character and ability to process information. Best of the rest: ▪ On Adam Thielen's way out of Minnesota, questions persisted about whether he could still separate. The Panthers have been pleased with his top-end speed, tracking him at 20-plus miles per hour on the GPS device. Thielen had a knee injury late last season that could have affected his burst. Now fully healthy, the Panthers expect him to play a variety of roles, from working in the slot to getting loose on the outside. ▪ The Justin Houston signing was timely. Defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero said last week "it's a fact" that someone opposite Burns needs to solidify the starting role. With Marquis Haynes Sr. injured, Carolina pushed to make a move but wasn't comfortable paying the $10.5 million that Yannick Ngakoue got from Chicago. ▪ Burns told me he's not concerned with his contract but would love to stay in Carolina long term. He reported to camp because he wanted to show leadership. Sides are not close on a new deal. With Nick Bosa expected to put up a massive number on an extension with San Francisco, that could have a trickle-down effect on Burns, the proverbial next man up. Burns doesn't seem hesitant to play out the last year of his rookie contract at $16 million guaranteed. He's eyeing a massive season regardless. "I'm far from my ceiling," Burns said. He thinks a more improved Carolina team will result in more opportunities for pass-rushers and others. "We've been pretty bad for the last couple of years," he said. "I've been through the downs a lot. It's time to start winning. It's at that point." ▪ DJ Chark Jr. could end up being a steal in free agency after signing for $5 million guaranteed on a one-year deal. Chark finally looks healthy and is showing explosiveness. He caught a slick touchdown from Young by the sideline, and his deep-ball prowess has been on display. ▪ Consider safety Jeremy Chinn a "big nickel" player -- he can play cornerback in the nickel package or slide to linebacker in a dime package. The Panthers believe he can stuff the stat sheet in this new role. "This guy is a weapon," Evero said. Key fantasy note: Running back Miles Sanders has a relatively healthy fantasy outlook. The loose expectation is he'll hover around 15 carries per game, on average, along with 3-5 catches per game. Some running backs can run parts of the wide receiver route tree, some can't -- Sanders can. Expect Carolina to utilize his hands more than Philadelphia did. And Young isn't afraid to check it down if there's not a play downfield, as he showed during Friday's practice. So, Sanders won't lead the league in touches -- Carolina's offense isn't built like that -- but Carolina believes he's capable of handling three-down-back duties.