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Considering who the owner is, the Panthers are fortunate they could find anyone in the NFL who would take the job.

After 17 games of of attempting to have an open mind, my conclusion: I felt the same in game 17 as I did in game 1. He has neither a strong arm nor and accurate arm. THAT is not going to change. How that was missed is amazing to me.

I'm not a Fitt fan at all but...it's hard to believe someone with his background could be as bad as he has been without some help. Namely, Rhule and Tepper.

It won't take a new coach to figure out: What is needed most is GOOD players at just about every position.

The BEST player available. Period.

I agree. He chose not to throw at the combine. That's 100% on him. He made a business decision. He got what he was shooting for -- being drafted Number One. Financially, he'll be fine. He apparently is a good person so he should have a nice life ahead of him. That said, I didn't see an elite arm at Alabama. And I still haven't seen one. Good luck to him.

All I'll add is: I thought this last fall, winter and spring. I said the guy is not accurate and he doesn't have a strong arm. I've seen nothing this year to change my mind. It's not hate. I like the guy. It just is and no amount of coaching will change it.

Yes, Maye and Williams are upgrades. Why? Because Fields' body won't hold up. I said that before he was drafted. As big a person as Cam was, he also had a short career.

At this point, you take a deep breath. Find a competent person to run the franchise -- Belichick, Harbaugh (WHOEVER, I don't know who that magic person is. It's not Fitterer). Then, hire a coach. Again, Belichick, Harbaugh, WHOEVER. Then, draft the best player available in the second. Point: Don't panic and draft at QB in the second round. There won't be one.

As someone on here posted a two months ago: "Everyone wants to be a head coach. Working for Tepper won't be a deal breaker." I thought the guy who posted this was an idiot then and I still think he's a idiot.

No, it's not.

I still have concerns about throwing him to the wolves like they have this season without anything around him. At some point you have to ask: "Is this doing more harm than good?"

As far as hope, at the point, the Panthers prayer should be that Drake remains in school and waits for rhe 2025 draft. This will never happen because the owner is a lost cause but...if it were me, I would attempt to bring Brandon Beane back home from Buffalo. The guy is from Norwood and went to UNC Wilmington. I would make him President and General Manager and buy him a mansion on Lake Norman. Does he really want to spend his career in that cold weather? (My understanding is you CAN hire from another organization if it's a promotion/hirer position. Since I don't know all the intricate hiring rules in the NFL, I could be wrong on this.) So, bring Beane in and Beane starts "talking to" Mark Maye behind the scenes about how he (Beane) is going to straighten this mess out. Who knows. Ya gotta try something. A pipe dream I know.

I do. I posted during the Atlanta game , Week One: "This team is staring down the barrel at 0-17." Well, I was wrong about that.

Her first question when she settled into to her new office was, "where do ya'll keep the football bats."

No one really knows. But...had the Panthers done the above -- kept Wilks and not made the trade -- it would have been a nice gamble to draft Hendon Hooker in the 3rd round as your potential future QB. It won't surprise me at all to see him be very good in 2-3 years.

And be stuck in the Twilight Zone with no hope/promise for the future. I for one am not even close to ready to say Young will not be a good NFL QB. Darnold? I'm sure he won't be. I'm also sure that with Wilks, Darnold and Co. fighting for a division title, we would have no hope of landing Maye or Williams in the 2024 draft.

Some have a fire in their belly to be the best. Others don't. Where does the fire come from? No one knows.

Uh...Young isn't exactly fleet of foot. Surprising, considering his size.

That 2022 1st round pick looks better and better.

Gosh, maybe if you pass on 1st down, they might not be expecting it. I guess Frank has some grand plan that he has passed down to his OC.

Looks like Frank is back to calling the plays. PATHETIC.

So, this is what we get when Frank isn't calling plays? PATHETIC.

How many first round draft picks did the Panthers give up?

To be honest, I haven't watched him enough to conclude lack of processing. I just thought his style screamed he wouldn't stay healthy. I felt the same way about Richardson. I don't feel that was about Young because what he does best is processing and he knows to not challenge anyone physically.