Bear Hands

This stalemate, Burns’ average performance and the team playing so poorly has definitely put us in a pickle. We’ll have to overpay to keep him but we lost value if we tag and trade (which may be hard to do in itself). I could legit see him just go elsewhere.

Yeah, the list keeps going haha.

Just looking around the league, let's consider the true top tier pass rushers and DL. Is Burns really comparable to any of these guys? I just don't see it. TJ Watt Myles Garrett Trey Hendrickson Maxx Crosby Khalil Mack Nick Bosa Josh Allen Micah Parsons Aiden Hutchinson Danielle Hunter Bradley Chubb Justin Madubuike Hassan Reddick

Yep. I'm not in the crowd wanting a QB at 33, or even 64, but given what we saw this year with a bad product on the offense (coaching, OL, WR, & QB), he'll need to show some apparent improvement under a new regime that can prove the negatives we saw this season are due to things out of his control. I'm talking pocket awareness, throws on out routes, pre-snap calls, accuracy, footwork, ball-control when tackled. If not, it's just not going to work out (at least for him in the QC) You usually know by that 1.5 year mark. But failing an eye test at this degree should sound alarms.

As a team who has seen one of the absolute worst and then one of the best rookie seasons in NFL history, in sequential years, this is one of the more appropriate groups for seeing what promise vs. not cutting it looks like. I really don't think calling it for what it is, is some overreaction. There's a level of eye test needing to be passed and Bryce did not cut it this season. Simple as that. This was Jake Locker level. Now sure, I'll give him into next season but holy hell, this was just bad. I simply can't get over the lack of zip and his footwork. Not to mention, there are huge detriments that aren't correctable physically, he does not have the arm (I don't know how people can't see this, the zip is not there), and now, he is playing scared 100% of the time. This is a bad situation. I know he's a "good kid" or whatever and people WANT him to be good. But he just wasn't. He has A LOT to prove in short order.

We didn't make the trades we should've made and made all the ones we shouldn't have. No trade down in 2021 from #8 with teams calling (could've gained a 1st) No Burns trade at one of the highest market non-QB values you'll find (2 firsts) Didn't play hardball in CMC's deal with multiple teams calling Traded for Sam Darnold (gave up a 2nd, 4th and 5th) Traded for CJ Henderson (gave up a third) Traded for Matt Corral (gave up an extra 3rd) Traded for Brandon Smith (gave up a higher pick package) Traded for #1 Overall (gave up DJ Moore and a boatload) Traded up for DJ Johnson..next picks proceeded to be Achane, Diaby and Spears lol Fail after fail after fail after fail after fail

Oh look another rookie WR looking great (Wicks in GB)

Solid

Well he grabbed a sack today. Final 2023 stats: 32 solo tackles, 8 sacks, 15 TFL, 1 FF Worst statistical year since his rookie campaign. - Is he a better asset than Montez Sweat? Is he worth $25 million+ per year? $20m? How do we navigate his situation? Word was beginning of season discussions were around $27m/yr

"other people have been worse" Solid

Imagine if they spent the time actually building a team with a distinct framework in mind.

At least we have one consistently decent franchise in the Carolinas.

ouchhhhhh

2-15 after going all-in on the #1 overall pick, a GM saying we were ready for a playoff run lol..and no 1st the following season. This is the worst all things considered. We have 4-5 players worth a damn.

Lost 5 of their last 6 games -- went from the potential 1 seed to missing the playoffs.

JAX fell apart. Lawrence still does not look good. He's not playing like a guy who will get another contract for JAX.

IF he's not looking good under a new situation next year, he honestly may not stick around the NFL as a backup. Could get benched by game 6-7ish if the results look the same under a new regime and then, I see him sliding out of the league. I could easily see him leaving and build a career outside the game (on the field that is).

68 passing yards to close the season. 41 of those came on a busted coverage.

Oh you're right -- Bears and Cards both win, they're in

Yep... Chark Mile Sanders CJ Henderson Adam Thielen (maybe) TMJ Ian Thomas Gross-Matos Xavier Woods Burns Haynes Stephen Sullivan Troy Hill (played well but he'll go elsewhere) Chinn (maybe) Deshawn Williams

We're about to lose 9-0 lol. Wtf

At least the Saints miss the playoffs.

Nightmare season ends in 5!

They could knock out Cleveland round 1. And honestly, the way Buffalo, KC & Miami have looked, the Texans could wind up in the AFCC. Not a stretch.

What an awful pass. I'm turning this off the quad box