Bear Hands

The YPA going up so much also had to do with the system change. But what was unlocked in him was not some common thing you can unlock in any draft pick. Brees had placement, touch, and an uncanny ability to stay on the field even when they weren't really moving the ball. Got 1st down after first down until they could crack a defense. What I'm seeing rookie to rookie is comparable YPA and stat wise, and they have similar sizes, but it's pretty different. Bryce doesn't press into 1 on 1 coverage with over the shoulder throws like Brees did. When there wasn't anything there, Brees tried to figure out the layering and deeper placements. Really drove when things weren't even there and it wasn't always pretty. But that's how he learned.

The other thing to note re:drafting -- there really can not be the usual "wait a few more years for the picks to work out" retort. The year where they said he had more say with Rhule, we traded up, TWICE. And both of those guys are off the team completely after 1 season (Corral and Brandon Smith). Corral is basically out of the NFL. I'm going to repeat this ad nauseam, but we used 5 picks in the 2022 draft to take 3 guys ALREADY off the team. Last years draft, 5 picks, completely gone, poof. Ekwonu is struggling mightily, Mays and Barno, I mean, they're going to be depth here or elsewhere at best. I agree, that he has a certain eye, seems like a cool, professional, knowledgeable guy, knows who he is and how he operates, but he's made so many poor moves. There's no justifying how bad it's been. What we turned CMC's trade package into is just sad. Compounding 2021's disaster of a draft, 2022, and now this year's with Bryce, Mingo, and long shots in DJ and Zavala, that's three in a row with virtually nothing. 2021 set it off for me not taking Slater. I could be sold the idea of us not taking Parsons, Surtain, Devonta, & Darrisaw pre-hindsight, but not Slater. So many wanted him right alongside Sewell. This year, the lack of speed on offense was a glaring problem. There was Achane, Mims, Dell, Spears, Downs, Reed, Douglas, Scott, plenty to offer and we pressed elsewhere keeping a blind eye to such a critical component to success. Gave up more picks during the draft for DJJ. Could've easily landed some excitement on offense. It's just all crap. Giving up so much for projects who amount to nothing.

Refresher of Brees' in SD -- just know that these are highlights, not lowlights.

Losing, consistently, perpetually, & for the foreseeable future.

Panthers can't. They just can't.

It's also mostly the same crew who saw us barely win a few and trade for Gilmore at 3-2. I remember them even talking playoffs after that trade in the presser lol. Fitt is done. It's all a matter of blowing the entire thing up from scouting department to long term ST guys at this point.

I mean, we saw it with Cam people. And if you say, well Cam was unique, generational, well is a #1 overall you trade the farm for not supposed to be just that? It seemed like we just wanted to be able to choose and not get who fell to us in an average class. and he looks super pedestrian. If you can’t tell by his play, line or not right now, I don’t know what to tell you. Our only win was scoring 15 points against another rookie coach and QB.

You can look good and capable enough to show flashes with this personnel. “good” being relative to this franchise

That's the thing ding ding ding. Everyone saw first hand, a #1 overall player who elevated a bad OL and bad WR group. We landed the #1 pick that year for being terrible in 2010. This year, we traded up claiming we weren't that bad to get a guy to take us far. It is amazing what territory we're walking into..have to call a spade a spade right now. Anyone honest with themselves should recognize what we are seeing is nowhere near 1st round caliber, let alone, #1 overall.

He makes around 2 nice lead-the-receiver throws per game. We have well past the point where we can point to those as some grand indicator of potential. The throws don't have proper velocity, his footwork is jittery, his accuracy is regressing. Line or not, you've got to show something more. We traded soooo much for you dude. Pressure or no, this is it. It's looking and feeling like we've got a guy here until we don't. The whole essence of the game and feel of things is much more in the Pickett/Trubisky/Locker realm than some promising talent that's losing games. I'm just not seeing anything. Can't outrun DTs, can't throw deep accurately, can't hold onto the ball (4 strips), now countless misreads for pick 6s this year. 8 total TDs to 11 TOs Averaging low 100s passing yards per game. We've seen first hand talent can supersede playcalling and offensive talent in Cam. It is simply not happening folks.

There's no way around it. Worst game off Bryce's short career so far. Gave Indy 14 points, 8 TDs to 11 TOs (7 INTs) on the year.

He took off a few stretches of snaps between getting abused in run D. Had a splashy TFL after he sat for around 4-5 snaps on a drive.

Burns down.

Let's take the remaining rookie QB class out of the equation, Bryce just looks bad. You don't need to compare. With protection or under duress, the velocity is not there on his throws, throws are behind or high way more than expected, and these sideline throws seem to just hang in the air forever. He just doesn't have the zip you want. Every week I keep saying, we've gotta be patient, can't just say bust quite yet, but he's just not looking good. There's only so many ways you can talk around that basic point.

They are definitely players, as in they play the game of football. I'll give you that.

Ed in accounting

Ouuuuch

Sacks allowed in a row? Possibly.

Both of y'all just stop. K? Geez.

Bolded what I'm agreeing with and did not expect. He's been having a really rough season. He's just getting manhandled.

I am still shocked we won last week haha

One of my biggest problems is that he's averaging around 75 snap % per game. We still don't play him like a true 3-down lineman. That in itself is such a big problem. Should be mid to high 80s. He'll go out of games from stretches anywhere from 3 to 5 snaps in a row.

We have absolutely zero faith in this receiving corps

Shoulder to chest. Penalty lol FFS

Okay there you go, rest Burns for 3 snaps then bring him back in haha