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Herbert over/under 300 yards? Over Bryce Young over/under 2 turnovers? Under, but he plays crazy conservative terrible Bryce Young over/under 200 passing yards? Under Score Predictions? Chargers 30 Panthers 6 Watching: Redzone/Sunday Ticket

Betting Odds: Currently -6.5 Chargers, O/U 39 Tickets: Stubhub is floating around $15 right now: https://www.stubhub.com/carolina-panthers-charlotte-tickets-9-15-2024/event/153077178/?quantity=2 Questions: Herbert over/under 300 yards? Bryce Young over/under 2 turnovers? Bryce Young over/under 200 passing yards? Score Predictions? -- How we feeling? Planning to watch? I'm planning on Redzone & ST Quad-Box (I will give us our opening drive on 1 in the quad)

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I don’t see many ads - not just saying that bc I’m a mod. And yeah, some of the larger general sports boards are still out there but even the largest boards there ever were have shuttered (I.e IMDB off the top of my head). Digital Third Space is simply occupied on other platforms these days. So I’ll double down to say it’s surviving past its expiration date off of who remains from the fan base of the worst team in the league that had two memorable stretches in the past 25 years. I imagine JI could’ve handed it off or shut it, but he keeps it open when it’s basically a hefty and unnecessary bill from Invision, so I find that pretty nice. Going to lock for now as I don’t see this going much further. Not hating on your thread, but let’s just try to make it fun while we can in here haha.

We are mostly the leftovers. A few fossils, some X, Millenial and older Z who did not migrate to reddit, discord or wherever the heck kids complain about their sport teams these days. Message boards are a dying breed. Enjoy it while it’s still here.

I like the interior OL, Brooks and Trevin. Rooting for JT and Legette to have success. Outside of those few, there’s not much else. No potential stud rusher, have no faith in Horn, no future secondary leader, no real top dawg WR, no stars.

Know your foe: They will destroy us. end

Therein lies I think the most fundamental problem with Bryce. He wants to play like a Mahomes, but his limitations don’t allow for it (size, speed, arm, quickness) and he should be playing like the lesser mobile guys who step up and take the hits (Purdue, Goff, Stanford, Carr). Problem is, the street style became second nature to him in school and he’s not shaking it out. But on the flip side, he also doesn’t have the body to take those hits consistently. So he’s kind of f’n screwed on both ends. Kyler works (sometimes, not even all the time) and Russ had his good years because they had escapability and the arm. Bryce doesn’t have that. So he’s a walking contradiction and I just don’t see a fit for him in the NFL much longer if I’m being entirely honest. No arm, can’t outpace DLs, can’t consistently see the field, terrible pocket presence, bad footwork, low energy, he legitimately has none of the traits you look for in a modern QB. Nice guy I’ll give him that.

It’s the Juan special. And it’s corrected

Reporters gotta ask Canales to really know. It depends on how much control they’re giving him and how much we have baked in. Stafford for example is given a ton of liberty to adjust and they seem to have designated receivers that are hot on given plays. If we’re still playing with kid gloves though, they may not be integrating this. And Bryce isn’t good at getting it out quick with his weird drop back so it may not be practical with him. Reich let Bryce do kills (2 play options) last year which had pretty brutal results. Overall, I imagine Canales has some sort of option for Bryce, audible or hots— a NFL offense should have some sort of blitz pickup built in. And he should’ve recognized it…I mean, we had the same CB blitz for 3 sacks lol. I dunno anymore, but it’s brutal to behold

I'm keeping this one open lol

Totally, seemed like a level-headed video. Not targeting him with my comments, speaking a bit more generally.

Who TF is Jayden Peevy? lol

We’re dealing with a newborn and turned it off after 15ish minutes so have only seen through highlights. Seemed like instances where he needs to make the call or timeout if there’s multiple unblocked defenders staring him right in the face. Don’t know what type of blitz protection we have built into our offense for him to call for but it was there for him to diagnose pre snap.

That’s not terrible for their ranks either. We gave him time, OL played well. Diontae and Adam were schemed open. Hell, Sanders, Mingo and Legette created some room at times. For at least 3 of the sacks, Bryce had the chance to work presnap and call protections and he just sat and took the snap. The QB is not sufficient.

I will say, it’s a bit cathartic in respect to how many “analysts” (aka random guys and failed QBs who think of themselves as these online gurus, dissecting all-22s like it’s their day jobs) look like idiots. I didn’t want Bryce to be awful but it was pretty annoying being told what we were seeing was somehow just due to environment and he was some ingenious QB. I wanted CJ but once it became obvious it was Bryce, I fully got on his train and drank the koolaid. But then it was pretty clear early on he was not cutting it and the veil that Bama produced was strong. Many just wanted to hold onto hope, don’t blame that, but the people trying so hard to dissect Bryce’s every play to spot the good and denigrate us criticizing were insufferable. This is some nasty kool-aid reflux. The fanbase needs some omeprazole pronto.

Amen. Jeans Day Friday and a massage IOUs compared to Snyder, Jones and Kraft. I mean, it’s all messy but JR was the least of the NFL’s worries. Owners just knew they could bully him out bc his son’s were the actual trash and there were no heirs…they easily pushed out of the least wealthy owners and let a big financial player into their club. All money driven just like the bs international crap. And believe me, my one big insider side of things is with NFL ownership and I know how they treated JR at owner’s meetings. He was the senile grandpa who had no idea what was going on and he was discarded. They made fun of him to his face without him even knowing. Imagine the press around Navarro and his daughter killing it in the tennis world too. They missed out going with this finance bozo Tepper who has no real gravitas or ability to build anything. He knows how to accrue and gain, but he’s not a builder.

Rhule was such dogsh*t. Baker looked alright that first game too, and then the reailty of Rhule set in and we set him free before a free-fall. Played immediately better on the Rams for McVay. We cycled through QBs that were fine for now (and maybe 2-3 years) when the team needed to be built. Then claimed we had a well-constructed team that simply overperformed with Wilks to just sit and go all in on a terrible QB. Total failure. Never forget, we gave the Bears what became Caleb Williams QB, DJ Moore WR (top-10 WR), Darnell Wright OT (stud), Tyrique Stevenson CB (stud/who I wanted at 39), their starting punter Tory Taylor, and what looks like pick 33 next year lol. For Bryce f*cking Young.

If this catches on like the “pillows” nickname campaign then watch out!…

If the Rams kept Eric Crouch as a QB instead of converting to a WR, I think he would have done better. Hell, Armanti too.

2 I thought there would be enough handicaps in place to make Bryce look alright and manage an okay game. But offense was an unmitigated disaster Defensively, we are severely lacking speed in the secondary and pass rush. Vertical teams are going to obliterate us.

This is a legitimately 0-17 type squad with the secondary, pass rush, and QB play. And let’s be real, we’re still likely a top pick at 3-14 so if Bryce is completely awful, I see no reason why we shouldn’t try out other tank commanders to help see what else we’ve got on this team. It would be nice to at least try to find parts for the future.

I’ve enjoyed watching him develop over the years. He has really come along as a passer, has a great arm, legs. A bit inconsistent and reckless trying to play superhero, but that’s what’s been improving. If he continues, we’re likely looking at Beck, Allar, Ewers, and Ward.