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@Mr. Scot Is right about the Cards. Anyone catch the reports that coaching candidates have been declining further interviews bc they don't want to have Kyler as their QB? Haha https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/news/report-kyler-murray-deterring-potential-arizona-cardinals-coaching-candidates

He's like really damn good. I got on a weird kick rooting for Tulane this past year. They closed out beating like 4 ranked teams (finishing off Caleb & USC in the Cotton) Was hoping his QB Pratt was going to declare too. They also have a great lineman in this draft. But Spears was such a huge part of that entire team. He's got that obvious starting RB quality to him Pierce showed last year. He's a bit more like a Khalil Herbert/more jacked up Tony Pollard. Just absolutely love his game.

This was a fun one. Given the loudness in the Richardson department on this board, tried something different. Traded up only to trade down, gather picks. Think this would be a 3-starter gain, Foskey, Kelly & Spears all potential starters as well.

I believe Jake Haener would be the last man standing with those lines.

Bryant Rhule, is that you?

Their layout is always great, one of the best designed websites for this type of thing. Not for QBs/or Panther related-- but I am beginning to agree with the S-N & Addison both over Johnston at WR. Seen that popping up on more than a few places recently. In deep diving, seems many aren't the biggest fans of Quentin's catching style and route running.

Interesting week so far in Mobile. Some expectations have been adjusted and it sounds like the lower tiers of QBs are not impressing. My Updated Rankings: 1. Bryce Young (Top-5) 2. CJ Stroud (Top-10) 3. Will Levis (Top-10) --tier drop-- 4. Anthony Richardson (Mid R1-2) 5. Tanner McKee (Late R1-2) --tier drop-- 6. Hendon Hooker (R2-3) 7. Jake Haener (R3-5) 8. Max Duggan (R4-6) 9. Jaren Hall (R4-6) --tier drop-- 10 & Beyond: Tune, O'Connell, Thompson-Rob, Bagent (7th-UDFA)

Daiyan Henley LB out of Wash State has been really impressing from what I've read. Seen glowing reviews for him, Dell WR, Jake Haener QB, Spears RB, & Kyu Blue Kelly CB on more than just a few articles. Spears is probably my favorite RB target at this point and who I'd love for us to grab mid rounds. Sounds like Duggan & Haener are the only QBs worth a damn which is kind of a bummer. McKee isn't there, Hooker isn't playing of course due to injury.

LOL I love how deadpan Scott is there. You just know there's a subtle degree of "get this mother f*cker out of here Dave" deep in Scott's soul during that high five

As mentioned, I would also question the balance of power, particularly the 2021 season. A pendulum seemed to swing to Fitt at some point but I think that was after the 2021 season and leading into 2022. Who really knows though. Last year though, looking promising. Not hyperbolizing when I say it was one of our best FA hauls ever. I also wouldn't have the big WHO? by Barno. That kid earned playing time and made a few plays when brought in. 2 sacks, 2 qb hits, 2 tfl on only 30ish total snaps on the year. He looked pretty promising. Not to mention was one of the preseason guys who shined.

Just noting his size. Most prototypical of all the prospects.

Not saying he’s my top by any means, but Tanner McKee fits the mold physically.

He was loved in Detroit. That's an awesome get; Williams was a revelation this season.

Tyjae Spears & Chase Brown are 2 RBs I have my eye on. LOVE Spears

Everyone's focus is shifting to QB now with the HC settled haha. Should be a fun Feb-May stretch!

I've just always seen a semblance there haha. Especially with the tough-shorty bravado thing going on. "Put em up!, Lemme at em'!"

I don't think Corral is really waiting in the wings. He seems as much as an after thought for our staff as people online. I'm not classifying him a bust by any means, I imagine Reich will be giving him a look this summer, but he was the 94th pick for a reason. They've made clear they're still looking. It's not settle on Corral season. He's just not some high end pick we have to account for, he was within 30 picks of Eason pick # wise (not year), who was Reich's own pick and pretty similar in age 24/25. And they'll know what they're working with well before the preseason rolls around; they know what to spot. Reich made Foles, Wentz, Brissett all look their best and worked with some of the better QBs in the 2000s in Manning, Rivers, & Luck. He knows what he's doing with the modern passing game. They're going to be searching for a guy that works for them, and we'll find out come FA & Draft. I just caution anyone going into this offseason thinking Corral is this QB we can simply just take a chance with and throw to the wolves. If our last staff was even tepid about bringing him into the preseason games in an open comp, then I just highly caution he's more on the QB3/PS territory than QB2/Emergency Starter side of things.

With how bad the Bears backup situation was when Fields missed time, I'd be serious about packaging Corral in the deal to help offset a future pick. We could just as easily pick another mid/late rounder developmental guy in 2024/25. No use in having one in 2023 if we're going top rookie & a vet backup combo for the active-53.

I think it's fair to say it is open season in the NFC. Post-Brady & Rodgers, and the likelihood INDY and HOU are grabbing the top prospects, what are we really working against? I'd say Hurts is the only one that would give a DC heartburn to game plan against. It looks like a window is presenting itself with high end R1 talent all stacking up in the AFC--Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert, Tua, Lamar, Watson, etc. NFC South NO: Dalton? Winston? (They were BAD w/o SP) ATL: Mariota/Ridder TB: Probably looking at a Jimmy G type NFC North MIN: Kirk Cousins CHI: Justin Fields GB: Jordan Love DET: Jared Goff NFC West AZ: Scrappy-Doo LAR: Aged-Arm Stafford SEA: Geno Smith SF: Purdy/Lance NFC East PHI: Jalen Hurts DAL: Dak Prescott NYG: Daniel Jones WAS: Sam Howell That is all. Thanks for visiting.

If Rodgers follows him (or goes to NYJ), how would everyone rank the NFC QBs? Hurts Stafford Dak Kyler Cousins D Jones Geno?? It's pretty crazy how much of a QB wasteland it could be and quick. Best be the team to find one sooner than later.

2 firsts (2023, 2024) 2 seconds (2023 Pick 60, 2025) 1 fourth (Pick 111) Gross-Matos Matt Corral A $50,000 Alinea Gift Card A years supply of Portillos, Lou Malnatis, & Pequods Tepper low key buys West Loop condos for any players still renting

I thought this was gonna be a Tanner McKee thread by the title haha

It's definitely scenario driven, but I agree pick 3 or 5 are the ideal targets and would be a tad less value wise. It's hard to believe CHI stays put not having their 2nd rounder and needing both DL & playmakers for Fields. Eferblus needs to show some improvement year 2. He needs players. Question is--is it a HOU swap or Indy trade? We should hope it's the HOU swap. With that: 1 HOU - Young/Stroud/Levis 2 CHI - Anderson/Carter 3 AZ is the first trade target to leap Indy, if we can't manage, then if the guy we like is still on the board at 5, we simply call SEA 4 IND - Young/Stroud/Levis 5 SEA -- You call them if we can't figure it out with AZ and the QB we like is there.

Fields has a big issue in the pocket he has still yet to fully correct. When he needs to ditch his first read, there is a visible delay in his next look. And it's long enough that you see that he's still deciding to run or throw to the next read, giving the DL an extra half second to get to him. Big reason for his sack numbers beyond CHI's OL. I think that's what other GMs saw to. He seems smart though and has acclimated to the NFL playbook & overall in-game speed, but it's that processing time (not processing in itself) that is a big knock IMO. Regarding OSU's offense: Day has described his offense as an adjustable one. Will never forget Fitzmagic on PMT (I think) earlier this year, and he described the OSU system and other college ones perfectly. It's not gimmicky, it is simply tailored to the signal caller more than the signal caller is installed within it. Because of that, QBs in college don't learn how to create and throw to the open receivers. They're not throwing guys open and creating plays, they're not learning proper risk/reward as a passer. You gotta push it, even at the risk of your stat sheet and TD:INT ratio. Too many of these QBs care about their numbers and play it safe. Stroud seemed to be on the more safe side during the early season, but was pushed to do the latter and proved he could indeed create. DId it in 2021 and 2022, it wasn't just the UGA game and his future star receivers. He also has really sound mechanics, and was committed as a passer. It's not that he can't run but he committed to becoming a great passer first. I appreciate that a ton. And he's got legs to use, and you know, they don't have a ton of mileage on them either. Stroud has so much to like IMO.

Gene Steratore confirmed on Pat McAfee that he would've called 2 holds on the Chiefs on that final play. By textbook, hould've been offsetting. Also admitted the Hilton PI was not warranted. That game should've gone to OT. Damn shame. One thing is for sure--that crew is relegated to Panthers games next year lol.