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Bottom line--I think most of us thought we were at least getting a Delhomme-lite/Hasselback level guy and for what we paid, it wasn't anything too bad. He had shown in his career to be adequate. Not a complete mess, but he showed very little ability to even sustain a field goal level drive. We experienced something much worse than expected, he couldn't throw basic out routes or consistently arc over lineman. At least he got Rhule canned more quickly than expected. A 5th rounder is nothing, he is gone, Rhule is gone. Let's get the sanitizer.

I don't know where you've been then. He was one of the most hyped guys along with Tyler Van Dyke, Levis and Stroud going into the CFB season. Both Richardson and Van Dyke deflated their stock to start the year. Van Dyke never recovered. Richardson had some nice moments but as a passer has been spotty to say the least; his physical traits are what are propping him up.

At day's end, Richardson possesses a higher ceiling than any other QB in the draft. If we get a coach that wants him, and is committed to developing him, we should get him and none of us should be mad about it.

So we hate all QBs in the draft yet are mad we aren't getting a top pick to select on of these QBs we hate. Got it.

The stranger dynamic are those that get mad at losing the tankathon are often the one claiming these QBs all suck and none are worthy. Misery loves company.

Alrighty so Houston, Bears, Cleveland, Seattle (via DEN), JAX, PIT, DET (via LAR), & LVR could all be picking ahead of us. Coud we be pick 7-12 again? Smelling like it!

Hackett may be the biggest non-college hire coaching bust in quite some time. I've never seen such a consistently awful team before. And to think they went all in with this roster. Good grief lol

Penix post-game interview:

The Texans are so bad but damn is it hard to ignore how potent Miami's offense is. They are looking like the most unstoppable in the league. Would personally love a Tua v. Hurts SB. Bama Backup vs. Starter. The storylines that could unfold with PHI v. MIA would be wild. Two teams that went with the QBs with question marks, made the big trades for star WRs, drafted WRs high, built big lines. Just love how those two squads have come together.

He's at least at Kevin Kolb status. Can he make it to a Cassel? Only time will tell.

If he keeps churning up games like today, I'm all for it.

Looking pretty fantastic today

Looking damn good to start today.

God I love Chinn

10000% AZ is the team I would least want to be a fan of. Stuck with Kyler and no cohesive team in sight, a coach likely elsewhere, one of the oldest rosters in the league, just crap all around. I'd rather be a Panthers fan lol

I agree on the top-10 overall comment. Addison & Johnson are awesome at WR, Carter at DL most of the time, but it's pretty thin with the tier-1 talent. Not a big Bijan fan, same w/Anderson. Not a really top heavy draft. No legit 3-down DLs (Maybe Murphy, but Hutch/Walker/Thib are above all these guys), no runaway plug in LTs, no stellar DBs like the past few drafts (Ringo is alright but not Sauce/Horn/Surtain level), big question marks on QBs.

Ward still looked pretty good yesterday, I'm thinking he may want to stick around another year and boost his stock. He's young and has some growing he can do. WSU could be a Pac-12 contender next season. But Penix, wow, I've been wary but he's getting hard to ignore:

Oh for sure that's a biggie, I'm more hyperbolizing & speaking to pure ability and the fact many can get lost in the stat bloomers their senior/junior years. Scouts have a certain level of arm strength and throw velocity as a must at the end of the day and it can get looked past. Some of the more apparent items that are musts tend to get lost in the online evals. There's a few critical traits (in no particular order): 1-No doubt what's between the ears both on and off the field. Decision maker, understanding the moments and what needs to get done 2-Processing speed, field surveying & progressions 3-NFL level arm -- a noodle simply won't cut it. 4-Accuracy -- If they don't have the rocket, this is the counter balance that needs to be lights out. 5-Intangibles - Hard to really quantify and this is one that can be a bit more subjective

I like Penn Badgley

This^^. Evolving opinions based on evolving play be damned, some just want to bash when the opportunity is given. I've been lurking here and decided to join in on this prospect talk, it's just silly. And now we're dissecting a single throw by Justin Fields lol. We should all want to see ALL of these guys looks as awesome as possible, it's only for our benefit to have some great QBs to choose from. I want Levis to look better, I want Richardson's accuracy to improve, I want Stroud to look absolutely perfect. It's as if some are actually more intent on having hard-lined unwavering stances and being right about it, waiting for the second to say a guy blows. Stroud had some really damn nice anticipation throws today, great moments, had a bad end of game. That's really it. Showed strong ability, lived up to his hype, the D fell apart, and he couldn't will the team downfield and made some mistakes at the end. It doesn't mean he's #1, doesn't mean he's not worth it either.

This is a common problem for many college QBs due to offensive scheming and modern playcalling in college. They aren't even being given the chance to make anticipation throws and they also are being taught into being risk-averse. Fitzpatrick had a phenomenal take on this some weeks back on PMT. They're focused on their stats, not making INTs, and not pushing the ball. They are essentially trained for being risk averse and modern coaching is causing them to lack ability to create plays. Allen and Mahomes cracked the code in the modern age. Stroud's accuracy and anticipation does in fact show the ability to create but he has a problem with pocket hesitation. He had 3-4 absolute NFL-tier beauties today that were anticipation throws downfield. He has a lot to like but there's some QB "gene"/clutchness type questions that he has to start answering.

C'mon Levis!! I can't get over how much skill he leaves on the table. Consistently awful decision making the entire season.

Oh whoops thought you were someone else Varking