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Yeah that's kind of where I was going. Our board may be 1A Walker 1B Mykel ahead of Graham. Don't think it's necessarily a good thing, but he could slip to SF. And not to mention, we have a lot invested in the group of Brown, Robinson, Wharton & Brown II for our 3 DL spots. Not that those guys should be predicating a draft move (they're not world beaters). Really think they're weighing LB on our board.

He has the arm strength you want and they rarely let him use it. Generational talent, agree, haven't really seen it.

He has the HS running back problem. Penn State entirely centered their offense around him and half of his touches were very targeted, designed plays in that lame offense that’s held Allar back. I don’t necessarily see the “wow” with him as a receiver or blocker. If he has a traditional TE volume, I don’t see what separates him from a Tucker Kraft or Sam LaPorta as a prospect. He just got massive volume that it almost distorts his baseline skills. In a perfect world, you get a Jason Witten-esque guy (but that’s the high bar) That being said, he’s still a 1st/high end TE talent, but it’s not this ultimate blue chip some are making him out to be. I just don’t see how someone can place him in that tier but somehow Jeanty will fall out of the top 10. We will see come Thursday…

If they don't think Campbell is an LT, then you don't take him there IMO. You just don't take a guard at 4 overall. Then you look at Membou, but he's a RT and they just signed Moses to man that side. They haven't been as tied to Banks. Walker has been slowly picking up steam with them since some interview w/Vrabel a few weeks ago. Could fit what he's trying to do. They take the talent that elevates the team rather than lock yourself into a higher risk need-based move. That could also be Jeanty IMO. I think he really is THAT coveted this year. Occasionally there are RBs who do warrant that level of consideration and some teams may think that. Then they could easily trade back into the 1st for Conerly/Jackson/Ersery/etc. Jeanty + Conerly ain't a bad scenario for Maye in the slightest.

Seriously though, if today's Breer/McShay/etc. rumors are holding water, we could be looking at: 1-Ward 2-Hunter 3-Carter 4-J Walker 5-Jeanty/Tet 6-?? Jeanty/Barron (Barron has been a rumored surprise scenario) 7-Warren/Banks/Membou/Campbell 8-Are we being gifted Graham in this scenario? And would our FO actually take him or pass on him bc of their infatuation for Mykel Williams? Almost want a thread in itself to get a sense of THAT reaction lol.

I don’t know- I’ve had the Mykel suspicion since January - think we’re pretty much going with him no matter what chaos ensues.

Banks could end up OT1 in this thing. He’s the one that projects as a true LT. him and Conerly. Membou is more RT and the arms may scare teams with Campbelll. So now pick 4 is a wildcard, this draft could go bonkers quickly. May have to make a new mock to just speculate on some craziness happening haha

Also reporting some Campbell uncertainty. Lot's of smoke and distortion starting to billow. But I do buy teams may not be interested in Shedeur.

Well I know you don't want him, that isn't news haha

Ah - you're trying to stay high in R1? Yeah I can understand that sentiment then.

Yeah there's no real pick I'd be disappointed in. There's usually a guy a fair chunk of the fanbase vehemently does not want. Not really seeing it this year and it's just a really solid talent pool of top-70ish guys this year. It's just super light at the top.

I'd say any 2025 capital gained helps. We already have (2) 4ths and (3) 5ths. So whether you gain a 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th, you have more in the bank to package with 57 if we want to move up for a guy we want. And if you gain a high 2026 in the process, it's a solid move. Another context trade: Vikings/Lions interdivisional from 2022: Lions sent 1-32, 2-24, & 3-66 to MIN for 1-12 & 2-46 20 spots with no future pick involved. It was a round two swap and a 3rd added.

Context trade 12 to 6 (Cardinals/Lions) from 2023: Lions trade 1-6 & 3-81 to the Cards for 1-12, 2-34, & 5-168. People need to get out of their mind we're automatically getting a 2nd and future 1st in a trade down.

I'm not so sure that's how teams are looking at it. If it's common knowledge we're landing similar talent value at the spot in the trade down, the offers could simply be light and underwhelming. So the question comes - does Morgan want to trade down even if its not usual value gained? Or would he prefer to stay pat and pick who would be similar value as who you get in that trade down spot?

Interesting note - this is the first draft since 1994 (over 30 years) with no trades at this point in the offseason including 1st round picks. Shows you how much people want to move up aye? lol

In this draft class could be depending on the recipient.

Likely eyeing Jeanty/Hampton/Warren/Loveland Package could be: 20, 85, & their 2026 1st

Could very well be

I’m more in this camp. I’ve come around to him but he’s a 1B. What he won’t be able to change is his athleticism and burst. He just doesn’t have the type that’s going to be a 1A pass rusher for a team. He could definitely fill an important role but no one should be looking in respect to pressures or sack numbers with him. His ceiling isn’t some sky high thing, so I don’t get some of those talking points with him. He’s capped due to his limited athletic ability.

I'm not sure if NO will be as QB aggressive as some assume. They may focus on landing a top line prospect and slow rolling the rebuild for next year. Could see them roll the dice in R3-4 to compete with Rattler, maybe a Howard fit. I think the QB starved team's just take the gamble the Saints don't want Sanders, and target a mid to late 1st pick for a trade up to land him. Still don't think Milroe or Shough are going R1. But I think what may get lost in the trade up talk is about it being QB specific. A top team trying to get over the top could be the juicy trade (or two) that happens in round 1. Something I've flirted with is how aggressive Buffalo could be. They have the ammunition for a big trade up, and I think Golden would pair super well with Coleman. They need to cut to the chase and get playmakers there for Allen. So yeah, love the idea of a BUF/ATL trade where they move up for him. I'm even thinking about LAR getting aggressive for Warren or Loveland. Imagine McVay rolling into 2026 with that added piece for a future QB...

Royals has some stuff to work on, a bit refinement in the route running department. Also some hands issues. Was a gadgety guy, but has the skills to become more.

Noel plays big and physical combined with the short area quickness we need. He knows how to get open versus zone and man..and quickly. For being 5’11 he outplays 6’1 corners and knows how to get the ball. Just a damn quick guy with a super sound game, sharp cuts, can break a big play, and plays the game with supreme confidence. Just love his aggressive nature. He has a blend that is not super common which is the feisty/bursty quick cutting type but he’s very physical with DBs and can matchup outside no problem. He’s not this slot-only type that will shrink in the big leagues, he plays bigger. We also just don’t have that with Coker or XL, he fits them well and can play all 3 spots. Higgins is the ex-basketball prototype at WR that doesn’t always translate. He’s not as refined and there’s more projection needed with him.

They met with Banks a few times. Apparently love Zabel as well. I bet we could lure them with all those picks they have. They’ve been aggressive as hell this season and we have all the FO connections.

Oh look an IP with multiple usernames resurrects a thread where he was talking to himself on 3 accounts. Totally normal.

The one I still think is a juicy scenario is Seattle giving us 18, 50 and something in 2026 for 8. I think Banks is on the table for them (of course Membou if available), and I believe some teams may have Banks much higher. NO, MIA, SF, and more all with OL needs. If they want a legit OT, he may be one they use their sh*t ton of assets on. We could end up with a haul like Ezeiruaku, Noel, Mbow, Sanker…you could do a lot with it.