Bear Hands

3 years?

The Q3 XL touchdown and a few of his Coker throws were what I want to see, and can't even remember if we've seen anything like that from him before. I need to see that again. Time to prove this isn't a roller coaster.

Oh look a win so let's talk about how we don't like eachother lol.

It's a bought-in group of guys. It's just an absolute rollercoaster because our offense is anywhere from league bottom to what you saw today. I still can't quite get a sense of the build, but the players are giving us one hell of a story this season. Every week is a new book.

Still confused

Mendoza is the only QB remaining that I have few questions about. Simpson is solid - nothing that compelling that makes me think he’d be worth it. Sellers ceiling is nice, but his floor could be a never developing “project” type. That Cincy QB I heard about looked pretty bad. Maiava has been looking solid

McMillan is 13th in the NFL in yards but 86th of 89 eligible WRs in catchable ball rate. Let that sink in

No way in hell Drew Lock is worth two draft picks.

Trey Lance got a shot. He couldn't work out in the most QB friendly system imaginable. He then had another club release him after trading a 4th. He's not good, he's not a Danny Jones/Darnold type situation. Same goes for Zach Wilson & Will Levis in my book. They don't cut it - it's not like a guy who's shown good ability but just never had the right situation. They were given shots and busted.

Yeah I thought this was a Ty Simpson thread haha

I've said it before but he's smart in knowing anticipation within a play's design, but he can't see the live-field to properly layer a throw. So many issues.. -Slow, shallow drops that restrict sight lines -Because of this, he can't see the field and gets swallowed up even when an OL holds up -So then he bails when he doesn't need to, and can't properly survey -And also can't put the touch on intermediates enough to produce YAC. Smitty would've gone ham on him if he was catching his balls. Probably gotten a few black eyes in practice already. McMillan was even looking visibly frustrated the past two games. The kid doesn't have it. It's over. It really is. We've given him so much time for how bad he's been. Far longer than Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen at this stage. and edit: Someone else mentioned it but Cam told us who he was that first drive first game. I think Bryce did as well, just the complete opposite of the spectrum. I cannot wait for a guy to just be able to push downfield again. We have weapons to do it with.

I'm not a proponent of Mac or blind to Bama QB omen, but maybe the one who just won a Super Bowl?

Their big point - It’s week 11 and your offense doesn’t have chemistry. You don’t have a passing game. Your QB is simply not working - 29th in catchable balls. Can’t layer an intermediate pass in stride. Fails the eye test, stats test, advanced stats test - all fail. There should be no more questions

With WRs running a 40 with no route or defender in 4.5/or sub, they get 20 yards in roughly 2.25 seconds or less. So they can easily get beyond the sticks and a QB can layer a throw to hit them in stride for a nice vertical gain. We just don't do that.

He makes the 2.7 line because that is the average pocket time to throw for an NFL QB. So yes, you can.

Listened to Brugler a bit this morning on tAFS who always has a bit of tea with midseason scouting. Scouts are viewing 2026 as a 2 QB class right now - Simpson & Mendoza Other notes: Sellers is this lingering "TBD" that could go top-20, but could also stay in school for more NIL..he has options. More refined than AR coming in, but could benefit him to wait. Dante Moore sounds very likely to return to school Stock on Pause: Leavitt and Mateer's injuries put a pause on their assessments Stock Down: Nuss & Allar have fallen off radars with their seasons. Nuss was high on scout lists but things really took a dive this season. Watch for: Jayden Maiava who could be a 2nd type & Brendan Sorsby 3rd/4th (& rising) but he could go back to school and transfer With CLE, NYJ, NO & LVR ahead of us (for now), not likely we land one in R1. Probably looking the vet route and a mid-round flier IMO.

This part of his answer is the most direct shot at Bryce. The Saints were daring us to do anything/everything we could from a vertical standpoint. THey completely sold out on stopping the run in every aspect. Their gameplan showed Bryce ZERO respect...and they were absolutely on point in their gameplan lol.

We're spitballing in the cruddy muck. I'm throwing out names like Stetson Bennett, Jarrett Stidham, lol, you've got Lance, Levis talk, Davis Mills, etc. etc. We're truly scraping anywhere and everywhere for ideas. A crazy indictment for how truly bad he's been.

I just didn't like what I saw still in preseason play. Bennett was the guy I thought looked most capable this preseason of running a starting offense out of any of these league-wide backups.

We lived in empty sets from the gun down the stretch. You can only do that for so long. You need to be able to add some dimensions to an offense. If your QB limits your ability to do so, you've got the wrong guy under center.

Think I'd probably look at Bennett & Sitdham the closest. They could match what we're trying to do a bit better than others. Have the combination real playing time and not being some sad sack of a bust status.

I would take a guy like Stetson Bennet or Jarret Stidham over some of the suggested. Others that could be of interest would be Rattler(don’t think a NO trade is out of the cards given their state) and McKee. Kyler is not happening Lawrence probably not (but you never know) Mac Jones will be the popular one I imagine we get tied to. Hell no to Fields, Lance, Levis, etc Howell and Henicke would’ve been the types to have here instead of Dalton this season.

So, in respect to just experience, position and expectation/contract, our vet "leaders" should be: Defense: Horn, Moehrig, D Brown, Wharton, & Rozeboom Offense: Bryce, Moton, Lewis, Chuba (not playing well, but it's known w/him) - Crazy how we're not hearing much from this crowd (minus DB) Could the general lack of leadership make the team overall feel more relaxed after a win? No one is organizing and leading the groups? Then you have everyone including the depth guys acting more cocky or lazy than they usually do? Could be the case. The offense definitely needs a guy to command the unit during the week. Doesn't seem like a thing Bryce does. Another potentially terrible indictment on him (and Canales especially)

For context, the average NFL player should be around 60.0 on PFF. From my vantage point, the team was performing alright. Good enough blocking, receivers getting open, front-7 staying fairly stout. The Saints committed to stopping the run and dared us to pass with very simple looks most QBs should be able to carve out. But alas, the QB couldn't produce drives ending in points and the secondary eventually leaked from needing to hold the line all game. I wonder how Horn falling down on the huge play impacted his grade.

Trevor has accuracy problems that really stall the Jags, even when they're running well. The people frustrated with Bryce would be going crazy once they have to consistently watch Trevor. We'd need someone else on staff to help him than this DC/Idzik pair. Not sure their system really benefits Trevor at all. That being said, if they're willing to deal, he fits the prototype of the comeback/project type that people have enjoyed watching. Would be a big $$$ hit, unsure if we're the right destination but could be interesting.