Bear Hands

We haven't had the Browns, Texans, Broncos, or Eagles on the schedule so the Seahawks game is going to be a huge test. A test to see if this offense is simple a bad one that had a few good weeks. That defense is fierce. Huge test for our young crew. The Bucs have been a roller coaster like us, but I think Bucky, Evans and Godwin being back is a slow burn, they may be finding a delayed rhythm. They've had some bad weeks but it'll be hard to tame their arsenal. If we can win 1 of 3 and end 8-9, I honestly wouldn't be mad. 9-8 and miss the playoffs, not terrible dissapointed, 9-8 and get that 4 seed, then, we hope we don't embarrass ourselves in January.

We were in the lead by a score 17-10 late in the 4th. Once the Saints tied it up, we had the chance for a GWD. We were in control and handed it to them on each side of the ball, coaching, players, all of the above.

For me, it boils down to who has issues that are more limitations/restrictive than surmountable/correctable. And with that said, it is Bryce. It doesn’t discount he’s been good a few times this year, relative to what we’ve seen. But there’s certain things he can’t change, and it limits what the offense can do. And the impact is just way too much for my liking. Sure, I’d love to bring in Jesse Minter and find a McDonald/SEA approach, but Canales doesn’t seem entirely unflinching in his ways. He seems open enough to adjustments. Evero, I don’t dislike him to the extent that I see but get the frustration. A big problem is still our personnel and some of his playcalling, but we’ve seen much worse. (Trgovac). My philosophy is not who shows me the most at their best, but who shows me the most at the worst. And Bryce’s worst has been indescribably bad with so little flashes; for as nice as it would be to see a redemption arc out of bust status.

fug me nvm then haha

Still not a fan, still think we're kind of stuck though.

Win 2 of the next 3 games, we are in. Doesn't matter which ones.

I would like Jesse Minter and to follow a Chargers type model. I'm impressed with that defense like crazy this year. Tuli is off the chain. Shed ourselves of the Seattle discard pile.

No. That’s why you have a designated sneaker, every Sunday. Someone outside of Dalton should be doing it in practice. If not, huge indictment on Dennis Morton.

That’s the thing— it shouldn’t be embarrassing. By not attempting it with Bryce in the first place is already the embarrassing part. Get Tremble, Evans anyone out there to do it ffs

This is week the entire team is disappointing…they will get coal for Christmas and their candles samurai sworded off their menorahs.

When it comes down to it, I’m fairly confident we can find an upgrade at HC, QB, DC and GM if we wanted to try yet again. Oh and Brandon Staley absolutely owns Canales now.

Why on gods green earth are the Panthers the only team in the league without a sneak strategy? You don’t need your QB1 to do it, but if you have a 1/2 yard to go, it is an unspoken strategy that every team has their designated sneaker play. How in TF do we not? That is all

WOOOOOOW

An interesting wrinkle to catchable balls.. Bryce has in fact jumped to #2 in deep-ball catchable rate, but is still #31 overall in pressure catchable ball rate, #23 in clean pocket catchable ball rate, and #32 in blitzed catchable ball rate. No matter the depth of field. Overall. #28 in clean pocket completion %. McMillan is also low as he's ranked #73 in rankable receivers in overall catchable balls...and he takes up a 26% team target share. Now here's the interesting note - McMillan's target share jumps crazy to 51.6% of our deep balls (Where Bryce's rate boosts to #2). It's telling me they do have a bit of a connection developing for the deeper throws. That seems just like a mutually beneficial situation happening. Good. Next step is you look at the volume, and yep, he's throwing likes a half of the classified deep balls as others. Sooooo...a stretch of deep completions bumps him up more impact-fully than others. Not discounting anything, there's progress, improvement on the deep ball, just good to know that context. Buuuut as noted, Bryce's rate is consistently still league floor for everything except deep ball where McMillan has over half the team targets. So he's improved with Tmac, which has bumped up his deep ball game. There's till big issues is his intermediate game and play outside against zone defense - that's the same/has never improved, always around #25-32 since year 1. So time to maintain the deep rhythm and keep proving more people wrong. Would be fun to see improvement and more wins.

Yeah I'll concede some about the Rams game-- it's relative to a few degrees. To what we've been accustomed to with Bryce, historically at the QB position w/the franchise, and recent play around the league. Where he's been consistent with are 2 particular instances - crossers (mainly to Coker at the Y) and extended routes where he's been able to roll out and step up to hit McMillan (twice on a post, once on a go). He can also have some good vision with enough time in the seams, but its still limiting with his height. He still hasn't shown much touch in the pocket for my liking. For example, when he's hitting guys outside against zone (I don't think he'll ever be that great in this regard) his balls are just so flat. Which is why I don't fly with the Brees comparisons. His balls in the pocket from 3 or 5 step are always kind of these duds, don't have the zip you want, don't get there quick enough to have a guy work in space. Brees could chip away against teams playing zone with good zip in the short outside game, only to skirt around eventually to find a guy deep. Bryce can do half of that, but his short/intermediate game is still pretty limited. Will be interested to see how it progresses.

If I'm being honest, I still have no idea what to think of Bryce. And the uncertainty/divide in how to think of him only further shows why everyone is in a bit of a tough spot (fans, the team, heck, Bryce himself) He's had: 3 non-consecutive stellar games this year (DAL, LAR, ATL-2) - no disputing this 2 games where he initially looked terrible and then turned it around (AZ, MIA) - Both started so bad but he eventually came around. 6 where he was just really bad and difficult to watch. What we've been used to and was as recent as Thanksgiving on National TV. 1 where he didn't need to do much and we won handedly (ATL-1) - I think what a lot comes down to - Most fans REALLY don't like the fact that he has insurmountable physical limitations, so when he's bad, it feels like the pit of misery. Being stuck with a guy with no real elite physical traits where the team needs to be near perfect. It's just like "Ugh we're stuck with this shrimp dick?" He only very recently pulled together a game where he showed off franchise ability. I just need to see more. Nothing has come together but we've finally seen a flash. Took a while, but the Atlanta and Rams games were what I want to see. Hope it can continue. The duds just hit you like a frying pan to the head.

That's a fairly big loss, especially for squaring up against our interior. First things first, we better freaking beat the Saints

That's what I'm talking about

We gotta hit em hard in the nuts.

Just WIN Let's say TB beats ATL, we beat NO, we play each-other both at 8-6 We win the 1st head to head, that's 9-6 cats, 8-7 TB Then TB loses to MIA 8-8, we upset SEA, win the division

umm...

C'mon NO

Yeah they have a tough schedule, injuries pile up, teams are thus stacking the box against JT. They were super fun to watch those first 10 weeks though. Pittman, Pierce, Warren have been playing great, but they've come down massively. We'll see how those AFC wildcards shake out. That's going to be a tight battle with BUF, IND, HOU, LAC, KC. Think it could be BUF/HOU/LAC with NE/PIT/DEN/JAX as the division winners.

If Indy scrapes by today that would be something else. But man, everything has been going against them the past few weeks even though they've still played fairly well. Steichen's done a great job but they've hit the brink.

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