MartyClemons

Not trying to pick on you… you’re not the only one to mention it. But I don’t really understand the frame comment. Stroud weighed 214. Only 10 more lbs than Young despite being almost half a foot taller. Just think it’s weird no one questions his frame. Anyway I’ve thought highly of Stroud. Feel like most of his criticisms have been things like ‘he’s from OSU and OSU qbs stink’ or ‘his receivers are too good. More than being Stroud specific. So the GA game didn’t change much for me in how I viewed him.

The Bears don’t have pick 32 d/t trading for Claypool. So I’m sure they consider DJ equivalent to first round value. Also kinda depends on how we end next year. Rookie QB with not much around him on offense. Our defense still needs some pieces. In a weak division we could make a run, or we could also end up back in the top 10 next year.

This. Idk that I’d hate it. He’s one of the few prospects I’d actually like watching in workouts tho to get a better feel for his pass catching. He’s obviously huge, solid athlete and made some impressive catches. But his low productivity raises some questions and I don’t think you can blame it on the offense

And open himself up to discovery? Not going to happen lol

Yeah leaving the scene while your friends die in a crash you contributed to is an awful look. And that combined with his lie make it pretty likely he was hiding something. I’d have some serious reservations about drafting someone after that.

I’m not completely sold in Fields as a good QB. But I’d be okay with Fields and then someone like Kincaid.

I don’t think it’s salt. I think it’s just being realistic. We all know Corral had talent coming out of college. He fell d/t a combo of injuries and reports of some mental health stuff. I don’t know where he’s at in terms of mentality. So simply pointing to his physical tools isn’t telling us much

I’m really glad Joe Burrow was able to transfer to LSU at the end of his college career since Ohio St QBs never pan out apparently

I’m not really sure what to make of Lance yet… but he played 1 game in pouring rain.

I mean I wouldn’t hate it in R3 or 4. But if draft him, he spends most of next off season on sidelines. Then what’s our position heading into 2024? We’re not going to not pursue top QB talent Orr declare it a need because of Hooker who would’ve yet to see the field.

I think we’ve played ourselves out of that spot. If Chicago decides to trade down I’m guessing they’ll still target Anderson/Carter or someone closer to top 5.

Depending on the haul for Fields I’d consider it. Trade Fields, use extra pick to draft Skoronski to help improve their line

I’m not sure we’re able to trade up at this point

Trey Lance went 6/10 for 72 yards in the FCS championship Stroud put up 350 yards and 4 tds and hung 40+ on a vaunted GA defense without his #1 WR and the #2 WR also getting hurt in the game. Plus Lance was known as a project who only really played one year of college football at a lower level. And he played like one game this year prior to getting hurt. It’s too early to declare him a failure.

In order to move up for Goff Titans gave up # 15, two 2nds, 3rd and the next seasons 1st and 3rd in order to move up from #6 to #2. WAS gave up #6 and their next 2 years first round picks for RG3

These two are unreal

Stroud has looked very good against a very good defense so far

I find this need to passionately argue about Darnold in 100 threads weird. He had a nice game. He’s been decent over the last 4. We know from last season that making major proclamations based off 4 games is a little premature. We got 3 more games to collect data on and judge him.

Eh. If we end up in 8-12 range I wouldn’t care if we roll the dice on Levis. Also looks like the guy from Stanford is rising up the board. Tho I haven’t watched him at all this year. Missing out on Young is not ideal. But if we decide not to go QB there’s plenty of players at positions of need that have potential. We could add to the O-Line with Skoronski, boast our Dline with Bresee, or add a playmaker in Johnston/Addison, or a TE in Mayer. Also a few CBs ranked in the 8-15 range. tbh the worst part of dropping might be there’s always one or two big names that drop into that late first early 2nd range.

Haskins had substance abuse issues. Not really sure that’s a reasonable comparison unless you know something about Stroud we don’t

I don’t think we should necessarily be targeting a position. We need talent. I’m pretty onboard with going BPA R2 as likely some guy who should been top 20ish pick will fall for whatever reason.

I guess it depends on their sense of whether he wants to stay. I said before I think fans here have overrated our defense due to a combo of bad QBs we’ve faced and our offense isn’t exactly getting into any shootouts. But I don’t think we’re far from being a solid defense and if we miss out on Stroud, I think an Anderson/Burns edge rush combo would cause nightmares for QBs

It feels silly to blame all our offensive struggles on bad QB play, while hyping a defense that has played: Jimmy G Jacoby Brissett Jameis Daniel Jones As 4 of our first 5 games

This. We lack talent, especially at QB. Firing Rhule doesn’t do nothing for me as it only increases our odds of possibly winning 5-6 games and picking 6th.

At this rate I’m content on firing Rhule after the season. We look like a 2 or 3 win team. Maybe for the best