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I think there is some gold in the mid to late 4th round. I would be 100% on board with trading back from #39 if we were able to pick up a late 3rd or early mid round 4th to add to our war chest. Here is how I'd love to see it play out: #1 - Young or Stroud - no preference 2nd - trade back towards the end of the round and pick up Derek Hall (OLB/DE) 3rd (93) - Eli Ricks (CB) later 3rd - early 4th from trade - Mims, A.T. Perry, Rasheed Rice, or Cedric Tillman 4th (114) - Luke Schoonmaker (TE) 4th (132) - Colby Wooten (Big DE) 5th (145) - Vorhees (G) if he drops this far, can't pass up solid talent or Tyler Steen / Jalen Duncan to shore up our tackle depth

Perfect 3rd or 4th round pick. I still think we need to trade back in the second and pick up an extra 3rd. Target Derek Hall, Eli Ricks, and Schoonmaker

Chinn more likely than not will be assigned to the TE most of the time. I don't see how DJAX just seamlessly recovers from an Achilles injury with no side effects. Unless we address the corner position in the draft you will be seeing more CJH than you'd like and Horn will ne locked on the each team's #1 receiver. Looking at the LB's coming out of college, size isn't the be all end all from what it used to be. In addition, we brought in some HOG MOLLYS on the front that will hold up the linemen and allow for linebackers to run fast and free. Chinn and Frankie are the same basic size. 6'3 230 ish for Frankie and 6'3 220 for Chinn. YGM is going to be more valuable from a warm body standpoint on game days than many think. He is big enough to spell at the DT/DE than some other players. I haven't run down what a game day 53 would look like, but I would value a player who can fill multiple positions if and when people get injured. If we could trade back in the second to around 50 and pick up another 3rd round pick I think we would be golden! I'd target Campbell (ILB) out of Iowa, Ricks (CB) out of Alabama, and AT Perry out of Wake with our first three picks. Our later picks could be used on an additional linemen on both sides. I like Wooten out of Auburn and Richards out of UNC. Maybe stealing KJ Henery and Davis Allen out of Clemson would be a win in my opinion. I am smitten with the TE out of Michigan Luke Schoonmaker, but I'm pretty sure he will be picked up before we hit our needs. Long story short, With Brown, Tuttle, Williams, and McCall up front our LB's will have room to run free and make tackles.

Breese was a second round pick, ended up being worthy of first overall about 4 years into his career. Haskins was an underachieving boozehound (as a pro). Drank himself into a grave and out of a career, sad but a fact. Fields played for the Bears the past two seasons with NO weapons or offensive line. You put Fields in our current situation as a rookie and he would have passing numbers similar to his college career. All he has had was a washed out offensive line, an undermotivated Allen Robinson for 8-10 games, and a host of JAG's as the Bears tanked. If the Panthers drafted him two years ago I bet Rhule would still be our coach. (Thank GOD for unanswered prayers) The OSU bashing is not legit. I'd take Goff, he brought a team to a Super Bowl. Only one teams wins every year. Being in the hunt is a level of success I'd be ok with. Was Delhome a bust because he made one and lost? The same with Cam? Not every QB is going to be Mahomes or Burrow. You put the team in a position to make a playoff run and let it all shake out however it plays out.

Anyone who wants ODB around our team let alone the #1 pick in the draft needs to look at this video at 9 minutes in to see how nice the security were to him, then at about 14 how selfish and obnoxious he truly is. So sorry dude that you are put off that a PLANE FULL OF PEOPLE are put out because of YOU. He can be someone else's problem and I if we play him, I hope JC Horn embarrasses his smug ass. The man has little to no character. I never want him to use Bank of America, eat at Bojangles, and from here on out is banned from consuming sweet tea.

If we weren't so short on receiver I would totally be down grabbing a corner with our 2nd. If not, we need to find a good vet to fill in for either CB or WR (or both).

Here is how I would build it.... Trade down in the second to pick up an extra late third....

I would take Brandon Cooks and Texans eat 50% of his salary to swap picks, and a 3rd.

They can keep Allen Robinson. He sucked that last two years. Van Jefferson is more intriguing.

Lamar is too expensive, wants a full guarantee, and is a twist of the knee or butt hurt away from being a worse contract then Russel Wilson. Trading DJ hurts, but if we cut Shaq, Efflin, STO, and Gonzalez we will have 43M of cap space this year. We could roll with DJ Shark, Paris Campbell, TMJ, and Shi at WR and still have cash to fill out the roster with mid range vets.

The max I'd offer for pick #3. If we give up any more may as well go to #1. Panthers get : #3 Cardinals get: #9 #93 #132 2024 #1

Honestly, with all the flaws from each of the top 4 QB prospects, I'm fine with any of them. The more and more I try to analyze the situation the more apparent the need for a heady bridge QB. We need a QB who will show our draft pick how to be a pro, and make our QB earn the starting job. I know it sounds cliché, but that's what we need. Frank and mostly Josh can be the teachers the vet needs to set the example. Cam, through his adversity at Florida and JC learned how to put a team on his back and willed them to the national championship. One aspect of Cam's game that I feel is often overlooked is his leadership abilitly. He took over the personality of the team on both sides of the ball. He was a grinder. If Richardson or Levis have that grinder mentality I'm all about either of them. As critical as many were of Levis last year, he didn't gripe. The dude is confident, just hope he isn't Zack Wilson like cocky. Give me someone like Minshew or Heinicke who can serve as a solid #2 for years but will not back down to earn the job as our bridge QB.

FA - Wish List QB - Minshew WR - Woods LB - Drue Tranquill DL - Morgan Fox (try a do over) TE - Austin Hooper (on the Cheap only) Resign: Bozeman, Franklin (RFA), and Foreman (if reasonable) Draft: QB, DE, CB, DT, OG, TE, RB Targets: QB: Stroud, Hooker, McGee DE: Foskey, Hall, McDonald DT: Benton, Smith, Cameron Young CB: Forbes, Ricks, Kelly, Williams, Brents OG: Jarred Patterson TE: LaPorta, Davis Allen, Payne Durham RB: Evans, Roschon Johnson, Kenny McIntosh Look to see if he falls: Noah Sewell

He is a sexy mutha fugger. All those Selwyn Ave South Park Stratford Wives would hike up those tennis skirts in celebration.

I think Matt Ryan is the best comparison to DC I can think of in recent memory. Matt Ryan arguably played his best years of football from season 9 - 12 before his play fell off a cliff. If the contract is structured right, I could see value in giving DC a 4 year deal. I believe Carr would like there to be some kind of out structured into the deal if the fit isn't right given how things ended with LV. If that is the strategy, I could see us pulling a trade back to fill out some holes with better depth, or getting a rookie DE like Tyree Wilson or Myles Murphy

If we nab a FA QB, who are your top 3 options? 1. 2. 3.

Get Minshew and then I'd be ok with drafting AR15 or even not drafting a QB. Let Matt Carrol, Gardner, and another heady vet fill out the QB room. Minshew had some Jake Delhomme to his game. I think given protection and a focus on the intermediate passing game he's thrive in the right system.

That's exactly what he did. This entire ordeal tells you everything we all now know regarding Matt Rhule. Shocking how his salary goes from 5.1 million in year one to over 12 million the last year. Coincidence? From Panther's Wire..... If the contract with the new club includes a substantial salary increase in new contract years, the Commissioner shall use the following as a guideline to determine the reasonableness of those increases: (i) if annual compensations is scheduled to increase by 20 percent or more for the new contract years, the prior club’s annual offset, if that club is entitled to an offset, shall be calculated based upon the employee’s average annual compensation during the entire term of contract.”

He is a free agent this year. No way he supplants Hurts unless Hurts holds out for a new deal

Stroud is the only draftable QB for us in the this draft. Honestly, I would rather go get someone like Gardenr Minshew as a place holder to battle with Corral for this upcoming season than force a pick, let alone a trade for Levis or AR15. If we cannot get Stroud for a reasonable price; remember we still need an edge rusher, MLB, TE, and CB, we should trade back in the first and acquire an additional 1st for next year. If we had two first round picks next year we could easily trade up towards the top of the draft with a Godfather package while having enough cap space to build out our roster holes with Free Agents. I'm more sold on a group of Caleb Williams or Drake Mayes than I am of Stroud, Young, Levis, Richardson.

I agree with you. When people look at QB's, if a QB is anything but ELITE, they are a bust. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with being mid if you have the team build around them. With the way QB's are eating up cap space, I'd rather pay mid level salary at QB for a QB who falls around #12 - 20 in QB rankings if that means I have two top level players at other positions of impact. Not every QB is Mahomes or Burrow.