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Both of those guys likely will end up as coordinators before they are head coaches again. I would take either as an OC

Does anyone think that Wilks would return as DC not head coach? I know it may sound "insulting" to him, but let's be honest, outside of Carolina he has not had too much stability. Arizona, Cleveland, and Missouri before he had the opportunity to come back home as a DB coach not even a coordinator. Depending on the amount of openings he may or may not get another chance at anything above that position. He's not going to Denver. Anyone with a brain will stay far away from Indy. I really don't think he'd be too keen to return to Arizona. My preference to WIlks being the HC is because he has the locker room. Finding that young offensive coach is great, but the young coach needs a solid voice in his ear. Ron Riveria said the same thing as he began his career. DO you think that Wilks would see that as a demotion if he was asked to mentor a young HC and be the DC?

Yeah I must have been so wordy that you realized that is what I didn't say.

Most likely outcome: HC: Wilks - He has the locker room. Wilks has respect around the league. Honestly I think his hiring could depend on what kind of staff he can assemble. NFL coaches have these things lined up prior to accepting jobs. It's not Wilk's first rodeo, he has likely been sending feelers around shortly after it appeared that he has earned a legitimate shot at the HC gig. Tepper could roll the dice and go for a splash hire, but our franchise needs goodwill and stability. Looking at our potential schedule for next year I could easily see us winning 10 games. #KeepPounding is important to the Carolinas and I think Tep has realized it finally. No one in the organization knows what that means better than Wilks. OC: Ben Johnson (QB coach Eagles) or Shea Tierney (QB coach Giants) - Looking at the growth of both Daniel Jones and Jalen Hurts and the offensive turnaround of each team over the past year I would start with these two. Tierney has been with Dabol since he was at Buffalo and our ties from Carolina North should give us a good read on how capable he could be as an OC. The Eagles offense is a dream for Carolina. If Steichen stays with the Eagles Johnson could really build his case to be a future HC by taking the Carolina job. QB: Darnold/Carrol/Tanner McKee - I have made no effort to hide my affinity for Uncle Rico/Mustache Minshew, but honestly I see a whole lot of similarities to him and Darnold. Additionally, Sam has shown growth and had more natural talent than Uncle Rico. I see a lot of Jake Delhome in Minshew but I just don't see it happening. Additionally, I think hitting on a first round QB is pretty dicey if you don't have the opportunity to pick the first QB off the board. The odds of finding a Big Ben, Eli, Payton, Mahomes, or Burrow who you know out of college can be a steady QB presence for 10 years are pretty rare. Darnold has shown stability behind a solid O-line. I'd rather try to see what his growth could be when he is not hampered by the incompetence of Adam Gase and Matt Rhule over meh college options with just as many questions marks. Sammy D is well liked by his teammates and has a pretty good rapport with DJ Moore. We could sign Sam to a two year deal for back up money allowing us to build our team without shipping off draft capital. If done correctly, we could get a few year like the Titans have had recently. I'd take that over the mess that has been the last 5 years. Out of the college QB's I think Stroud is the best long term prospect out of the group, but there is not miles and miles of separation between draft eligible QB's. We are not going to get Stroud or Young. Levis is the question mark, but I would not mortgage out future draft capital to roll the dice on him. Tanner McKee has first round potential but was stuck on a bad team. Looking at our team needs at DE, DT, LB, RB, and CB I think using our first pick on a QB with question marks rather than a more developed player at other impact positions would be a better use of draft capital knowing that we likely can have a steady game manager QB available with Darnold or another veteran free agent. Here is a link of all first round QB's drafted since the Super Bowl era began. I think the list is pretty eye opening when you are not 100% sold on a prospect being the QB of the future. He could be had as a late 3rd or 4th round pick. Matt Coral is a big question mark. I think he will develop into at worst a serviceable back-up. No one has seen or heard much from him, but I have a feeling he has been hitting the weights and film knowing that his next opportunity may be his only opportunity. Looking at our potential schedule next year with us playing the NFC north and AFC South I could see us getting 5 wins from that group. Us going 4-1 or 3-2 in our division in not a reach if we stay healthy. That would put us at or over .500 before playing wither the 2nd or 3rd place NFC east, NFC West, and AFC East teams (Cowboys/Giants, Seattle/Rams, Pats/Dolphins). Winning two of those three would put us around the 10 win mark. While that isn't the SuperBowl, I'd be over the moon for those results. Lock up DB and BB, clear out the bad contracts from last year, and then make a move up the draft board/go big after a QB if necessary. Knowing Fitty and AGM#55 I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up moving down the draft board to get more picks to build depth.

Looking back, was Joe Brady really a failure? Our offense was more productive that it was at the beginning of the season with less talent. Rhule micro-managing everything, leaving when Brady is working in lock step with Cam - then firing him as he is game planning was a horsepoo move. Someone with a philosophy like Greg Roman would be perfect. You know Wilks will hire someone as an assistant who has experience so the OC could be progressive with an old head assisting him. Pep Hamilton would be a great choice. Heck Brian Johnson would be pretty cool if you could pair him with an experienced OC coach like Mike Shula.

You be smart for the future.....

I'd be calling every younger free agent hoping they are in pretty good physical shape. Vernon Hargraves, Kevin King, Corn Elder, or Xavier Rhodes / Jimmy Smith if we are looking for a vet.

I'm willing make my final stand on Minshew Mountain. I effin love that guy. I

We just need to sign Gardner Minshew II. Draft a stud DE in the top 10. Fill out the holes with our other picks. Him and Matt Corral in a QB room would be a blast. Our offense needs some spice and flavor, this dude has the recipe to at least make the Panthers fun again. I really hope he starts for Philly this week and our scouting department is all over the tape. I know I'll be glued to that game if he's playing. Aside from the hype that his personality brings, the QB's coming out this year are not impact QB's. It's going to take a few seasons for any of them to develop into what he is capable of. We aren't getting Young or Stroud. Levis is not it. Hooker is about the same age as GMII without the years of pro experience. Long story short, most college QB's outside of a clear #1 such as Burrow or Lawrence are a roll of the dice. None of the 2023 draft class is worth what it would take to make a boss move to into the top 3 or 5. 2023 Free Agent QB's - Lamar Jackson - He's not leaving Baltimore Tom Brady - He's not coming here Teddy Bridgewater - nope Baker Mayfield - nope Sam Darnold - We know how this will go, maybe as a back-up if Corral has no future Daniel Jones - Basically Sam Darnold 2023, hard pass Jimmy Garoppolo - The QB equivalent of the missionary possession; no risk, can get the job done, but after a while everyone has your game figured out. Jacoby Brissett - One part Teddy B mixed with a garnish of Jimmy G This is the hill I am willing to die on until Uncle Rico rescues me with deep pass sailing past our mountain of futility. Keep Wilks, bring in Frank Reich as OC or throw a bag of money at Shane Steichen so GMII can come in knowing the offense.

That was Carolina Panther Football. (minus that last awful TD) It's about dang time!!!!! Hop on the Wilks wagon ya'all !!!!!

I see your logic, and I guess that I could amend my support for Wilks with the caveat that he is able to recruit a young and upcoming offensive mind to be the OC and a great teacher as our QB coach. You can't fairly judge him by keeping MacAdoo-doo on staff this year. By the time Rhule was fired, the Panthers (according to many) were already stuck with him. In my opinion, weather or not Wilks gets the full time hire will be dependent on who he can get committed to being part of his staff. The modern NFL coach is more CEO than decision maker and is only as good as those who surround him. My thought is that there are some really good pieces in play here. Our O-line has improved vastly with Campen, our Special Teams coach is great, Al Holcomb had done very well at DC. The public is showing more faith in the team post-Rhule. At what point do you objectively weigh out how to continue to build on current success rather than basically start from scratch?

To me, last night's game shows that Macadoo - doo is more of the problem than Baker was. His scheme is predicable, out of date, and he basically never gave Baker a chance to cook. He was the same way with PJ, and I imagine it will end up like that with Sam. Wilkes needs to get this job. If he can finish with 7 wins after cleaning up the mess from Rhule and Macadoo-doo he is a legit NFL coach. Provide us with a competent OC, and we are in the playoffs next season.

What a Shmuck!!!!! Hope he falls the wrong way on an ear of corn.

I'm waiting for Tepper to take over the Nebraska collective, donate money to all competing programs, and or purchase property next to Rhule's new house just to keep 7 years of construction running at all hours of the day just to get back at him.

I would go with Jefferson (WR TCU) if we are not 100% sold on Stroud or Young. Our beefed up line, two stud WR's, and a solid run game would make it easier to see if Matt Corral is it or not. Honestly, I'd bring Sam back on back-up money. If we can swing it, draft the QB from TCU in the mid rounds as well. You know Fitty is going to be trading back in the second round unless there is a top flight pass rusher available.

People have very short memories. While we were not on the same level of the Patriot's, Chiefs, Steelers, Packers, or Colts in terms of consistency, I feel like we have had very good and entertaining spurts of success. Many people agree that the NFL is built for teams to hover around .500%. Inherently, you are going to encounter years of build up and break down. Here are the Panthers since Fox, and Rivera. The Bills are the rage right now, how long did they go without being in the playoffs? Let's take a look. (Spoiler, it goes all the way back to 1999) The Chiefs from 1999 - 2012 made the playoffs 3 times only winning one playoff game during that time. The 49'ers have made the playoffs 7 times in 22 years. Long story short, consistency is much more rare than it seems. I'm proud of our history. In fact, 2003-2009 and 2012-2017 were some really fun years, even when we didn't make the playoffs. If we have had 12 of 28 successful years where we were either in the playoffs or right there in the mix, I'll take those odds. Heck if you add in 95-97 and 99 we were right at or well above .500% again. 57% of the time we are in the mix. Rhule was a stain on our history, even worse than Siefert, but we will come back. Heck the best thing for our franchise was the Clausen year and the last Siefert year. Shoot we even pulled off a 7-9 record during the Vinny/St. Pierre/Wildcat season. Be a fan and show some faith. The Panther way works. Better than the Lion, Jaguar, Jet, way. #keeppounding 4 life!!!!!!

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I know.... it's not that crazy. Looks like I'm hooked back in.

Falcons - possible win (3-5) Bengals - loss (3-6) Falcons - win (4-6) Ravens - loss (4-7) Broncos - possible win (5-7) Seahawks - win (6-7) Steelers - win (7 - 7) Lions - win (8-7) Bucs - (win? 9-7) Saints - (win 10-7) Honestly, if Baker or Sam get on track this could happen...... Not sure if I'd be amazed or upset. You'd have to wonder if the would constitute a "remarkable" job by Wilks. Thoughts?

Don't we get a dollar for dollar credit for unused cap space? According to OTC, we have .5 million of cap space for 2023. If we get our 10.2 million credit, get Shaq to take a cut or walk, lose Elf, we won't really be in that bad of a spot. If the Saints can make it work after all the Breese extensions, we can make it work. TBT, our Defense would look SOOOOOOO much better if they weren't on the field 70% of each game. That's why they are dropping like flies. They have played the equivalent of 10 games 6 games into the season. If I am a perspective coach, and I have this defense, a potential #1 (at least top 5) pick in the first two rounds, and a winnable division, I'd hop on it. The Jimmy Clausen year was tough to stomach, but worth the run from 2011 - 2019. This might be as ugly as the Vinny/St. Pierre year. Maybe McAdoo can draw up some wildcat formations at the local Radisson!

Honestly, with the current dog and pony show that is the Carolina Panthers I don't think anyone is connected enough to know what's going on. Especially those on Mint St.

Fire Rhule and Snow walks.... that's fine. Let Wilks take over the Defense. I'd love to have him as HC, but I feel that would hurt the D too much. Have Ryan move from QB coach to HC. Make Macadoo earn it on the play calling. If Wilks can turn the D into what they are capable of give him consideration at HC in 2023. It's obvious they are not going to make it to next year, rip off the band-aid.