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I could see a few reasons for the move: 1. Icky is just coming back from being out 2 weeks. BC had been replacing him at LT and Mayes has done a fine job at center. IF Icky has to come out, sliding BC in at LT again keeps continuity. 2. The odds of us resigning Mayes at a cheap(er) rate is much higher than retaining BC. TBH I don't think anyone truly knows what BC's market will be next season. We have roughly 12-13 million of cap space opening up if we let go of Yosh and Corbett. (4 mil and over 8 mill respectively) If we can retain both Mayes and BC for that amount I'd be ecstatic. I'd still draft a developmental swing tackle from a power 5 conference.

I really liked his measurables and potential, but that type of thinking is what has us in the crapper. I looked at his game logs from this year and last. Every time he faces a big time school his numbers are bad. Now the tight end #44 Warren.... that guy would be a perfect addition.

Can we MAYBE focus on some positive..... Brady Christensen, in my opinion, is certainly a key player we need to retain at the end of the season. He is the perfect 6th offensive lineman. He needs to be paid as a top back-up lineman after the season. The guy is so solid and versatile. Anyone else agree? What's the over/under before this post tailspins into the negative?

Could we have the patience to let him sit for a year, maybe year and a half?

You start Dalton for the rest of the year. Everyone is arguing Bryce vs Dalton, but here is my argument. If you have decided that Bryce isn't it, and we have. XL, Coaker, Sanders, and Mingo will not improve more learning along with Bryce's mistakes. While Dalton is old, he is experienced and reliable. He is the new Fitzmagic. Fitzy was 39 when he retired. If he isn't interested go after Gardner Minshew or Jamis Winston. Shoot, you never know, maybe fixed Sam Darnold could be in play. (not really) We have been on a run of red-headed QB's! Trade back from number 1, collect an extra 2nd round pick and grab Drew Allar or even Connor Weigman and have him sit a year or two. Build the defense in FA and the draft. Getting DB back, adding a stud EDGE from the draft and FA depth signings need to happen before we think QB. BC isn't looking half bad at center, AC may want to come back at a discount. I've decided that Icky plays better everyone not named Bryce Young. OL is pretty solid. Got to look for Moten's replacement in the late rounds.

QB play across the League is garbage. Development at the college level is not pro-ready. It's going to take a few years before we see the likes of a draft with (2004) Rivers, Big Ben, Eli, followed by (2005) Rogers, Alex Smith, Fitzmagic, Cassel, Orton, then Romo came out of no where in 2006. We need to build up the entire team so we can fix someone another team lost patience with.

I wonder what the penalty is if we eat 75% of the remaining salary for this season. Would that help us in regards to dead cap? IF that is the case I'd still do it. A sunk cost is a sunk cost. Freeing up $$$ for the future is where it's at.

Call me crazy, but so far Tepper has stayed to the side, our draft is looking promising, and if we hadn't been cursed with injuries we would be in a MUCH better spot. Things are better than last year, period. DC had the stones to end the BY disaster when it needed to be ended. Even if BY ends up starting again at the end of the year, DC showed no one is above the team. Pete Carroll was an extremely underappreciated coach. If the Seahawks weren't such a rival to us back in the day maybe more of us would share that opinion. We are headed in the correct direction. Buffalo, Detroit, Washington, even San Fran had extended periods of struggle before they figured it out. I'd put DC ahead of many of the coaches most of those teams had during their struggles. DC and DM being able to pick their own defensive coordinator might be the missing link for full alignment of the team vision. My 2 cents....

Could this be a sign of Dane Jackson and Caleb Fareley being elevated?

Again, we are down 7 defensive starters, AT, AC, Moten, and are rolling out a 37 year old QB. If were were strength we would be considerably better. There is more here now than last year. The coaching was abysmal last year, and all other times except when Wilkes was in charge. We are going to turn the corner. We may not be the next coming of the Chiefs, but I could see us being close to .500 next year if we are lucky in regards to the injury bug.

If you add Derek Brown, Jordan Fuller, Shaq, a rookie EDGE, and more LB depth via free agency, you could have a MUCH improved defense. The offense is nearly there. You can't go back to Darnold who is going to command 30M +. I'd try to resign Dalton if he is affordable, maybe kick the tires on Minshew who will certainly be released from the Raiders, and draft a QB in rd 2/3 to develop. (Jackson Dart / Garrett Nussimer / Miller Moss ) If we can draft starter quality DT, EDGE, and back up LB's, we will be all right. Resign D. Johnson too, 3 year deal with an out after 2.

I would keep him where he is at for now and pick up his 5th year option. After next season identify a draft pick that can compete with him for his job or Moten's. The kid is only 23. Winner get's LT, loser to RT. Too much potential to give up on him. Worst case, bump him inside after Lewis's contract expires.

Legit, that may be the future with the way football is coached from HS through college. Try to get a 4-3 style front with solid MLB's then fill in with a mixture of speedy CB's and LB/safety style players. I really can't take an offense to anything we do at this point. We are ravaged by injury. By far, the worst injury situation in the league. We have lost a laundry list of starters, not just depth to injury. The only other teams that are close are TB and SF. Proof = https://www.espn.com/nfl/injuries

After the shock, let's think about this pragmatically. He has two years of guaranteed salary and significant draft capital invested in his acquisition. The only hope of saving his career is to sit him down. We have invested a 2023 2nd round picks and a 2024 1st round pick at the WR spot, we have a possible steal with our 2024 4th round pick at TE, and have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the OL. The development of the team cannot trump one player. I'm pretty sure DC has a plan to help him. If it means that he is with the QB coach cleaning up footwork or even getting practice reps that will build his confidence back up at a slower pace, do it. Benching Young doesn't necessarily mean throwing him aside, but it also means he is no longer immune to competition. If Dalton holds the job, which I feel he will, Bryce's reaction to the demotion will be the determining factor for his future. If he is cut loose after the season you know that there were some serious behind the scene issues. Tom Brady elaborated on the current development of QB's recently and is SPOT ON. Pat Mahomes and Jordan Love sat and learned. Gardner Minshew, Baker, and even Sam Darnold took time to recover from youth, lack of development, and poor situations. He can work his way back, but I think we need a veteran for the rest of this year and to push him next year.

We should trade Bryce to Denver in exchange for Zach Wilson. Not that there is hope for either, but why not trade out one busted former top pick for another? Might be the best for both sides. I really don't want to see Dalton get hurt and we are right back at square 1.

Bryce was a mess yesterday...I PRAY it was a one off, but..... we all likely know better. On defense, we basically just swapped our strength for our weakness last year. Last year we were horrible stopping the run up the middle. Last game, they attacked the edge. Welp... Growth, I'm watching for nothing but growth. That is the victory this year.

Things I noticed..... We need a nose tackle. Move Shy into DB's spot and sign Justin Rogers off the Bengals practice squad. 6'2 335lbs. At least he eats up space. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4692185/justin-rogers We need more OLB help... I'm calling both Marquis Haynes and Julian Okwara to see if they'd want to go up to the active roster for 4 games. Our TE depth is depleted. We need a guy who knows's the system and who can block. I'm calling Jacob Hollister back or calling Geoff Swaim. Icky clearly needs someone to chip or help block. Additionally, I will not make Miles Sanders active if he doesn't start running north and south. Give me Boone or Dillon Johnson all day over him.

Lonnie Johnson is an upgrade over Keenan Isaac. I'm surprised they went with Franks over Jacob Hollister. Hopefully Franks knows how to block.

I don't take any decision by the previous offensive coaching staff seriously. New slate this year as far as I'm concerned.

Moton's deal has never been bad if you really look at the final cost of the deal. The team never added money to his deal ala Trent Williams. The deal has given us the opportunity to maneuver cap space since he first signed. Don't get caught up in the cap number. He has started 100 straight games at a high level. That is the type of player we need to pay.

This is the type of player you take a flyer on!!! Put this guy in process blue!!! At worst he can be a top notch ST player and rotational OLB

Blacksheer has a lot more juice than he gets credit for. He looked really, really good when Wilks was the HC. I like him as the current 2a/b over Sanders

If he is hurt I wouldn't be surprised to see him begin the year on IR. There is no relief to cutting him vs keeping him. If there team needs a 4th TE look at Hollister as the option to be kept. He is only getting the vet minimum, which may not necessarily count against the cap. Additionally, he know Canalas's system in and out from being on Seattle for years. The new IR rules allow teams to keep players like Thomas since IR is no longer all year or nothing.

Who do you think will be the biggest surprises on the roster??? 1. Andrew Raym - Looked good today.. Think Moton, Lewis, Corbet, Hunt, Icky, BC, Yosh, Zavala, are the core OL guys. Yosh isn't 100% so I think it makes sense to keep an actual center and Anderson. This allows BC to focus on being a the swing tackle. 2. Jordan Matthews makes the team. Ian Thomas needs to either go the the PUP or get cut. His energy and work ethic is needed on this team. 3. ISM gets cut for David Moore

Let's start a CIVIL discussion with a little POSITIVE tone regarding the possible 53 man roster. Post Jets thoughts: Offense (24) 1st 2nd 3rd 4th QB BY AD RB Chubba Sanders Brooks (PUP) Blacksheer LT Icky Yosh (PUP) LG Lewis BC C Corbett Anderson RG Hunt Mason Brooks RT TM Lee TE Tremble Sanders Hollister WR DJ XL WR Mingo TMJ Slot AT Coaker Defense (26) DE Robinson TJ Smith DT Tuttle Thurman DE Brown Ray OLB Clowney Chassion Leota Barno (pup) MLB1 Shaq Wallace MLB2 Jewell Wooten OLB Wonnom DJ Johnson Luiji CB1 Horn Bootle CB2 Jackson (IR) L.Jackson Jameson SS Woods Alex Cook FS Fuller Scott Nickel Hill Wade ST P Heckler K Pinero PR/KR LS Jansen IR PUP Franklin YOSH Practice Squad POS D.Jackson Brooks S Jammie RObinson Barno OG Zalava LB Cherelus RB Mike Boone WR David Moore WR ISM TE Ian Thomas OL Cade Mayes OG Nash Jensen CB D'Shawn Jamesion OT Taeora K Mevis DL Junior Aho DL Crumley S Demani Richardson MLB Barret