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NFLTR: Panthers Cap Casualty Candidates
BeenPounding replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Easy 15,7 off the books by cutting dead weight of Yosh, Dane, Sanders, Tuttle. Restructure Brown and Hunt, sign Moten to a short extension with void years and we are in solid shape for free agency. I'd be shopping for a DT, S, and WR. Focusing on Slayton at WR, Moerhig at S and Milton Williams for our FA class would be superb and doable. Adding them to a healthy DB, Wallace, Horn, Robinson, would greatly benefit our defense. -
#8 - I'm still on team trade back, but Pearce is growing on me. His run defense is very strong, could be a great value pick. #57 - Collins = best run defender in the draft. Fits a solid need. Him, DB, and Robinson will be solid. #74 - Royals speed freak with a great route tree. #109 - Schwesinger solid MLB with pass rush ability and could be a special teams freak while he adapts to the NFL #112 - If Mukuba last this long it would be a miracle. This pick is a good spot for a safety. Moore from Alabama, Bowmans from OK could also be options here. #140 -Dylan Sampson. He has big play RB potential. I'm not sure he really fits in our scheme. I wanted Ollie Gordon II = big bruiser. He could be a good 3rd down back and So see pick #216. #148 - Belton. We need an offensive linemen that actually plays tackle full time for depth purposes. I was going to a no trade draft, but I can't help myself. Trade = #168/#223 and a 2025 4th round pick in exchange for #172, 215, 216 #172 - Jordan Philips Maryland. I would have drafted him at #168. Lab built physical DL specimen. Very young, let's develop him. #215 - Jah Joyner - 6'5" 260 freaky athlete. Have him learn under Clowney for a year and turn him into an Edge setter with pass rush ability. #216 - Mullings - 6'2" 232 - Give us a big back where we can rest Chuba in our Jumbo set.
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Our most likely quality, but subdue more at WR would be to target someone like Darius Slayton. We aren't getting into the Tee Higgins business unless we want to drive up his price. Chris Godwin is coming off a serious injury, is a little older, and would likely cost double what DS would. Additionally, you'd likely pay double for nearly the same production. My top FA additions for us would be the following: 1. Slayton WR 2. Tre’von Moehrig S 3. Milton Williams DT/DE 4. Kenneth Gainwell RB 5. Poona Ford NT You would likely have to choose between Williams and Ford, but this would give us so much more flexibility in the draft. In this scenario I am assuming we resign, M.Jackson, Tremble, Corbett, and Mayes. I really believe that we could get Corbett to take over Brady's role of utility lineman. It's not a crazy thought. Look at his NFL and College experience. College LT, played guard for the Browns and Rams, transitioned to Center with great success for us, and most importantly, he wants to be here. If we hit in free agency we could trade back and leverage our picks to load up on the strength of this draft. Or we could zero in on Will Johnson and not feel as if we had ignored our needs. We have a cap wizard and through some basic restructures of Hunt, DB, and signing Moten to a short extension we will have more cap space than we initially anticipated. Draft: Trade with SF to #11 and get #43 in exchange for #8 Offense: QB: BY, Kurtis Rourke, Plummer RB: Chuba/Gainwell/(rookie thumper Ollie Gordon II)/ RB TE: Tremble, Sanders, (rookie - Mitchel Evans), Franks LT: Icky (Yosh) LG: Lewis (Zavila) Center: Corbett/Mayes RG: Hunt RT: Moten (Austin Barber) WR: Legette, Cocker, AT, Slayton, David Moore, (Matthew Golden) Defense: NT: Poona Ford DE: DB, AR, Crumedy, Milton Williams, (Omarr Norman-Lott ) OLB: Clowney, Wonnam, (Princely Umanmielen ), DJ Johnson ILB: Jewell, Wallace, Windmon, (Carson Schwesinger), Shaq - rotate between ILB and OLB CB: Horn, MJ, CSW, (Will Johnson), Farley S: Moehrig, Richardson, (Malachi Moore) , Franklin, FA ST: JJ, FA K - Cade York, Heckler
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We have to be getting a new NT right?
BeenPounding replied to thunderraiden's topic in Carolina Panthers
Damn.... I guess I'm banging the table for Ashton Gillotte as my mid-round EDGE draft crush. -
We have to be getting a new NT right?
BeenPounding replied to thunderraiden's topic in Carolina Panthers
OR..... If we miss out on Graham with #8, use our 2nd round pick on Walker. You can't teach 6'6 345 LB's that can get sacks -
We have to be getting a new NT right?
BeenPounding replied to thunderraiden's topic in Carolina Panthers
Derek Brown, Mason Grahm/Deone Walker, Ashaun Robinson Solved. I'm still on team trade back to late teens and pick up an additional 2nd round pick. I'll take Jalon Walker as an Edge along with Dani-Dennis Sutton. -
Next year Clowney and Wonnom have a combined cap hit of 21 million. Honestly, that isn't bad for two decent players. I like Wonnom, If he improves against the run he is a solid situational pass rusher / back-up / spot starter. That's what 8 million buys you at the EDGE. Clowney on the other hand has a 13 million cap hit. Not terrible, but he needs to stay healthier. Adding a rookie who can play 30 - 40% of the snaps could help keep JC healthier IMOP.
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Draft him and his EDGE mate DDS!!!!
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Panthers and Horn talks will be interesting
BeenPounding replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You need to invest at all levels of your defense so you can have draft picks develop. Brown / Robinson are good investments at one level. If Wallace makes a jump we could be solid at LB with an opportunity to draft a solid payer next to him. Clowney and Wonnum aren't terrible at the EDGE for 20M combined. Perfect opportunity to draft at that position. Having Horn locked up on one side, and hopefully we can pay Mike Jackson we are good. WHEN he resigns, hopefully we can keep him on the books for 12.5 million (2025). I doubt a new contract would be that cheap. Safety is a huge hole. We will need to sign a quality free agent. Safety may cost us resigning one linemen, thinking BC. After watching the ND/PSU game I'm ll in on BOTH Abdul Carter and Dani-Denis Sutton. If Carter isn't there, I say we trade back if we can get an additional 2nd to drop back in the 1st round. -
How good would the Colts have been if they traded for Bryce. Richardson is wasting a good line and quality receivers.
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Remember our cap only counts the highest 51 contracts. Many of these guys could be had for near or vet minimum contracts. Cutting those contracts has no real cap ramifications. Many of these guys played too much last year and didn't serve the role of depth players. Even though they didn't perform as starters, they could serve a valuable depth pieces. If we draft well, get healthy, and sign a few quality free agents, many would be in position to play a part of this team that serves both well. Take a look at this link and you will see some interesting stats in regard to playing time. FYI, Xavier Woods played 100% and Mike Jackson played nearly 99% of defensive snaps. They were the only two players above 95%. Hunt was the next highest at 93% and he missed the final game. Unrestricted FA's QB Andy Dalton - I like him, but we could get someone like Cooper Rush or Minshew for the same $$$$ we are paying him. C Austin Corbett - Incentive laden and team friendly C Brady Christensen - top swing OL pay replace Yosh Nijman TE Tommy Tremble - Lock him up now, multi-year cheap. He's not even 25. He will get much better. TE Ian Thomas TE Feleipe Franks - ST minimum deal WR David Moore - minimum deal RB Mike Boone DE DeShawn Williams - minimum deal (PS?) OLB Cam Gill LB Shaq Thompson - only if it is a minimum with incentives. Think late career TD or Jeremiah Trotter. Player coach CB Mike Jackson - He's going to cost more than we think, but keep the man!! CB Caleb Farley - minimum deal to prove it if he is FINALLY healthy S Xavier Woods S Jordan Fuller S Nick Scott S Sam Franklin - not breaking the bank. He is ST only. S Lonnie Johnson P Johnny Hekker - if the price is right K Eddy Piñeiro LS JJ Jansen - Can't remember a bad snap over the past 10 years. According to Google is hasn't happened since 2010. Resign tomorrow. RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS C Cade Mays - 3 million right of first refusal. WR Deven Thompkins - minimum deal RB Raheem Blackshear - minimum deal. I like him, but he didn't show much when given his shot on offense. WR Velus Jones Jr. WR Dan Chisena - minimum (PS) EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS DE LaBryan Ray - It's cheap, bottom roster PS guy LB Chandler Wooten - It's cheap, bottom roster PS guy
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Corbett knows he needs to take a prove it deal and I think he will. I watched an interview and he was convincingly adamant he wants to stay. Two different injuries in two years was bad luck. It's not like it was the same thing. He knows the game and figures to end his career in a place where he is happy. You can't really compare how Bryce did with Mays compared to AC. AC was hurt week 5. Bryce was on the bench after week 2 and didn't return until week 8. Mays is basically under team control next year as a RFA. We could offer the right of first refusal for 3m. I'd offer a 2 year deal which averages a little higher so you can manipulate the cap on his deal. Additionally, I'd resign Corbett to a team friendly deal. Many forget he has positional versatility like BC. Corbett is only one year older, is two inches shorter, about 10 pounds heavier, and has arms that are one inch longer. Corbett has played LT in college and guard/center in the NFL. Ideally, bring back all three, but if BC gets big time $$$ AC and CM can battle for center and the other becomes a swing lineman. If we cut bait on Yosh Nijman we may be able to keep all three. I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.
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FANSIDE 3 round choices for the Panthers
BeenPounding replied to cmichd08's topic in Carolina Panthers
The more I mock, the more I want to trade back. If we could move to the mid to late teens and pick up an additional 2nd round pick I'd pounce. We need to get the interior DL and our ILB's fixed. WR would be a luxury pick this year. If we got another 2nd round pick I would look at WR Elic Ayomanor, that kid can play. However our needs in the middle of the defense are paramount. Our pass rush was really hurt because the run defense up the middle and between the tackles was SAWFT. I like a lot of the TE's in this draft as good role players. Late in the draft we need to look at Mitchel Evans from ND. Solid over the middle and he can block.