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Good thing we played Norwood.

Ted Ginn is one of the worst receivers ever.

Has that screen play ever worked out for us outside of like, that Jets game? I mean, why does he still call it?

Honestly, barring a spectacular performance from our D or Cam Newton going balls out, I don't see how we win this game Sunday. Our OL is going to get massacred.

Those linbackers tho

People actually thought there was a chance Brown would get cut? Yea, he played like trash a couple of weeks ago but if you guys haven't noticed, all of our receivers (sans maybe Funchess) are trash, at least without Benjamin around to take #1 attention. He was never not safe.

Andrew Norwell has the height to slide out to tackle and he played some tackle in college. However, after how well he played at guard last year, it seems pointless to experiment him at tackle just to play Mathis there. Mathis might be able to contribute for a year or two, but I'll take my chances with the possibility of Norwell being a long-term fixture at guard rather than Mathis being a 1 to 2 year stop gap solution.

Our good late round and UDFA picks last year really helped us out, giving us the ability to do that. I'm really beginning to like the depth everywhere on our team sans offensive line and safety.

All aboard the La'el Collins and Devin Smith train!

Yea, what he should have done is take TJ Clemmings, the raw tackle who fell to the 2nd round unsurprisingly. You guys act like DJ Humphries wasn't pretty much guaranteed if he fell to 25. Gettleman sticks to his board. Just so happens the best player on his board played defense because three of our top offensive options got taken (Gurley, Peat, Humphries). Gettleman isn't going to reach for a player.

What makes you think we will limit him to linebacker?

Very happy with the pick.

There is difference between being a receiver who can make plays downfield from time to time and a receiver who can consistently burn you deep and causes concern for DBs. Ginn gets open downfield once every so often, but it is so inconsistent it doesn't really matter. A true, consistent deep threat are guys like DeSean Jackson, Antonio Brown, so on and so forth. Guys who DBs fear. Nobody fears Ted Ginn.

Bill O'Brien is an offensive coach.

You do realize Kevin Williams was more known for his pass rushing abilities than his run stuffing abilities (like Kawann Short)... right? It was hard to run inside because Pat Williams was a beast and Kevin Williams was an All-Pro talent. Selecting Goldman might improve our run defense, but you aren't going to see two nosetackles on the field together all that often.

And if we draft Denzel Perryman and he turns into Ray Lewis, we will be eating crow about this time next year. Guess it would be OK to draft a middle linebacker in the first round, right? I don't even have anything against taking a DT (well, I do, but I wouldn't be ticked or anything), but it is easy to see what the problem with the move would be. It isn't like we don't already have a great run stuffer on the roster.

Eh, it's possible depending on who you ask. There are a couple of DTs (sans Leonard Williams, because there is a snowballs chance in hell that would happen unless unexpected character or health issues arise) that, if they fell to our pick at 25, could be argued as BPA (not sure I would agree, but alas). However, the question truly is... are they good enough to the point that the difference between them and the next prospect is large enough to warrant drafting them despite our fortunes at the position currently? The answer to that is no. I'm not saying I would be outraged if we took Goldman. Me personally, I don't get up in arms about that kind of stuff. I just think there will be better options at 25, and far better options when you consider the situation.

I tend to agree with you. However, defensive tackle is down there with quarterback and middle linebacker of positions we absolutely do not need. At least not in the first round. I like Goldman, but not when we already have two young, very good (with the potential to become great very, very soon) defensive tackles already on the roster. We are not in a position where we should be making picks like that - we simply have too many other needs on the roster that a luxury pick like that would not be beneficial. It doesn't make sense as a current need nor would it make sense going forward considering our youth and talent at the position. I wouldn't be opposed to a defensive tackle in the second round, but there will be several better options in the first. Like you, I wouldn't be mad if we went defense. Just not at defensive tackle. That would be moronic. I mean, of course if a player like Leonard Williams fell to us... that changes things, but that isn't happening.

The reactions if we drafted Eddie Goldman would be glorious.

Day 1? As in, first round? Chris Conley... in the first round?

I'm curious. How is Melvin Gordon a "CJ2K type runner"? Gordon relies more on cutting than Johnson did. Gordon's vision is also much better. He doesn't have Johnson's straight-line speed, but beats him in COD. He is more like McCoy and Charles (although Charles has blazing speed) than Johnson.

Peat and it isn't even close.

Torn ACLs happen. You make it sound like Gurley was constantly nicked up or something. Not that I am advocating for Gurley in the first round, but there is no reason to think he can't handle a normal NFL workload for a top-flight RB.

I can't speak much on the 2005 Steelers, but the 2008 Steelers had one of the greatest defenses of all-time. They didn't need a lot of weapons on their offense. So maybe if our defense gets that good... yeah.