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For Watson? That would be highway robbery. Texans would never accept that. Well maybe if Bill O'Brien returns

The more I watch Justin Fields, the more I like him. Oddly enough... he reminds me a lot of Deshaun Watson coming out of Clemson. I'd say the same concerns I have about Fields, I had about Watson, in that the biggest thing for them was just learning how to go through progressions better and some of the technical aspects of the position. Fields' footwork is a little inconsistent too, don't remember Watson's much in college but Fields has a tendency of not keeping his footwork precise as he goes through the throw. However, he's a playmaker and he's aggressive. My two favorite traits about him. While he's similar to Watson in the sense that he can let pressure get to him too much and how he deals with pressure will need to be improved (poor pocket awareness), he does a very good job for the most part looking downfield and keeping the pass play alive with his legs before deciding to take off and run. I still like Wilson more. Slightly worse playmaker but a better passer. But I'd love if we ended up with either of the 2 after a trade-up.

Yes, Mac Jones is mechanically sound. But he plays for Alabama. And yes, I get it. It is the player, not the team, that matters the most. And I'm usually in full agreement of not holding it against the player for the team he played for. But this is Alabama we're talking about. They are so much better than the next college football team, it is ridiculous. Think about this: Ohio State is littered with talent. They are/were arguably the 2nd most talented team in college last year. They slapped Clemson. And guess what Bama did to them? They clapped them. It wasn't even competitive after the 2nd quarter. Mac Jones has some good traits but it is far easier to look mechanically sound playing at Alabama than it is at a program like North Carolina or BYU. And we're already seeing a trend in the NFL where immobile pocket passers seem to struggle transitioning to the NFL a lot more than athletic QBs. Even a guy like Burrow is far more mobile inside and outside the pocket than Jones (and I'll admit, I was very hesitant about Burrow, but I think he showed enough as a rookie that makes me convinced he'll keep progressing). So you are banking on Jones' mechanics holding up on a team that definitely will not have the kind of talent gap that Alabama has with the next best team. Same reason I wasn't big on Tua (although I liked him more than Jones). Yeah, he was very good if not great, but did he ever jump off the screen? Was I ever like, "man, this dude is why Alabama is so hard to beat?" Eh, not really. IMO for me to take on an Alabama QB, he's gotta be a freak. I'm talking he's got to be the best player on the field. Someone who can take over a game with their arm regardless of what is around him. And I never saw that in Jones. I saw a guy who could play very well on a great team. He's a great manager of the game (I don't mean that in a bad way), but he reminds me of a Kirk Cousins. Again, not a bad thing, and obviously you take that guy in the 2nd round if he's there. But for me personally I don't like watching QBs like that. I don't think that is the QB you want if you want to consistently win in this league (IMO this is the reason why, while Ryan is a very good QB, Falcons as a team are just really inconsistent). You want a QB who can take over games. You want a QB who can leave his stamp on the field no matter the guys around him. And yeah it is possible your team still loses games if they are bad enough (see: 2020 Texans), but that is the kind of guy I want. Someone that will WILL your team to victory. And Jones to me isn't that kind of QB. He's a guy who is going to play extremely well if the talent on offense is there, but he won't elevate you. Which again... not the worst thing in the world, and I do consider the comparison to Matt Ryan to be accurate so if he reached that point then yeah he'd have been worth taking in the 1st round. But that is a long-shot. Nowadays it just feels like it takes way more work for those kind of guys to succeed than it does QBs that can move around. Cousins and Goff are really the only 2 recent QBs taken that are fairly immobile and found success... and WFT let Cousins leave (and he wasn't taken in the 1st anyway) and Rams just traded Goff.

Was he beat out? Or did Payton just have a hard-on for Hill? I'm a lot higher on Jameis than others, I'll admit. Yes, his turnovers are a problem, but 30 INTs is almost certainly an aberration even by his standards. I think with good coaching and effective run game to take the load off of him he could easily be a Pro Bowl quality QB. And I'd EASILY take him over Teddy. I agree with you though it would have to be a cheap deal. But I do have confidence it could work out.

Why would the Dolphins take that deal lol?

This is a pretty trash take. Panthers could try their hardest and yet it is possible Watson isn't traded or if he is, we're out-bidded. It is possible the Panthers are outbidded for the #3 or #4 overall pick in a trade-up and we're stuck at #8. Lot of things to happen. If you are gonna stop caring about the team because they can't get a QB this offseason, then that is lousy IMO. It isn't like we're not putting in the effort. Last thing the Panthers need to do is reach for a QB for the sake of doing it. All we can ask from them is to do their best and that is what they are doing by all accounts.

I'd much rather stick with Bridgewater than waste money and time on another mediocre QB. Same thing applies with the draft. I don't want this team taking a QB for the sake of taking one. I really really don't want us to draft a QB if it isn't Lawrence/Fields/Wilson. Lance MAYBEEE I'd come around on but honestly I don't know what anyone sees in him when they watch film. He's just a great athlete but that is it. I would not take him in the 1st round, much less top 10.

Maybe in 2021, but by 2022 I'm 90% sure we would be a contender with Russ. I mean really outside of QB, are we any worse than Seattle outside of safety? And while yes Seattle underwhelmed down the stretch and lost in the first round, they still had a chance. I'd have considered them a contender because they absolutely could of went on a run if things worked out. I'm not saying we'd be the favorites. But assuming our defense continues on a upward trend (which it should given the youth), our offense would be good enough to score on anyone even with a lesser OL.

I don't mind if we don't get a QB this offseason. It'd be preferred but not the end of the world. This team is in a great position in 2022. I'd only be mad if we replaced Teddy with a marginal, 'decent' improvement. If it ain't a franchise QB then stick with Teddy Bridgewater. Same ish with Cam. I 100% understood releasing him. The problem was replacing him with Teddy. Why not just stick with Cam at that point? Same thing here. Don't get rid of Teddy just to replace him with another mediocre QB. You either go after a guy like Watson or someone in the draft who you think can be a franchise QB, or you stick with Teddy.

I see no reason why that can't be Russ though. He's never missed a game and doesn't rely on his mobility to the point where his game will have to change much in the next 3-4 years. Honestly, if ALL we had to do was give up 3 1st round picks? And not give up any other players? I'm easily taking that deal. Easily. That gives us a strong 3-year window at minimum to compete for a championship. Even if you don't think Wilson puts us in that talk this year, in 2022 we'll have so much cap space to make splash moves. Of course I think the Seahawks would want players in return. But the 3 1st round picks themselves don't bother me. Wilson is elite and he'd immediately make us a strong contender for the next 3-5 years.

Lol Trask? May as well keep Teddy.

Not sure how I feel about Justin Fields but if that is all we have to give up to move up to #3 then it is totally worth it.

They could get fined up to $5m for each violation, the league itself could choose to cancel contracts, and they could lose draft picks. And Saints wouldn't be able to anything about it. Not sure about when it has to happen though. Maybe 7 days after the start of the new league year?

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Gonna be honest I haven't even considered the cap ramifications lol Wish the NFL had a trade machine like NBA has on ESPN

True, but just based on everything I have heard and read, I do not get the impression that McNair would ever even consider firing Easterby. The Texans are Easterby's team and McNair's the guy empowering him. And that being the case, there really isn't anything that can be done under that power structure that will change Watson's mind. Best-case scenario is he says eff it and agrees to play, but now you're talking about a QB who really doesn't want to be there but just plays anyway. IMO as crazy as it sounds. When you consider the Texans lack of immediate draft capital or cap space. And consider that they will almost certainly suck even with Watson this year. I actually think you could argue trading Watson would be the best move for their rebuild. You will get a great player or two and a lot of picks. But they are not winning anything with Watson in the next 2 years.

There has never, ever been a star player who demanded a trade and it didn't happen. At the end of the day, the game is the game, and the locker-room is the locker-room. When your best player vocally wants out, it creates an EXTREMELY toxic environment. Coaches don't want to deal with it. Teammates don't want to deal with it. I 100% guarantee you Culley would rather move on from the situation. It is a McNair/Easterby move to "keep him," which I don't think they will stick with a few months from now. Really the only way Watson stays is if he changes his mind. And what are the Texans gonna be able to do to change that? They don't have a lot of cap space and no good draft picks. They might wait to do it. But I'm 99.9% sure it will happen. It always happens. It just isn't worth it at the end of the day, because for as good as Watson is, you aren't gonna have team-success when your best player is PO'd and not fully committed.

3 1sts and McCaffrey I agree giving up Burns or Brown is dumb. But I think 3 1sts and CMC is a great deal, especially when you consider the 1st this year will likely be used on a QB no matter what. That pick is a wash IMO. And while I LOVE McCaffrey and consider him extremely valuable (I have his jersey and will always love it) he's worth throwing in there considering he's no longer on a rookie contract.

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It just isn't worth moving Moton to LT. Best case scenario is he is as good as LT as he is RT, but that more than likely wouldn't be the case. And he's already a Pro Bowl level RT at 26 years old. Doesn't turn 27 until August. He'll probably be playing at an All-Pro level these next 5 years barring injury. Sure, maybe if we found someone that could start at RT, then maybe try moving Moton. But we don't have that right now and we didn't last season. And if you are going to look for a RT when you already have a stud, then you might as well look for a LT. It just doesn't make sense to mess up something you already know is good to try and patch up another hole, which even if it works out just creates another hole. Panthers should just try and find a good LT so that we can have 2-bookend tackles for the next 5 years minimum. That is why I want Sewell so bad if we don't get a QB. Sewell on a rookie contract and Moton on a 5-year deal would be amazing. It would make us one of the best spots for a QB regardless of what happens with the WR position in 2022.

It's just way too difficult to talk about this offseason without talking about a QB. That changes everything. Especially since our cap situation isn't in the best spot. Really the only moves worth talking about that we'll likely make are tagging and/or extending Moton and whatever we do with our picks, which will likely have to do with what we do at QB. I think we're just gonna have to take our time in FA and see who's willing to take on short-term deals for not a lot of money. Robby Anderson was an AMAZING find last year. Let's hope we can find a defensive equivalent to him in FA.

If you think being "another Romo" is a bad thing, then that tells me all I need to know about what you know.

Lol Big Ben? Rivers? Stafford? Dak Prescott is easily better than those guys right now.

Eh maybe if Sewell isn't there but if he is available, you gotta take him. You just have to, unless a team is offering you a great great deal to move up. And an elite LT is worth a lot. If you agree Sewell has the potential to be that, then I don't think you trade down unless you are getting a future 1st (on top of whatever 1st the team trading with you already has) and multiple 2nds in return. But yes, if Sewell isn't there and Wilson/Lance/Fields are gone, then we should trade down.

So you would rather them reach for a mediocre QB or overpay in a trade for one (other than Watson) than draft Sewell? I want a QB too. But we shouldn’t force it for the sake of if Wilson/Fields/Lance are off the board. Jones and Trask suck and it amazes me people would be okay with that in the 1st lol