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Regardless, Bryce Young would have fell no lower than 3rd overall. My overall point still stands. Teams miss on QBs all the team. Do we deserve criticism for that? Absolutely. However again the same mistake we made, another team (regardless of the team) would have made in the top 3. Because finding a QB is hard and teams overdraft QBs every year.

Because drafting is hard, especially at the QB position. The same "mistake" the Panthers made was the exact same "mistake" the Texans had every intention of making had they picked first overall.

I thought Bryce looked like mini-Mahomes at times last year. Passer rating can only tell you so much. Bryce made a lot of big plays that don't show up on the stat sheet.

Eh, you never know in the NFL. Teams turn it around quickly all the time. Look no further than the Texans. I'm not saying we'll do it. But you never know. Hell maybe we end up with the No. 1 pick in 2025 again and fleece a team like how the Bears did us.

You don't think Bryce Young is a good QB?

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But they did win.

That isn't because he wasn't trying to push the ball downfield. His receivers just sucked.

If you only look at measurables, Mingo and Legette might seem similar. But when you actually look at them and watch them play, they aren't close to the same. And this is coming from someone who is skeptical about Legette, although ultimately I believe he will work out. I've just always disagreed with the comparisons to Mingo. Mingo tests better than he plays/runs, whereas Legette plays/runs as well as he tests.

As bad as things were with the Panthers last year, we still had 4 other games outside of the 2 we won that we came very close to winning. Could throw the Falcons game in there too, it was tied going into the 4th. I'm not really sure what to expect this year. I don't think we'll make the playoffs. However, we play in a very weak division where no team has a standout QB. On paper, our OL should be good, and could be great if Ikem improves. That alone could help mask a lot of problems on offense. Should allow us to run the ball better. Even if Bryce doesn't improve, the OL should at the very least give him more time to make the easy throws underneath and let a guy like Legette work his magic after the catch. And I think this defense in a 2nd year with Evero should, at the very least, be in the top 16. I'm expecting our run defense to be as good as it has been in years. I think this team could push for 7-8 wins. But it could also finish with 2 wins again. That is just how the league works. Jets offense was miserable last year, and yet they still won 7 games. We won't really get a good feel of it until after the preseason, and even then, who knows.

He was so underrated. Between 2009-2011 he was one of the best CBs in football. It was such a bummer he got injured the next year and then retired. EDIT: I forgot we released him actually, but I'd guess the Panthers and Gamble had already discussed his intentions. Plus IIRC we needed to get under the cap and he had a big deal at the time. https://www.derp/2011/5/23/2185316/chris-gamble-the-unfairly-critiqued-panther This was from May 2011, showing his performance from 2010.

There's a part of me that wants to believe he just went on a bad run of unlucky injuries. He did play 13 games in 2022 before breaking his wrist and a hamstring injury can happen to just about anyone. But when it happens 3 seasons in a row, it is hard to have faith that nothing won't come up again this year.

Hey guys, did you know Bryce Young sucks? I think we need more discourse about it.

That's the same issue that tall QBs with bad footwork have. It isn't an issue of size. You could argue his lack of size makes it harder for him to compensate for bad footwork (for example, Cam Newton, whose footwork was atrocious especially early in his career but he made up for it because he was a great athlete) and I would agree with that. But the footwork itself isn't a size problem, in my opinion anyway

I'm still optimistic he can be a good QB. And that if he does fail, I don't think size is the #1 reason why. I'm not saying his small stature helps, but it isn't at the forefront of the issues he has a QB. One of the biggest improvements I would like to see is him being more decisive. Not just as a passer but as a runner. Maybe it was because he was shell-shocked by the midway point, but he took too long to make decisions such as when to escape from the pocket. His footwork also needs to be worked on. Neither of those are size issues. Those are issues QBs of all sizes have.

Yes, Bryce bad.

Minshew isn't good but he's way better than Pickett.

Hey guys, did you know Bryce Young is bad?

I'm biased obviously but I think I would take our roster over the Commanders and Giants. We still suck though.

I can't tell if I under-appreciated Greg Olsen while he was here or just this team has been so garbage in the years since it makes me reminsence about every past Panthers great. But yeah, definitely a reminder to really appreciate what you have when you have it.

What's wrong with having that mentality? He's just expressing how he wants to be known as a great Panthers tight end.

That tweet is hella misleading. He literally says like 20 seconds later, "obviously, I think moving forward, you want Bryce Young."

Okay and? Legette's career likely won't be with just one QB if Bryce doesn't improve.

That's unfair. It might be a different take, but it isn't like he's doing it with zero research. He gives his reasons. It would be different if he was saying something so boldly without backing up why he felt that way. And you just never really know. Great WRs come from every round nowadays. Is it really that outrageous to think Legette could be the best one? Just last year arguably the 2 best rookie WRs were Nacua (5th round) and pre-injury Dell (3rd round). Amon-Ra went 4th and he'd be the best WR in his class if not for Chase.

I was expecting more short jokes