tukafan21

Burns will not play for the Panthers beyond 2023, I'd put it at a 5% chance, at best, and that's only because I don't want to say 0%. That we couldn't get a deal done with him before the season shows how far apart we had to have been with him and on the open market, someone absolutely will, because the entire league has seen the Panthers constantly mis-use stars and then watch them explode with their next team. Yes, we could franchise tag him, but he's not playing a down for us on the tag, not after how this has all gone. The time to trade for him is now because a pass rusher is what a lot of teams think will put them over the top, and the leverage is that multiple teams will want him. We'll get a 1st plus more for him, no doubt in my mind. So it just becomes who does Tepper want making the trade, Fitterer or Morgan, and that's what dictates how much longer Fitterer is around in my opinion

GM is different, I think a lot of qualified candidates would love the chance, even if they know Bryce is terrible as they'll expect a top pick soon to replace him. You also really never see GM's get fired quickly unless they really do something terrible, so you know you have more job security than a HC with a terrible team. Coaches sometimes only get 1 chance at a HC job and you can lose it in one year if you're THAT bad. So taking the risk on a terrible team can be shaky, as if you're so bad you get fired after 1 season, you generally don't get another shot at it. Which is why I think Reich gets 2 years minimum, the schedule does let up after the bye so I'm not expecting us to actually go 0-17, if we do, he might get fired, but that would really be the only way I think. But if there isn't significant improvement in year 2 under Reich, he might not last the full season and then a new coach can replace Bryce with the high draft pick in 2025.

It depends how much Tepper trusts Morgan to try and trade Burns. Because Burns has to go by the deadline at this point, just have to get the picks and can't risk him getting hurt to screw us in an offseason trade. So if he trusts Morgan, it likely will be either tomorrow or Sunday after the Miami game and then Morgan gets to do the trade. If he doesn't, he'll let Fitterer make his final move and then fire him after the trade deadline has passed in case there are other trades that need to be made by then. I'm hoping the former

That's crazy, we just got rolled by the Lions while they were missing some of their best players. How is Miami only a 10.5 point favorite at home and not even the biggest spread of the day? I'm surprised Bills/Giants is a bigger spread than our game and the KC/Denver. Broncos and Panthers are both worse than the Giants and the Bills are coming back from a long London trip

Anyone know what it might be? Have a feeling that we could break that record next week. @Miami, it ain’t gonna be pretty

2024 First Round Pi….. oh, poo

Burns has already shown us that he's not signing here on a reasonable or fair contract and we're not about to contend. You have to trade him for the best offer we can get at this point, he's just not part of our future.

So... only football team I care about right now is... And......

There's probably more action on this site right now than there has been since the 2015 season. The only thing people love more than celebrating a good football team is complaining about a poo one

As I've said a few times when people keep bringing up firing Reich and giving Evero the job.... We have an assistant HC, if Reich is fired at any point this season (which I still doubt would happen), then the coordinators stay in their jobs and Deuce takes over as HC, no point in having an Asst HC and then promoting a DC to Interim HC if you fire the HC.

No, you need a GM who is smart enough to look at the bigger picture at times. A 2nd round pick isn't going to make up for the demoralizing nature of actually giving up on the #1 pick that quickly, who you traded away so much to get. I'm not advocating for Bryce's long term potential, I think he's utter garbage. But there is no player you can get in the 2nd round who will make up for what that will do to the locker room and fan support, it would destroy all of it to a level that's never been seen in NFL history before.

In a vacuum I'm taking this in a second and laughing at the Patriots In the real world, you just can't do it, it would be so demoralizing to the team, city, fans, etc, that it would have wider ramifications that the 2nd round pick couldn't make up for.

This is why you don’t trade away the farm for a WB who doesn’t have a single elite physical trait. Hell, you could make the argument that he doesn’t even have a single above average physical trait. This is as bad as it gets folks

We can’t do that, if/when Bryce is terrible in 2024, we can start to consider taking a new QB in the first, but there won’t be any QB good enough on the 2nd round to make it worth our while to do that in the next draft. Start building up the franchise right and add solid young players with picks like that.

So…. When the defense just decided to play soft zones, he was able to complete easy passes. Exactly what I’m looking for from the #1 pick of the draft

Bryce Young

Eh, screw it, just let Bryce suck so we get the #1 pick in 2025 and can replace him, he’s complete garbage

Yea, you’re not allowed to bash Bryce for his size, sorry, dem da rules after you spent all summer talking about him like you did.

They're not giving up a probably Top 5 pick for the right to pay Burns the money he wants, not when they would prefer to draft a new QB and dump Wilson after the season.

Burns would never be in any deal to get Jeudy, as they're not giving up their first rounder with Jeudy to get Burns and we're not giving them Burns for Jeudy without that first. I'm afraid we'll make a stupid trade to get Jeudy, but I'm not afraid that we'll include Burns in it, even Fitterer isn't that dumb.

Except Baker and Bryce kinda have opposite strengths and weaknesses Put Bryce's brain in Baker's body and you'd have a really good QB

Yes, because he looks THAT bad out there. It's not like he's just making poor decisions or something that is easily fixed. It's clear as day to anyone that has watched him that he just isn't fast enough to pull the same pocket "magic" that he did in college, he isn't strong enough to escape finger tip tackle attempts, and his arm just isn't "NFL strong enough" either. Again, I was 100% sure he'd be a bust well before we made the trade, I never liked him as a prospect and he's been even worse in those areas of concern than I even imagined he would be. It's not a 3 game sample size, it's everything he showed in college not translating to the NFL game, like I figured would be the case. Still rooting for him because we're stuck with him, but I just don't see it with him and I'll always call it like I see it. I take no joy in bashing him, I really wish he'd just make me look like a fool and prove me wrong, but I'm not optimistic about that.

He hasn't shown a single moment of elite potential while showcasing all of the pre-draft concerns at the same time. Sure, he might still turn it around and become something, but he's earned every bit of criticism with his play so far. I'm one of "that crowd" and I'll still support and root for him on Sundays, but I'm not going to lie about what I'm seeing out of him and what I think his potential ceiling may be. Just because we said we would "back our guy" doesn't mean we believed he wouldn't be a bust, we were just hoping he wouldn't be once we drafted him. Everything about him seemed so predictable before the draft, nothing in his tape showed any elite physical traits, how you trade away your future to take someone without that is still baffling to me.

I think you just missed the point. The point was that we kept trying to fix the QB position by overpaying for average or worse players and it only kept making the position worse for us. My point is that going for Jeudy is the same thing, just a different position

Chase went door to door on Burrow's street asking his neighbors if they would sell their house to him because he wanted to live close to him. They're best friends and I'm guessing will play together until one of them retires.