tukafan21

Take out the UNM game entirely and he still had over 1,000 yards on the season, so removing one big game isn't a fair way of looking at the game log breakdown anyways. Beyond that.... In 15 games against ranked teams in his career, he has 90 rec, 1,182 yards, 9 TDs I'm sorry, but in what world can you look at those stats and say he only feasted on bad competition? Then yes, you touched on it and I've never brought it up because I felt his actual play spoke for itself anyways, but he did play this whole season banged up. He got hurt in the spring/summer and missed all of fall practice, they weren't even sure if he was going to be ready for Week 1 of the season until the week of the game and you could see he was a bit hobbled at times this year. And yes, his QB play was awful this year, the coaching and play calling was even worse, and the secondary weapons to take any defensive attention away from him was somehow worse than either of those previous two things.

I swear to god, this has been said so many times by people on here, and I have to call it out for what it is, utter and complete nonsense. This isn't even me pushing for my guy again, it's just dumb. Bryce doesn't have a cannon for an arm, he literally couldn't even properly take advantage of the type of player you're talking about here if he wanted to. If you want to say we need an uber quick fast twitch WR to get the ball into their hands and let their speed make plays, that's totally fair. But to say we need that true speedster deep threat (and I know you didn't include "speedster" but if you're saying "true deep threat" instead of a "jump ball guy" it's clearly what you mean) is just nonsense when our QB has probably the weakest arm of any starting QB (and again, think what you will about Bryce's potential, that's just an indisputable fact). Honestly, I have no idea what people are watching when they say stuff like this Basically every single "expert analysis" of T-Mac as a prospect talks about how he's surprisingly fluid and a threat after the catch for a player of his size. If you want to talk about his speed and how fast/slow he looks to you, that's something I can't knock as yes, his overall speed is his one main weakness. But to say Evans looked more fluid than T-Mac is again, just literal nonsense, everything else you think about him as a prospect aside.

To be fair, Burns and Chinn made sense as Burns wanted more money than made sense for the player he is and Chinn wasn't coming back here since we weren't using him, while Luvu we tried to re-sign but couldn't. Don't get me started on the DJ or CMC trades though, they both still infuriate me beyond belief. Give me the two of them and all our draft picks over Bryce any day of the week.

Yea I get what you're saying, my comment was just in general, that a team with as many holes and as few cornerstone players as we have, trading one of those few good players, injury history aside, would just be exactly something we'd end up doing. I get that injury history needs to be considered, but in the end, we don't have enough of a built out roster to trade him, we have to take the risk. It can be structured in a way that it minimizes our risk on the back end of the deal so we can get out of it after a year or two without much pain in case he gets hurt, but signing him to an extension is a must. Hell, we could always threaten him with the franchise tag the next 2 years to force him to show he can stay healthy and use it as leverage to get him to sign a shorter contract now instead, which would actually benefit both sides. It gives us the chance to make sure he stays healthy, and it allows him to either hit FA or sign another extension in 2 years and cash in then if he stays healthy. Sign him now to a 3 year extension at just over the franchise tag number, on a front loaded deal. If he stays healthy, in 2 years we sign him to a monster contract, if he can't, then he made more money than he would have on the franchise tag and we get out of it without much future cap hits.

That's not my point, I'm just saying it's a very micro way of looking at it. As I said to someone a week or two ago when they said "we need high draft picks on the defensive side of the ball" That's just a flawed way of looking at building a roster, we need to have impact players on the defensive side of the ball, not necessarily high draft picks, they're two different things. Everyone keeps talking about going all defense in this draft, but the reality is we need to just forget about the draft right now and focus on defensive FA's. If we target and sign the right players in FA, namely not trying to spread our cap around but sign 1-2 serious impact players with at least one being a pass rusher, then it opens up all sorts of draft possibilities. Even if we went defense with every pick of our draft, they better not be the most impactful newcomers on the team next year, as it then means we screwed up our free agency.

I get what you're saying, but it's also kind of a disingenuous way of phrasing it when the best player on our whole team is a defensive lineman. Also, sometimes the best pass rush is by having great coverage downfield so the QB has to hold the ball longer, even the best offensive lines can only block players for so long before one gets loose to the QB

This would be peak Panthers Draft someone in the Top 10, stick with them for 3 years while they can't stay on the field due to injuries, despite other teams likely willing to give up a decent pick for him. Player finally has a full healthy season and makes the Pro Bowl. Panthers don't want to extend him and then trade him for a 2nd round pick for us to draft another bust.

Nah, I'd rather stay where we are in the 2nd and use those 5th rounders to move one of the 4th's up into the 3rd instead. With all our holes, we can find a useful player in the 3rd, I'd rather fill an extra missing spot than get a better player in the 2nd. In particular, I think that would be a great way to find our Center of the future, give up the 4th and like 2 5ths to move into the middle of the 3rd round to target a Center if there is one we like.

Yes we need to improve our defense, but I think people are taking the wrong thing away from last night's game. Yes, the Eagles defensive line pressure was amazing all night long and it's what won them the game, but it's not like they just did that to some dominant OL, Mahomes has been under pressure from pass rush a lot lately. The Eagles DL was great, but I think a takeaway the league at large is going to take is more on the other side, that if you can't protect your QB, no matter how good he is, it's not going to matter.

T-Mac, Graham, Johnson If none of them fall to us, trade back

He's 29 years old with a bad contract, and yes, while he has game breaking ability, he really doesn't have a defined position anymore, he's not really all that great at just lining up at WR and running routes, he's more gadget than anything. If you trade for a player like him, you need to build your offense around moving him around and getting him the ball with unique plays that don't work with anyone else. If he was 25 without injury issues, then it's a totally different conversation, but re-building your offense around an overpriced, oft injured 29 year old without a true position is exactly how you compound the issues a team like ours has. He's another player where I'd much rather WAY overpay to go after someone like Higgins, and I'm already staunchly against doing that as well.

Philly still may have won, but that play legitimately could have been what finished the Chiefs off in the end. If they went down and went TD-TD to close and open the half to then be down 10, it's a totally different game.

If this were remotely true, he'd be widely viewed as the unanimous #1 pick in this draft. The fact that that's just not the case, tells me this is an incorrect statement. The fact that he falls into the 2nd round in some mocks, tells me this is a widely absurd statement. I can't get on board with a player that polarizing at #8, just can't do it.

He’s transitioned into being a pass rusher, not going to be a MLB in the NFL

The Eagles have had a ton of roster turnover since their SB 2 years ago And there is a massive difference between other playoff games and the Super Bowl, just everything about it. They spend the week in town for practice, plus all the media around it. The extended intros, extended halftime, the pressure of the moment, all of it is just different and when half of one team has done it the last 3 years, it gives them a significant advantage that not enough people take into account.

I don't think this can be dismissed for how big of an impact it could make, in 2 particular areas. The start of the game and halftime KC isn't going to have any nerves at the start of this game, too many players who have been on the last 2 SB teams, while a lot of Eagles very well could have some jitters at the start, it's pretty normal for the SB. Then the super long halftime can never be understated at how different it is for the players. Was watching something with Belichick last night that said once when they got back to the SB after a bunch of years of not going, they specifically practiced halftime that week, taking the 30+ minute break in the middle of practices so their guys could get used to the extended break. In a close game, those two things very well could give the Chiefs just enough of an edge to make a difference.

WOW, Rappaport just said the Cowboys have had internal discussions about trading Parsons. Part of me says there is no way I'd ever consider trading for him as it would just cost us too much in draft capital and cap room, but man, him alone could change the prospects of this defense for the next 5+ years in an instant. Parsons + Brown = good luck opposing OL's

Hardest HOF to get into just got even harder, but in a bad way, it's more likely to make the HOF illegitimate than more exclusive, as players who should be in will now never get in. I wouldn't have ever said this a week ago, but I now no longer think Smith ever gets in, this new system is going to create too big of a backlog, his only chance will be with the veteran committee some day down the line. Luke not being a 1st ballot would have been acceptable because of his short career, just not when they didn't have a full class, leaving 2 open spots and not putting Kuechly in is a travesty, and an indication of how dumb this new voting process is.

lol I was just thinking this when reading that other thread that just got started where the guy said he likes a Safety at #8. Yea, I'd love one of those major impact Safeties that we haven't seemed to have in forever, but I don't think there is an Ed Reed in this class, just seems like it would be a waste at #8 to go that way. I'd rather take the TE from Penn State at 8 than go with a Safety, and I couldn't be more against doing that anyways. OL and S might be the only two positions I'd have a serious issue with if we used #8 on those positions, anything else could be justified, I'd even take an elite MLB over either of those two (if there was one we liked enough, but don't think there is this year anyways).

I'm just happy to not see a thread today asking us to trade for Deebo since the 49ers said they're looking to trade him after he asked to be. He can be a useful player on the right team with the right coaching staff, but his contract is just too big for what he is as an actual WR, where he's average at best, in 6 years he's only had over 892 yards once

This is also kills anyones dream of trading for Wilson, as I can't see any way they even consider moving him if they're moving on from Rodgers, as his issue has been Rodgers, not the team in general.

Yup There is no perfect prospect, a weakness doesn't mean he's bad at it, just that it could be better. He’s not doing the things he did in college if he has trouble separating in the way people make it seem on here. People here are still too hung up on the contested catch statistic that popped up on here a few months ago and the other draft busts who were also on the list. They ignored that the next guys on the list would have been I think Chase and Jefferson, or that the reason for so many of the contested catches were due to double/triple teams and not inability to separate. When you’re doubled on just about every snap, it’s hard to not have contested targets, he’s just good enough to still make the plays.

These two aren't even close to the same thing T-Mac has true elite physical capabilities outside of his speed. Bryce still needs to be the biggest physical outlier in the history of the sport to be successful in the NFL. And that's before even considering that for a year and a half of Bryce's career he looked like he couldn't make a CFL team. I'd say T-Mac will make a Pro Bowl before Bryce, but these days it does seem like any QB with a pulse ends up getting named to the Pro Bowl at some point with how often they back out of it and the next one gets named, who ends up also not going and they just keep going down the list. I mean, I like Maye's potential, but in what world is THAT a Pro Bowl season he just had.

In what way does the NFL let everyone in the HOF and that it's too easy to get in? 5 players get in every year (only looking at the modern era voting, not senior committee). There are 7 different types of positions in the league if you group them together as QB, RB, WR/TE, OL, DL, LB, DB. It's also nearly impossible to accurately compare the impact of an elite player at one position to another, QB's aside. How do you really compare the impact of a HOF caliber LB to a HOF caliber WR? It was already the hardest HOF to get into because of those factors and they just made it sooooooooo much harder for players to get into in the future, to the point where players that even the voters would agree should be in the HOF, won't get in. This isn't the Basketball HOF where there are tons of non worthy people who get in. If you make it to the Final 7 of the HOF voting in the NFL, you're more than qualified and deserving to make it. You shouldn't be kept out because 20 of the 49 voters were split between say putting Kuechly or Holt going into the HOF that year over the other, they both should be in. Because it's also not even about being in just the Top 7 of voting, it means you can come in 4th and still not make it because you "only" got 39 of the 49 final votes as those other 10 voted for Holt instead who should have been in years ago, which is just insane.