tukafan21

Tonight might have done more harm to Bryce's future as a Panther than last week did good. Coming off a game like last week and on MNF, it was his chance to prove last week wasn't an anomaly and that he finally turned a corner. But he wasn't even average, he was so bad on a national stage that it's going to be hard for anyone to honestly defend him at this point. He's just not the guy and keeping him around is only going to delay the start of our future, trade him for whatever the best offer is in the offseason and turn the page.

We’ve targeted T-Mac in the red zone in basically two games, he has 4 TDs in those games. Why do we refuse to throw him a jump ball in the end zone?

That was really bad, can’t drop those

Need 8 catches for 119 yards and a TD from T-Mac tonight to stay alive in my fantasy playoff hunt.

I think why we haven't been moving him around much to get better matchups is less about T-Mac and much more about the rest of the WR room. Realistically, T-Mac is our only true outside WR we have right now, all out other WRs are better suited out of the slot. So if you move T-Mac into the slot to get him better matchups, you're then also downgrading your matchups elsewhere in the process. If the other team realizes this and then explicitly doubles T-Mac to force you to throw to those lesser matchups, we've then shot ourselves in the foot.

Eh, that’s a lot tougher to call in real time, it’s only on the super slow motion can you tell when someone moved a split second too early. These are just so blatantly obvious, saw one today where the player had to have moved a good 2 full yards towards the LOS before it was snapped, was crazy to not be called (might have been DK Metcalf, but don’t remember for sure)

Has the league just decided they don't care about calling this a penalty anymore? It's crazy how many times every week players are moving towards the LOS while in motion when the ball is snapped, sometimes it's pretty egregious too. This really shouldn't even be a hard one to call, it's so obvious when a player is running in motion while drifting towards the LOS, and sometimes it's not even a drift as much as clearly running on an angle towards the LOS and not parallel to it. It's slowly gotten worse over the last few years, but this year there seems to be really bad ones and I'm not sure I've ever seen it called a penalty.

I honestly don't know what to think about potentially targeting him in the offseason. On one hand, if he's the Aiyuk of pre-injury and leaves the diva attitude in SF, then I'd be all for bringing him in and trading XL for whatever we can get. A WR room of T-Mac, Aiyuk, Coker, Horn Jr has some seriously high potential. But on the other hand, something hasn't smelled right about Aiyuk since his holdout last year began, and now things just seem even crazier of course. Have a feeling this could very well be an Antonio Brown situation, where old teammates of him said they could see it coming, as soon as he got his first big extension, he became a problem off the field. I think in the end, he'll garner offers that are high enough that I'm good just not even trying to go after him, but if teams are scared off and he has to sign a cheap prove it deal, I wouldn't hate the team exploring it.

With a strong finish to the season, he has a real chance at being just the 3rd Panther to make the Pro Bowl in their rookie season (and just the 2nd as a non special teamer) after Cam and Smitty. He won't make it on the original selections, not over JSN, Puka, Pickens, St Brown, London, Jefferson who should all finish with at least the same amount of yards and TDs, if not more. No rookie is getting selected over all those big name vets with similar statistical seasons. But a couple injuries and/or reaching the NFC Championship and pulling out of the Pro Bowl, he very well could be one of the first couple alternates and end up making it. Last year the NFC ended up with 7 WRs making it in the end after players who pulled out got replaced.

I mean, I didn't hate the pick, always thought he had some potential, not sure if I was sold on him pre-draft though to be honest

Was just thinking about it, and the game Bryce just had was probably the absolute worst thing that could have happened for our chances in this upcoming game. We beat the Packers for the same reason we lost to the Saints. We didn't take the Saints seriously while looking ahead to the Falcons during the week and they took advantage of it, just as the Packers didn't take us seriously while looking ahead to the Eagles and we took advantage of it. Bryce having that game just now put the 49ers on full alert this week in practice, combined with a MNF game where they don't want to get embarrassed by losing to the Panthers on that stage, and I think we're getting their absolute best this week. It also doesn't help that the 49ers next 2 games are the Browns and Titans, so they certainly aren't looking ahead in their schedule this week.

"Fake Fans" are the ones who just stop caring, watching, all of it, when the team is bad and then come back around when they're good and pretend to always have been a die hard fan. You can disagree with the people who don't think Bryce is a long term solution, but it's just so dumb when people say they're "fake fans" or something similar. Just on it's face, that they're so frustrated with his play at times, even in wins, that they take the time to talk about it on an online message board, is proof that they're real fans, just ones you disagree with on a viewpoint of something.

I mean, Penix didn't look terrible last year in his limited snaps. And they were an 8-9 team that lost nobody of note and added a few other solid pieces before they made that trade. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to have expected to improve this season. There is no way they expected Penix to regress and for their season to implode as it has. Also don't think it's anywhere near the logic of the Bryce trade, we were nowhere near as the year before that as the Falcons were last year. We didn't have any offensive weapons close to Bijan or London. And they only traded one future first to take a pass rusher in the 1st, not trading away the farm to bet on a prospect the team at #1 could have used but decided to trade it instead.

Eh, not totally true The 2026 draft class as a whole was looking on the weaker side, combine that with the Falcons expecting to have a legit playoff team this year, and it did kind of make sense at the time. They thought they were getting a great player for what they expected to be a pick in the 20's in a weak draft. Not saying I'd have done it either, just that I do get their thinking on it that way.

He definitely got a lot of snaps out of the slot, but this isn't a remotely true statement

I mean, sure, they're both "from California", but they're both from So Cal, playing in SF is basically the same distance from their hometowns as playing in Cincinnati would be for someone from Charlotte. Just sayin' lol

Just saw something similar in an article, so went and looked, and T-Mac vs the rest of the team in receiving stats is kinda crazy. Our 2nd-4th leading pass catchers (XL, Rico, Tremble) have a combined 645 yards, or 103 yards less than T-Mac has by himself Or... T-Mac has 73 more yards than all of our other WRs combined

I'll be honest, I don't really know exactly what goes into PFF grades, but I'm surprised an 8 catch, 130 yard, 2 TD game with no drops didn't grade out higher than a 77.

I almost fully expect this to be a problem this week and then the team will sit him, knowing a return to a performance like against the Saints could really mess with everyone's thinking of Bryce after this game. Just seeing that hobble to the podium after the game, he's going to be a real question mark as to if he can suit up Monday night I think.

lol no, sorry, but just no. Yes, I agree, an elite WR is more valuable than an RB, but CMC isn't a RB. He's a true offensive weapon who is just different than almost any RB before him, he's legitimately the best pass catching RB of all time. Having a player who can do what he does is way more valuable than any WR you can have, if you throw health concerns aside (and current age), there isn't a non QB offensive player in the entire NFL that I'd take before CMC if building a team for one season right now. CMC is looking at a first ballot HOF career, I don't care how good T-Mac looks, or how big of a fan you are of him (c'mon, just look at who is making this particular post), there is no logical way to make an argument at the moment that T-Mac has a chance at being a better player than CMC. That's not to say he can't of course, anything can happen, but if T-Mac ends up a better player than CMC, than he's going to be a no brainer first ballot HOFer, which is just insane to predict for any player 11 games into their career, I don't care who they are or what they've done during said rookie season. If they re-did the 2017 draft, CMC actually moves up in the draft and would go 3rd or 4th after Mahomes, Garrett, and then I think there would actually be a possible debate of him vs TJ Watt. Notably given your argument, he'd still for sure be drafted over Cooper Kupp.

CMC will have a Smitty on the Ravens vs Panthers type of performance. 150+ yards from scrimmage and 2 TDs I'm done trying to predict what our own team will do, this is the most unpredictable Panthers team I can remember

I think next week he should move into 3rd in receptions and 2nd in yards in a season by a rookie in team history. He's 1 behind DJ in receptions (on pace to beat CMC's record of 80 by 4) and 6 yards behind Colbert and 40 behind DJ in yards (and on pace to beat KB's record of 1,008 by about 150)

I get that, and all I'm saying is I feel like CMC is going to take this game personally and on the big MNF stage, is going to put an ass whopping on us. I'm still of the belief that a healthy and motivated CMC is still the best non QB in the entire NFL

In SF on MNF CMC is about to put a Smitty like beating on us with that kind of stage, not sure how beatable they're going to be with him doing that.

Looks like someone has been going back and re-reading my posts about him from almost 2 years ago LOL. Green has always been my comp of him going back to his Freshman year in school. And the thing I kept saying in the lead to the draft that people thought made me sound crazy, was that I said by the time he signed his rookie extension, he'd be a clear Top 10 WR who is considered by some (or many?) to be a Top 5 WR.