tukafan21

the discussion was about arm strength, you posted a video about arm strength, so why bring up pressure/crowded pockets? odd

Not sure this video makes the argument that you think it does First pass was about 55 air yards, actually probably a few yards less, second pass only went 50, the third one was about 60, maybe a yard or two less. If that's the video that shows off his max arm strength, then it's easily bottom half of the NFL among starting QB's and likely in the bottom 10 in the end. Again, it's adequate and serviceable, but the top strong armed QB's can throw it that far from a crowded pocket with the flick of the wrist, he needed perfectly clean pocket and be able to step into those throws as clean as can be to get it there. And again, as I pointed out in my last post, it's less even about being able to make that throw as much as just having the threat of it in your back pocket to keep a safety deeper. There are a lot of positives about Bryce that people can talk up, but arm strength just isn't one of them, it's probably his biggest actual weakness if you don't count injury concern as that's not quite as tangible of a thing like arm strength is.

This is surprising to me, odds are he doesn't have the cash on hand to buy too significant of a stake in the team, which if that's the case, I'm surprised that Kraft doesn't offer up to Brady the same percentage stake in the Patriots. With what NFL franchises are selling for, even $200 Million would probably only be between 5% of the franchise, if even that much, gotta think the Raiders are worth more than the Redskins that just sold for $6 Billion or the Broncos that went for $4 Billion. I'd think 5% of the Patriots would be worth it to Kraft to keep Brady in the family and not have him now tied at the hip to another franchise, particularly in the AFC. Especially since he wouldn't be just giving it to him for free, he'd make a couple hundred million on it (and that's if he's even investing that much, could be even less).

I think what people are missing in the arm strength debate with Bryce, is that yes, he has an adequate arm, which allows him to make all the throws with the necessary zip on them, but that's because he knows his limits and stays within them, which is great. But he just flat out doesn't have that monster arm strength, and even with an NFL workout regimen, he's never going to have THAT kind of arm, which isn't the worst thing as many NFL QB's have been successful without it. However, it does eliminate a growing element in the NFL today, and that's the uber deep ball to a speedster running a go-route. Beyond it just being a great weapon to have as it can create monster game-changing plays, it also helps force defenses to account for it on every snap and tends to keep a safety deeper and thus take a defender out of the play on many snaps. We won't ever have that with Bryce unfortunately, and for as great as Tyreek was with the Dolphins last year, it was clear that Tua doesn't have that monster arm either and it hurt their ability to tell Tyreek to run as fast as he can and just outrun everyone for a 70 yard bomb that guys like Mahomes can throw. So many times last year Tyreek had the defense woefully beat and was already running behind them when he had to slow up and almost stop to catch the pass because Tua couldn't throw it far enough to allow him to keep running. So I think people knocking his arm strength, at least I know it is with myself, isn't about him not being able to make the throws that he needs to make, but that it eliminates the possibility of a play that is becoming very useful in today's NFL, that's all.

Ugh another season with Week 14 byes? Screws things up for fantasy football, last bye should be Week 13. And before anyone says it’s dumb to cater to fantasy football… fantasy football is why the NFL is as big as it is today, the explosion in media money over the last 20 years is a direct result of fantasy football driving interest in so many people who don’t care about the NFL outside of fantasy.

I agree with that, my pointing out of better opponents for storyline sake wasn't about the matchups being in week 2 but on MNF in general. I'd think Bryce vs AR along with the Reich side of it on MNF is significantly more interesting than Bryce vs Carr and a divisional matchup early in the season.

0% chance of this happening, same with us and Corral, in the end, someone would give up at minimum a late round pick to get them before they get cut and can sign with anyone. Neither may be on their current teams come Week 1, but neither will be cut

That's fair, but if that's the case, there are so many better matchups they could have done that would help draw in more viewers. As on the surface, even with the #1 pick in the game, Panthers-Saints Week 2 seems about as uninspiring of a national interest in a matchup as possible. Texans would have the picks 1-2 storyline, Colts would have Reich against his old team and maybe AR-Bryce, Bears would be DJ and the team that traded the #1 pick, Jags would be the two most recent #1 pick QBs, Dolphins would have two former Alabama QB's against each other, and Cowboys are the Cowboys, hell, either Bucs game would bring in the Baker storyline too. All would be way more interesting matchups for MNF if they were looking to get Bryce that spotlight. That part makes sense to do with the latest #1 pick, it's them doing it in Week 2 against the Saints that seems odd to me, that early in the season, the only storyline is that we're division rivals.

MNF against the Saints in week 2? That would be surprising for the league to do, no interesting storylines between two teams that don't have much of a national following, have a hard time believing that one.

There is no circumstance other than Young getting hurt in the pre-season and needing to go on IR that would end up with him having a redshirt season. We traded a ton to go up to #1 to have our choice of QB's and took the player who was supposed to be the most pro ready QB in decades, if he isn't starting week 1 it's a disaster, if he needs a redshirt season to bulk up, there would be a mutiny by the fans and BOA would get burned to the ground.

Put Bryce's brain in Darnold's head and that player could end up the best QB of all time But unfortunately Darnold has his own brain which just breaks down at the worst times and the ghosts come back out to play

I think they very easily could have named him QB1 right now without any problem. When Dalton signed, he was saying that he did it knowing he was here to support the #1 pick as his backup, he doesn't expect to be given a fair shot at winning the job by outplaying Bryce in camp. Everyone knows that Bryce is our best chance at winning both now and in the future, he needs to get the first snap when the rookies can practice with the vets. Like others have stated, he needs as many reps with the starters as possible so we go into Week 1 as ready as we can be, not still trying to get on the same page. They can say that's exactly why he's QB1 right now, but that he still has to go out there and earn the right to keep that job, that if he is just terrible in camp and pre-season, Dalton might have to step in until he's ready. It's not about the name of QB1 or QB2, it's about the reps with the players who will be starting in Week 1. Hell, you could say Dalton is QB1 but giving Bryce the first snaps with the starers to get him the reps if you want, name doesn't matter, just the reps.

Fields was nowhere near as pro-ready as Bryce is, night and day difference.

Guessing this has been discussed within a thread, but not seeing a dedicated one to it and don't want to dig to find where it's being discussed, so if there is already one out there, sorry for this if there is an ongoing discussion of this already. I have no problem with them taking this standpoint at this moment before he's even had rookie mini camp, but by the time real training camp starts, this needs to end and he needs to be taking first reps with the starting unit from day 1. It didn't work for the Jags 2 years ago with Lawrence, they knew he'd be the starter but by having him in a "true competition" it just took away much needed snaps with the first team offense and it didn't go well for them.

Yea, this I don't think anyone heard he signed that deal and said, "I think he'll be good at that" Was basically the obvious and I'm guessing he realized it and doesn't want to look bad when they fire him after 1 season because of how terrible he was.

They gave him $4 Billion, in no world is he ripping up that contract and laughing. I'm quite sure even at that amount, he is still getting Star Wars royalties in some way, as both he and Disney knew they'd make exponentially more money than that while he was still alive, I'm sure he still gets a small cut of profits. EDIT: Looked it up after posting that, he actually took only half the payment in cash, the rest was in stock. From an article from 2 years ago, it said he already had been paid about $500 Million in dividends alone in the time since the sale, and that's in addition to the $2 Billion in stock going up to almost $8 Billion in valuation.

I have to imagine that the teams playing a "home" game internationally will still get 8 home games though now with the 17 game season. Would be pretty messed up to have then play 7 games at home, 9 games on the road, and then an international "home" game as well. So at least there's that.

Why???? The glory of MNF is that it's the last game of the week, gets all the attention, it's part of what makes it special. No reason to add more multi-MNF weeks other than pure greed by the league/owners at no real added value to the fans.

Would be cool of Bryce to offer to pay for whatever Corral would have needed to pay to switch numbers, as I'm sure there was some Corral jerseys in stock that he had to buy back. Bryce probably already has made more money through his endorsements than Corral's entire rookie contract was worth, he's already signed deals with multiple big name brands, and that's before his rookie contract which in itself would be substantial. I know these guys aren't just throwing away money for no reason, but I think it would be a nice touch by Bryce and help him earn some immediate respect/leadership points in the locker room. I doubt it was like with CMC where he'd have needed to spend millions to buy back the jerseys, probably a minimal amount that Bryce could easily afford right now and not even notice.

It's called a joke and the perfect GIF/meme to fit it, calm down. Pretty likely that he asked for #2 the second DJ was traded anyways, but even he didn't, if I'm the team I'm taking his number from him and giving it to the #1 pick, particularly after that IG post. I'd have done it to Clausen too if it was up to me to be frank. I'm sorry, but once you take a QB #1, it's clear it is their franchise moving forward, doesn't matter if you were drafted well the year before, you're now a backup at best, sorry kid, that's the NFL. He literally never suited up in a regular season game because he was hurt and is already unlikely to suit up this year outside of injury needs, the number belongs to the #1 pick and franchise QB, sorry kid.

I hear nothing wrong there First, there is no problem at all if he was drunk or high there. You could hear there were a ton of people in the background, clearly having a draft party. Do you really think there isn't drinking and/or smoking going on at every one of these draft parties? They're not getting drafted like a pickup basketball game and needing to jump right into the game, it would be perfectly acceptable if they were enjoying the party like any other 24 year old. It's not like the guy showed up drunk to the green room at the draft, that would be concerning. Second, there are always delayed responses on those calls and the coaches all know it. Whether it's their emotions making them take a beat before getting a response out or just family not being able to control themselves and hugging, high five-ing, talking to you, etc.

Once that initial FA spree is over, a lot of teams try to wait to finish up their signings until this point in time so signings don’t negate compensatory picks for lost FA’s. I expect to see a flurry of deals throughout the league the rest of the week, many of them likely agreed to weeks ago and just waited to make it official for the above reason.

We will play one of the Texans, Bears, Bucs in Week 1, and I think the ranking is in that order in terms of most likely to happen (I think the Bucs game in Carolina will be a TNF game personally). But I did see the other day that they think the 49ers Week 1 starting job very well could be an open competition between Darnold and Lance if Purdy isn't ready. If that's the case, I'd bet Darnold is the Week 1 starter for a few reasons. The first is just that he was always a good camp/practice QB, he just struggles in games, so he should be better than Lance leading into Week 1 to win the job. The second is that if the 49ers are really sold on Purdy being their guy, I don't think they'll want to play Lance unless they really have to. As if he sucks, it hurts his trade value, and if he's decent, it can throw a wrench into their plans to move forward with Purdy. So assuming Darnold is their Week 1 starter, I could see them playing the Bucs in week 1 to get that Darnold-Baker matchup, would just be interesting after them both being here last year.