tukafan21

Honestly, I think we have a chance at having a very fluid set of roles. All 3 of T-Mac, Coker, and Brazzell seem like they can bring something from both the outside and the slot. We saw last year how well T-Mac did when we would line him up in the slot and get mismatches, especially the quick slants (something he was great at in college too). Problem was that he was just far too valuable for us on the outside as for most of the year we didn't have anyone else who could remotely play that role until Coker came on strong late. I very well could see us line up with any of the 3 in any spot in the formation depending what we're trying to accomplish on the play.

Exactly He's only a Coker replacement if he absolutely blows up by the end of 2027 and we have to choose between paying 2 of T-Mac, Coker, and Brazzell, and even then, it still might be Coker if he keeps progressing himself. That's why I was so against a WR in the 1st, as it would guarantee one of them is gone by then. If a 3rd rounder forces us to make that call, totally worth it, but you don't want to get into that position with 1st round picks, they're too valuable.

Fair, and that was my first post on the pick as well, that I like the speed, but it seems more straight line and not quick twitch in the slot. Which is why I'm wondering if they're higher on Horn Jr than we might have thought. If he can be that guy for us it would be great, as we still have him on a cheap deal for 3 more years and that's the type of guy you just replace instead of extend when you have the studs on the outside like T-Mac, Coker, and maybe Brazzell.

And 3, teams weren't afraid of XL making the catch anyways so they didn't bother keeping a safety deep. Also, even with the speed XL has, it's not like he ever really just beats the defense on go routes, Brazzell's highlight reel looks like he will do that.

The thought of this is so tantalizing. Bring in a strong armed replacement for Bryce and it would fully unlock all 3 of T-Mac, Coker, and Brazzell. It would open up T-Mac's downfield jump ball threat like he was in college with Brazzell's speed taking the top off, both of which would then open up the middle of the field for Coker to feast.

It's Horn vs Metchie, one of them is making the final roster, I'm hoping for Horn. They're the only two quick twitch types right now and we have to keep one of them because of that.

I smell a lot of decoy routes to get T-Mac one on one coverage by forcing the safety to stay deep to help on Brazzell, maybe, not sure if teams will be afraid of Bryce throwing that though.

Maybe this means the team likes Horn Jr’s potential this year and he’s going to be the quick twitch guy playing in the slot a lot. This then makes this pick a pure XL replacement and his role is as the guy to give T-Mac and Coker breathers while having big play potential when doing so. Could also see him lined up in the slot next to T-Mac a lot and having him run go routes, would be a great way to keep the safety from doubling T-Mac because they have to protect against the speed.

Eh… like the 4.37 speed, but from the highlights they showed, it looks more like a straight line speed and not the quick shifty slot that we needed. Just don’t see Bryce being able to take advantage of this type of weapon with his arm.

I'm surprised we didn't take the Safety from Toledo

If you have conviction on a QB, even if you think you can do that, it wouldn't be smart, you just have to take him. If they traded back it would have been a clear signal to the league what they were doing it for, as it wasn't a secret that they liked him. Doing that then signals to the Cardinals, Jets, or whoever else that they need to trade up ahead of them to get him.

If we trade up, should be for Stukes

Taking a Wildcat worked out well for us last year, so let's dip back in that well and get Stukes

We have 17 games without our LT and we signed someone who should have been at worst an adequate starter this year. Not a fan of using this pick on someone who will start down the line for us when we could have taken a week 1 impact player like Thieneman. I’ve said it since Ickey went down, a starting LT was my #1 want in the first, but if they weren’t a week 1 starter, I didn’t think the value would be there for it to be a smart pick.

As long as he’s starting at LT week 1 then I love this, if he can’t beat out the guy we signed from the Packers then this will look rough. But now let’s move up a little bit in the 2nd and go get Stukes an I’ll be much happier about passing on Thieneman there.

They might, but I also think McVay wants Stafford's replacement to spend at least 1 season learning behind him, so if they feel strongly enough about someone this year, they're going to take them if possible. And the kid from Alabama is exactly the type of prospect that needs a redshirt year in the NFL to learn from a vet, seeing as he made so few starts in college. If they make a deep playoff run and then Stafford retires, it will be much harder to replace him with a late 1st and needing to start him right away (or sign another gap year starter).

I think the Rams are a very real possibility to see trade into the back end of the 1st to take him. All reports are that they really like him, and Stafford doesn't have all too much longer left in him, if they like him as much as the rumors, I can see them giving up their 1st next year to get back in and take him to sit and learn from Stafford for a year or two before taking over. But all it takes is 2 teams and it can create a trade bidding war to make sure you get back into the 1st before the other does.

Gross If we go OT in the 1st, it NEEDS to be someone who can play LT. Taking a pure RT means they only see the field if Moton gets hurt, and I can never get behind taking a player in the 1st round that you legitimately hope doesn't see a single snap all season long.

It's not about the teams behind us taking a QB, but it would come down to how much the Cardinals like him and if they're afraid of someone else trading into say 22-24 range to take him. SOMEONE will trade into 30-32 to take him at the worst, so I think if a team like the Cardinals or Jets fell in love with him during the pre-draft process, they'd be looking to trade into the early 20's to get him. If both teams think the other have the same plans, 19 is a great place for them to jump up to so they can grab him. I put it at like 1% chance of happening, but that's why I said it's my dream scenario. As if Bryce shows he's not the guy, we have two 1sts next year to fix QB. And if he shocks me and shows he can be the long term guy, it gives us 2 firsts to put some hopefully day 1 impact players out there for a legit SB push.

If I had to pick one player from the draft for us to get, he's the guy, but he's not falling all the way to us. I have said numerous times though, if he finds a way to fall out of the Top 10, Dan should be real aggressive to move up to get him, I'd be fine with anything that doesn't involve next year's 1st.

Oh, and I'll add to mine and be a little greedy. After we get that high 2nd rounder, we then draft Stukes out of Arizona for 2 years in a row of taking a Wildcat with our 1st pick, lol

Kinda crazy they've never taken a Clemson player even in the late rounds (T-Mac was actually the first Arizona player ever drafted by us, we were the last team to have never drafted a Wildcat) And I of course agree, best case scenario and one that honestly doesn't seem too far fetched if the Cardinals are high on the kid from Alabama and are afraid of someone else getting him in the early-mid 20's. I'm absolutely not expecting it, but like I said, if I could pick one way tonight plays out, that's it.

OT is at the top of my want list if we stay at 19, but with a huge caveat being it NEEDS to be an immediate Week 1 starter at LT. Yes, we need OT depth, but with Moton and the guy we signed from GB, realistically we should be set at starting OT going into the season. And there is just no scenario where a team should ever be using a 1st on someone who isn't expected to be a day 1 starter, a QB, or a RB who has an immediate major role in a 2 RB committee. So if the right OT falls to us and we think/know he'll be our Week 1 starter at LT, then I'm good with it, if not and we still stay at 19, I think it should be S, ILB, or TE in that order.

Only one answer allowed, so not a list of players or multiple options. So if you could just pick one thing to happen and it plays out, what would it be? Mine is a team who wants a QB in the 1st gives us an early 2nd and a 2027 1st to move up to 19 to take a QB (maybe Cardinals?)