tukafan21

His Cap hit is 30, his salary is 19.5, which means he'd only be 19.5 towards our cap as the 30 includes the portion of his signing bonus. Sign him to a 1-2 year extension at the same time and we can lower that cap hit by a decent amount and structure it in a way that it really doesn't hurt us in the future much either.

What about something like Corral and a 2024 4th or 5th round pick for Hopkins? I'm guessing they're looking for a 3rd for Hop, but something like that could work and I think it would be totally worth it for us to do. They might not want to pay for a FA QB if they think Kyler won't miss much time, could be an interesting trade as Corral at least would likely fit in the same offense they put together for Kyler.

Buh Bye Have Cade be the swing interior lineman who can back up all 3 positions, put that money towards WR or TE

3 years and $18 Million?!?!?! What a GREAT deal for us, out-freaking-standing

I know everyone wants Foreman back, but what does everyone think about maybe trying to bring in Mattison? He has looked great whenever Cook has been injured, doesn't have a ton of wear and tear on his body, I think he'd be a great pick up.

They're not going to make these kids look bad, but I'd bet money that teams, at least the smart ones, give guys like Mooch and Gruden in the past a call and ask them how those interviews really went, and I'm sure they're honest with the teams about it.

Don’t get the Two Gloves hate, nobody is saying to bring him in as a starter, seems like a perfect fit to backup and help teach a rookie QB, he’s a pro’s pro

Browns just re-signed their center for 3 years and $18 million. Has to be a great sign for us to be able to afford Bozeman

Love it, feels like a nice 2 for 1 signing in that it also addresses LB need by moving Chinn back there, where he should be more impactful player. I know he was already a LB as a rookie, but I would love to see Chinn seek out TD this offseason to pick his ear about moving from Safety to LB and putting on good weight to do it the right way. Can't think of a better person or player to help guide him there.

Players say it, and sure, it might be a small factor, but I don't think it really affects their final decisions all that much. The way being paid in the NFL works, you're taxed based on where the game is played. So even if you live in a state with no income tax, that only helps you for half of your contract. So let's say you sign with Miami, great, you get half of your salary with no state income tax. But it also means you play two games a year in New York/NJ against the Bills and Jets, high tax rates there. They also play in California this upcoming season as well, there's a 3rd state with a high tax rate that you're paying this year too. So in the end, I'm just not sure how much of a factor it really plays for these guys

Yes and no We're officially the worst "placeholder" option out there since the expectation would be that if any Rookie QB was going to start from day 1, it would be the first one taken. The Colts are likely to end up with someone who won't be ready to start week 1, same with whoever gets the other QB from the top 4 of them. The Cardinals "placeholder" is likely to start the year as the starter, and who knows how long it will take Kyler to be ready, it could be a significant portion of the season that they get to play. Nobody knows what is going on with the Jets yet, same goes for the Falcons and Bucs starting jobs too. So it's not a matter of other teams or those players thinking they're legitimate starters, there are just other better opportunities out there for places to get early playing time than here.

Has literally nothing to do with the player himself. But he's a run stuffing big man DT, you can find them in the draft or on cheaper contracts later in FA. It's more that we have limited FA budget and have other positions of need that we need to land some more impactful players. I'd just rather not open FA by putting part of that cap space towards a guy we could easily have found a similar level replacement for down the line.

He's a JAG, nothing against him, but I don't think he's a good enough TE to warrant spending FA money on him

(this is regards to signing him, not about him being a FA lol)

Would likely mean no Shultz then, which is a bit disappointing, think he'd be perfect for a rookie QB. Maybe Gesicki now?

Seriously?!?! We're giving $13 million guaranteed to a DT nobody has heard of right off the bat in FA?!?!? Good thing we don't have more important holes out there like WR, TE, CB, DE, LB

Unless a team is just really stupid and gives us a 3rd rounder for him, I don't see the value in trading him, even more so if the NFL ends up adjusting their rules this year to allow for every team to dress an emergency 3rd QB without it counting towards the game day roster limits. He's going to be better than almost any other 3rd stringer out there, so assuming we sign a vet to back up the rookie, I think his value is best as our 3rd stringer than trade him for a late round pick that is likely to get cut or IR'd in camp after breaking a toe nail.

The Raiders can and will Short of them finding a way to trade up and get Stroud or Young, their Week 1 starting QB is going to be a Free Agent signing. They're in a much more "win now" mode than any of the other teams looking for a QB not named the Jets (who also could give him that starting job if they don't land Rodgers). Beyond them, the Commanders and Bucs can more or less give him that guarantee as well. After that, signing with the Colts or Falcons would give him a significantly better chance at starting than over the #1 pick in the draft as well.

I love Ekeler the player, but he's asking for a trade because he wants an extension and the Chargers don't want to give him one. In a vacuum I'd be fine with it, but not a few months after we traded away a better and younger player in CMC.

Nobody said anything about him being a franchise savior. But given his history and actual level of QB play, he's not signing with the team with the first overall pick, he's going somewhere that he'll be locked in as the Week 1 starter as soon as he signs.

I love Cam, I was even on board in bringing him back last year, he's my QB. But he's not the right guy to be the backup to the #1 pick, at least not here. That's WAY too big of a distraction for a rookie QB, you can't draft him and then sign our last #1 pick and an MVP to be his backup/mentor. It just would create a level of awkwardness when your backup QB is more loved by the fan base than the #1 draft pick. It's one thing to do it a couple years ago when Darnold was struggling and then got hurt, but you can't do it to a rookie #1 draft pick. It would be like the Lions trading up to #1, drafting one of these QBs and then re-trading for Stafford. It would just be too awkward of a situation to want to put your #1 draft pick and future of your franchise into. Sure it could end up working out in the end, but it's definitely not setting him up for success from the start.

Huh? I think you mis-read that, because I didn't give Minshew any credit for anything. I was saying he was a 3rd year player trying to win the starting job in camp, not trying to help mentor Lawrence, and then they traded him before the season began. Yes, competent coaching helped Lawrence make a big jump this year, but I think him not having a solid veteran presence in the QB room with him as a rookie hurt his development that year.

Yes and no He'll do that, but you still need a player and not a coach to be that guy for a rookie QB, it needs to be a peer, not one of his coaches. When McCown gets on him for doing something wrong, he needs that vet QB to then pull him aside afterwards and be his friend, it's not a coaches job to be the friend, it's to coach. He needs that vet to be in the locker next to his and talking to him all the time, coaches don't spend a ton of time in the locker room itself, that's the player's area. I think it's one of the reasons Lawrence had a rough rookie year. He had a demanding coach in Urban, but he didn't have that vet QB to help him along, he had Minshew who was trying to beat him out for the job in camp and then CJ Bethard as his backup during the season. We need the Derek Anderson to Cam Newton for this rookie

I think we keep Corral as the #3 for now unless someone makes us an offer that we can't turn down (which I don't think happens unless he balls out in the pre-season). But we have to have a solid vet QB in the room to help teach the rookie, who do we think that will be? Personally I don't at all want it to be Darnold, sure he played decent late in the year, but his biggest issue was struggling to process things at an NFL level, not the type of guy we want mentoring a rookie QB. Jimmy G likely wouldn't be wanting to step into a situation where he might be overtaken as the starter by week 1 or at worst, know he's only a placeholder for 1 season at the very most. Heinicke's game is too much of a gunslinger, not who I'd want mentoring the rookie Baker, Drew Lock, Wentz, lol I'd have to lean towards Dalton, Brissett, or believe it or not, Teddy Two Gloves again. None of them would be signing with the expectation that they're guaranteed to start week 1, they're all very seasoned pros who know how to go about their business properly and would likely be good mentors for a rookie QB. If none of them work, on a personal note since I'm an Arizona alum, I'd love for us to sign Foles. He would be familiar with Reich, not expecting to start, and sure, his game might be spent, but I think he'd at least be a good mentor for a young QB.

No chance 100% chance that picks 1 and 2 will be QB's, 98% chance the Colts take a QB at #4 (and that might be a low percentage). There are way too many QB needy teams right now that won't pass up on either Richardson or Levis (whichever isn't taken from those 3 picks above) in the first round. Hell, even if you wanted to make arguments that the 4th won't go in the Top 10 in the end, I'd be willing to guarantee there is no way a 4th QB slips past #20, likely not past #18. The Lions and Seahawks are both in situations where they have temporary starting QB's and need a QB of the future, and both of them have 2 first rounders. I can't see a scenario where their second picks come up at 18 and 20 and one of them doesn't take that 4th QB if for some wild reason they're still sitting out there (they're both rumored to be considering a QB with their first pick as is). It's one thing for them to want to use their Top 10 picks on players that can help them win now, but I don't think they'd pass on the QB with their second picks in the round. Beyond them, I don't think Washington would pass on someone at 16, depending what happens with the Jets and Rodgers, they might not pass on one at 13 either, and I'd think the Bucs would also jump at any of the 4 QB's if one fell to them at 19. And all of that is if someone other than the Colts doesn't trade up to #3 (if that happens, QB's are going 1-4) and if both the Raiders and Falcons pass on one as well. TLDR.... 0% chance the 4th QB falls out of the first, I'd say 5% chance they fall outside the Top 20, and probably only a 10-15% chance they fall outside the Top 10.