tukafan21

That's actually exactly why trading up 1 pick was a great move. We're not going to be winning for a few more years, so it gets us an extra year of contract control on him, to align when we're hopefully going to be winning games again.

It's unlikely, and realistically it would probably need to be that 2nd next year and maybe a 4th this year, but even that I'd be okay with since we'd have still picked up 52 out of it. Would take a team right now just not loving anyone and nobody else out bidding us, which again seems unlikely, but there are a few guys still out there (like the CB's) that I really want right now

We need to immediately try and trade that Rams 2025 2nd to get back into the next 5 picks or so, while not giving up the 52nd we just got. Maybe try to give up the 2 picks we just got to move back into the next 5 picks, get one of the players we could have taken here while also picking up 52 out of it. I'd be ecstatic to do that right now.

I'd be okay with next year's 2nd and say, a 4th this year as well, maybe even their 3rd That's a HUGE drop with the players currently on the board

Traded all the way down to 52?!?!?!! Why do I feel like I'm going to be very underwhelmed with the return we got. Better have gotten multiple picks, maybe even their 2nd next year, that's a big drop with the players still on the board right now.

Please just take one of these CB's who shouldn't have fallen this far I would be okay with a trade back as long as it's no more than 3-5 spots lower than we're currently at, as there are enough players I like right now that I'd be good with taking in that range. But only if a team overpays to do so, such as giving us like an early 3rd rounder to do so (which I don't see happening, so just take one of the CB's)

Seriously... Juan should be banned from posting twitter links if he's just going to post the links and not let them load into the posts first. It's not that hard, more frustrating than just the idiots on here who post the most unrealistic ideas/situations.

wait, did we just trade into this pick!??!?!?!

So Buffalo who needs a WR, trades with KC so they can move up and get their preferred WR?!?!?!?! KC also got the draft pick they used on Mahomes in a trade with Buffalo too. If these two become an elite combo for the next 10 years, Buffalo is really going to be kicking themselves.

The Vikings traded up 2 picks later, I'm quite sure if they would have called the Vikings, they could have moved back 3 picks to get more assets and then likely still gotten Pennix (think the Vikings always wanted JJ anyways), taken someone else, or traded back again.

They signed Kirk because they think they have a legit SB window with him at QB They could have just added an elite prospect to help on said SB run Making a pick for the future because they're about to lose even more draft picks, and thus lose out on more players they could use for said hopeful SB run, is the epitome of stupid. If they lose say their 1st next year because of this, that means they'll have signed Kirk for a SB run and then not had a 1st round pick to help out in the first 2 years of his contract.

Sure, but making this pick is basically a clear signal the plan is to play Cousins until they can dump him without a massive cap hit and move onto Pennix. I haven't looked up Cousins exact contract, but I'm guessing it will be at least 2 years until they can do that, and unless he's literally winning MVP's or getting them to the SB, they'll move on from him even if he can still be a starter for a few more years. It's the Rodgers/Love situation except Rodgers was better than Cousins, not a late first round pick used for the QB, and not right after they signed Rodgers as a FA to a big contract. Just a really weird selection all around.

DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Cole Kmet, and a consensus All American Top 10 pick WR Insane

The Falcons taking a QB in general here is dumb But they just took the QB who turns 24 in a couple weeks and now will have to sit for at least 2 season I'm guessing. If you're going to take a future QB knowing they'll have to sit behind Cousins for a few seasons, why are you taking the oldest guy of the bunch? So dumb

Nobody is trading up to 33 to take a QB, if they are going to do that for a WB who falls, they’ll give up a little more to get one of the late first round picks so they get the 5th year option

No chance Falcons should have an elite offense with Kirk, Bijan, London, Pitts TB wasn't a legit contender last year, but they weren't bad, and bring back a solid offense as well. Saints aren't great, but they're still much better than we are. This roster is terrible and we'll have the worst Week 1 starting QB in the league, betting on us to win the division is an awful bet at any odds, because it just flat out isn't happening.

I mean, yea, it might have been "free money" but you still threw it away, could have put it on something that has even a realistic shot at winning, which this doesn't. I'm not even sure I'd bet on us to NOT finish in last place, let alone win the division.

Has nothing to do with the pick, but the mental stability player they got in return. There's a reason the Bills made this move, teams in a legit SB window don't just trade away their best non QB for the heck of it. He's the biggest diva WR in the league right now, not sure that's the best thing for the development of a young QB, especially when they already had a few really good WRs on the team as is. I fully get that they're going for it while on Stroud's rookie deal, which is why I can't blame them for making the move, but I think it's very much a 50/50 coin flip as to if this one backfires on them.

I'm not really sure this was a great move by the Texans With Dell, Collins, and Shultz, they weren't exactly lacking weapons for Stroud in the passing game. Now you go out and give up a 2nd rounder to get the guy who is probably the biggest diva in the league right now, the guy who throws fits when you don't get him the ball enough to his liking. There is a 50/50 shot this backfires on them and ends up stunting Stroud's growth when he feels the need to keep forcing it to Diggs to keep him from going nuts. Which in turn could then stunt Dell's growth as well.

Is it all fun and games?

Dead serious, had zero idea there was a college basketball forum/thread on here. I don't venture outside the Panthers forum on this site as that's what I have bookmarked and go directly into when I come here.

Meh It's the offseason anyways, and to be honest, I have the Panthers section as my bookmark and I've literally never ventured into any of the other forums on here. Also, you posted this like an hour after a mod already moved it out of the Panthers forum and into whatever one it's now in? Little odd lol

Sure, fair points and it's why you always see conference upsets that technically shouldn't have happened, because of how well they know each other. But still, all things considered, even with Clemson's knowledge of UNC, I can't see how any fans would rather play a more inconsistent team that has a significantly lower ceiling than the more consistent team whose ceiling is literally the best team in the nation. Boswell is the real key to our team, if he plays well, we are on equal footing with the UConn, Houston, and Purdue's of the world. If we didn't over celebrate winning the Pac 12 on our LA road trip after beating UCLA and clearly had a post-celebration hangover for the USC game, we'd have been the 1 seed in the West.

I know we could lose to Clemson, of course, but I also did hear that the UNC boards last night were talking about how they were more afraid of a Clemson matchup than one with Arizona. Which, c'mon now, is just asinine, we've been a Top 10 team all year and have a loaded roster. I'm not looking past Clemson, but UNC fans really shouldn't be hoping for an Arizona matchup over a Clemson one unless they just want to play against Love for the joy of either beating him or being able to root for him in the FF if we were to beat you guys.