tukafan21

Why not? We're paying Darnold whether he's on the team or not, starting him doesn't benefit our future as we don't find out what Corral has in that situation. And Darnold is NOT the vet we want mentoring Corral, we want someone who has been around for a while and not someone who constantly sees ghosts out there. The money is a sunk cost at this point, just do what is best for the long term future of this franchise. We aren't making a SB run this year no matter what... so don't worry about the smart financial decisions for this year alone, worry about the future of the QB position.

I'll start this by saying I doubt this happens, but if I was Tepper, I'd demand it and immediately fire Rhule/Fitterer if they refuse, but it really should be the ONLY way this season plays out if they're smart. I totally understand that Corral likely needs time to sit and learn, but with the likely elite QB talent in the top of the draft next year, plus trading away our 3rd next year, we HAVE to find out this year if Corral has a chance to be our long term solution or not, we have to go into next year's draft knowing if we have our franchise QB, not still wondering. It's basically the same thing as with Brady last year except they screwed that one up and didn't play him at LT until the very end of the season and thus had no idea if we needed to draft a new LT this year or not. Sign a smart, savvy vet who is okay being his backup and knows his job is to teach Corral how to be a QB in this league, how to go about preparation the right way, the whole thing (Fitzmagic anyone?). Best case scenario, he looks great and shows enough flashes that he can be a legit QB in this league and if we still end up with a good draft pick, we can use it elsewhere and/or trade back with a team going for a QB to get some future early round picks out of it. Worst case scenario, we absolutely suck, Corral shows us he's not the answer, we end up with a top 5 pick and get our new QB in the draft next year. The problem is I'm not sure Rhule will ever get on board with it knowing he's coaching for his job this year, but it really is the way we should go, whether he's ready or not, we NEED to see what this kid has right away, and not in mop up duty at the end of the season with half our usual starters on the IR.

Doesn't really matter that much at this point, nothing until the 5th round, we're taking guys who at best will contribute on special teams and be a decent backup as a positional player.

Trying to keep Darnold from holding out to force a trade? LOL We can't get anyone to take Darnold right now to save our lives, NOBODY is going to want him if he holds out when his NFL life is already teetering in the balance.

Ugh I hope that look was about throwing Darnold under the bus and not about Corral already, because that was not a "good" look by any means.

Almost every starting QB in the league right now was a first rounder. Brady, Wilson, Prescott, Cousins, Hurts are the only decent starting QBs that weren't first rounders, and then only a couple after them are starters at all.

highly unlikely any team trading for Baker signs him to an extension before the season, if any team liked him that much, he'd already have been traded.

As long as we're not paying his current contract and not giving up anything better than a future 5th rounder, then I'm 100% on board with it. He's a significant upgrade over Darnold, give him a healthy CMC, a completely new OL, and DJ coming into his prime, I think he can put us into playoff contention this year. Now if we give up anything more than a future 5th and/or pay anything above the vet minimum of that contract, then I'm strongly against it.

The problem is that I'm not okay with giving up 2023 draft picks to get back into the draft today. Trade Robby? 100% on board with it, but I don't think anyone is giving us a 3rd round pick today in exchange for Robby, not a chance. If anything, maybe give up a 2024 pick 3rd rounder if it can get us into the 3rd round today, but I doubt anyone is doing that either. If we trade back into today, odds are we'll have to give up something that is too much for us to give up seeing as we are more than likely to have a decent draft slot next season as of right now (I think Baker could put us middle of the pack, but even then, I'd rather have the middle of the round picks than a 3rd rounder this year).

The fact that nobody traded back into the first round to take Willis and get the 5th year option with him is a MAJOR red flag to me. Especially for someone like him who is known to be a developmental prospect, that 5th year becomes huge if he doesn't play his first year or two. So when there seemed to be a trade every other pick towards the end of the first round, and none of them were for someone to jump back into the first to grab him, says a lot about what the teams actually think about him compared to the media "experts" out there.

Just do whatever it takes to make sure he's not on the roster come training camp. He's just not that good, and his mouth is really getting old, he needs to be exponentially better for a team to want to put up with his talking.

I'll take 13, their 2023 1st, and a 3rd rounder this year for the 6th and say a 5th or 6th next year Then hope one of the top 3 LT's falls to 13 and if not, take Penning. Anything short of that, stay at 6 and take the best LT on our board, I'm good with all 3 of them.

Beyond furious There isn't a QB worth taking at 6 and there are 3 LT's worth taking there with at least one of them, if not multiple, likely to be there when we're on the clock. Next to QB, having an elite LT can be the biggest difference maker a team can have. I don't want a vet, I don't want Becton who can't stay healthy, give me a rookie who can be our starter at LT for the next 10-12 years. The only other acceptable decision to me is to trade down to the 12-14 range to pick up additional picks and still come away with Penning, anything else and I'll be the most disappointed I've been with our first round pick in a long, long time.

What a terrible trade by the Saints LOL Giving up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, to get an extra first this year and move back one draft spot with their other pick. That's a trade you make the day of the draft when there is a specific player there that could put you over the top on a SB run, they aren't in that position, not even close.

If we can get Watson and not give up any players, I'm all for that at almost any cost... want our next 5 first rounders? Take them But I just can't get on board with 3 first rounders plus two of our best young defensive players, losing the combination of all that would decimate our ability to build a competitive team around Watson, particularly the defense. But if we can keep say Chinn and Horn and give them 2 way future first rounders instead... COUNT ME IN... as by that time, those should be more like early second round picks anyways.

Oh please be the case And while we have a solid defense, we wouldn't after giving up those players to get him and still not being able to afford guys like Gilmore or Reddick to be re-signed.

No, we don't need to draft a QB Just because we need one, doesn't mean we have to get one this year when they aren't the right QB at the draft position. Taking a QB now just because we're in need of one, is more likely to set us back another 5 years than help propel us to be contenders. Make the smart decision with an OT, spend wisely on FA, take our lumps this year, and make a run at a QB next year when we get back our full set of draft picks and possibly have a high pick of our own in the first as well. Just look at all the teams that have tried to reach for a QB to fix the need when the player really shouldn't have been taken there, it doesn't work out and they're put into the vicious cycle that we're in now, where you try to fill that position every season and reach every time to do it (whether in the draft or through FA/Trade). Point blank.... we're not contenders this year no matter what QB we get, and there isn't an elite QB option for the 6th pick in the draft. So don't make a mistake, build the smart way, not the desperate way.

I'm petrified that we're going to do something stupid and give up multiple Firsts, plus other picks, and a player or two, for Watson. We're not a contender if you add Watson right now, especially when it takes away our firsts for a few years and current starters. It would reek of desperation and only backfire on us, we have far too many holes to fill, start to do that this year and draft a new QB next year in a better draft class.

And this is exactly why I don't have any interest in trying to trade for Watson, if Wilson got this, Watson is even more. And we're not a QB away from competing for a SB like the Broncos are, especially if we have to give away multiple years worth of firsts and seconds, as well as a couple starters. Would love to have a QB of his caliber, but not for what the cost will be, would be the same situation we had with Cam for years, great QB, but no OL or weapons around him because of lack of draft picks and cap room. Hard pass

Left FREAKING Tackle nothing else is acceptable, love Horn’s future but it should have been Slater last year.

Kamara and Ruggs both in Vegas jails... Paul Crewe has got a solid start to his new squad

I'm torn on Flores He's clearly a good coach, he had back to back winning seasons with the Dolphins. However, he got fired because he couldn't get along with his QB or GM. That to me is a bit of a red flag, if you have a good thing going and you're willing to get rid of the coach because of those issues, they must have been pretty bad. Sure, maybe the GM is at fault there, but Too seems like a good guy, I doubt the issues between them were on his end.

I don't care the cost, we HAVE to keep Gilmore, no matter what, even if it means losing a young good player or missing out on a good FA because the money went to Gilmore. Horn has all-pro potential and the two are already friends and have known each other for years with them both being Gamecocks. Even if it's a one year deal for stupid money, keeping Gilmore to mentor Horn on the field and not just in the film room as he's likely done this year is what is best for Horn's long term future. If we want to maximize his potential, you do it by keeping a friend of his who just so happens to be one of the best CB's the league has seen in the past couple decades so he can mentor him. It might cost us other players, and thus cost us wins in 2022, but I don't care, it will pay off in the future when Horn is a consistent All Pro corner.

If Tepper is smart.... either the Monday morning after week 16 or not at all. At this point, we're obviously bringing him back next year, which means he either completely turns it around and thus won't be fired... but if he doesn't... I see ZERO value in firing him at any point until the Monday morning after Week 16, and here's why....... If he's getting fired next year, it's because we had a terrible year and will be in line for a top draft pick. For whatever reason, when a HC gets fired, it usually rallies a team together, especially since the interim HC usually isn't one of the DC or OC, but another coach on the staff who is well liked by the players and so the players tend to care a little more in those first few weeks to play hard for the coach they like. So if we're having a bad enough season to where he's getting fired, I don't want them to do it mid-season where we could rally around the interim coach, win a handful of games, and thus hurt our draft position late in the season. And with the new rules about being able to interview other team's coaches during the last 2 weeks of the regular season, doing it the Monday after Week 16 lets them start interviewing coaches immediately and limits the number of games the team might rally together and pick up some wins to hurt draft positioning.

Burns, Chinn, and Horn, not trading them at all and wouldn't even consider it, particularly with Chinn and Horn due to their rookie deals