tukafan21

If you do that, you get back in high enough to get JSN to pair him with Stroud.

I don't care how you get one, but you have to get a WR #1. You can't draft a rookie QB 1st overall and pay an RB 6.5 million and not give your top pick a #1 WR. I know we can't get a #1 for the same 6.5, but we could have used that plus a little more to have signed someone who could have fit the bill and then drafted an RB in the 3rd round to go along with a cheaper FA option. Again, I like landing Sanders, behind our OL he should be real good, and I don't hate the contract as long as we get a #1 WR this year, if we don't, I'm not going to be so thrilled about it.

Good deal pending getting a true #1 WR If we don't get a #1 it won't make sense, as we could have put the money towards a WR and drafted an RB in the 3rd or signed someone on a dirt cheap 1 year deal, like Foreman did. If we go into the season with TMJ or a 2nd round pick as the #1 WR, this won't look like a good deal anymore.

That's much easier when you have Luck, Brissett, and Rivers than when you have a rookie QB

That can be the backup plan, but bringing in a #1 this year and drafting someone else with the 2nd makes way more sense, and here's why........ First is just that having a true #1 for a rookie QB is best for their development. It will also then get #1 corners and double coverage off of TMJ, if he's really our best receiving option next year, teams are going to take that away from a rookie QB and make him throw to Laviska and a 2nd round rookie WR. If TMJ balls out this year, we're going to need to give him a solid contract next year before he goes into his last year of his deal. If he doesn't have a good year and show he can be a legit starting WR, then we can sign someone in FA. Either way, we're spending money on WR next year with that cap room regardless, but getting a #1 in here this year will also allow us to better evaluate TMJ, help the development of the QB, and make it so we don't have to spend on 2 WRs next offseason.

I just posted this in the other thread that was just started. With the signing of the guy from Denver just now, wonder if we'll look to maybe trade YGM and a 4th or 5th to Arizona for Hop

I'm starting to think he's going to try and trade for someone like Hopkins, Sutton or Jeudy, it's really the only thing that would make sense at this point. No matter how good of an OL and RB you give to a rookie QB, he needs to have a legitimate #1 WR to throw to or you risk hurting his early development. While not clear #1's, I think guys like Juju or Jakobi would have been good enough to be a rookie's #1, especially with a WR in the 2nd round and TMJ as the #3. To spend the money we've spent so far and not get a deal done with someone like that, have to think he's targeting someone in a trade.

Been a great FA so far, but I'm worried we've spent too much money without addressing WR yet. We can't screw over the rookie QB with this current WR room, even getting one with the 2nd rounder isn't enough, we need a legitimate veteran in there.

Like the player, afraid the contract is going to be too big when there were solid cheaper options out there. I'll also be completely honest... I very much dislike the idea of paying any RB decent money 4 months after we traded CMC away, I understand getting the picks back, but I'm still angry about that trade, would have loved to give a rookie QB CMC to throw to as his safety valve.

There is a huge difference between performing at 100% and being so out of shape that you literally can't finish the drills. If he was just a bit sloppy out there and his times weren't great, sure, you could blame that on what's going on around him. But putting on almost 10 lbs in 2 weeks, knowing what is at stake, and then being THAT out of shape, that's extreme. I'm also someone who absolutely would fall apart mentally in his situation, so I'm not bashing him for that. But if I was in his situation, with his NFL career on the line, I'd at least be in shape enough to finish the drills and/or be aware enough that I wouldn't be able to finish them and would come up with some other excuse as to why I couldn't work out. Say you pulled a hamstring or twisted your ankle a few days ago in training, that's way better than not being able to finish the workout.

So..... what you're saying is that you want to draft a guy who is showing he can't get ready for the most important job interview of his life because he's too distracted by other things in his life. And you want to go out and give him millions of dollars and expect him to then be able to keep his mind focused on football at that point? Yea.... hard pass

Well now that Williams is off the market, I'd really like to see us go out and get Mattison

Vet minimum, sure... but he's not playing for the minimum

I agree on Stroud, but I don't think Young gets broken in year 1. I just don't see how Young can have a long career at his size, the hits are going to add up and he's going to break down at some point well before you'd like your #1 pick to break down. He'll be good for 2 or 3 years, but I think around the time he's starting that second contract, he's gonna be missing a lot of games every year.

It absolutely does when you're drafting #1 overall, you want to sign a backup that compliments who you're going to draft in one way or another. What that reasoning is what the staff needs to decide, but it's 100% a factor. That person you sign has to do so with the understanding of what the plan is or else it has the chance to blow up in your face if they're not okay with their role in the end. Are they signing with the expectation that they have a legitimate chance at starting Week 1? Are they signing with the understanding that they're the backup for the top pick Week 1? Are they signing with the expectation that they're going to be given the job for the full year pending injury?

Just saw the numbers on the Brissett contract are basically identical to what we gave Dalton, same guarantee but on a 1 year deal, which is more or less what the Dalton deal is anyways, we just did 2 years to spread out the cap hit. Makes me again think this means we're NOT taking Richardson, as any team that takes him, won't be starting him Week 1. If we already knew we needed a Week 1 starter, that would have been Brissett over Dalton, both a better player and also familiar with Reich and his system. Tells me that we signed Dalton purely as a backup and not a Week 1 starter. Means the pick has to be Stroud or Young and they already know that.

I'm not sure it says he doesn't love football as much as saying he just isn't a hard worker. Maybe there is something else going on that will come out, like an injury, but he has had a couple months to get into the best shape of his life for the most important job interview he'll ever have. He could still love football, but if he couldn't work hard for 2-3 months to be ready for today, that to me is more of a work ethic situation, but who knows.

I get that, the film will pop, but for someone who was already dealing with a massive amount of red flags, him putting on that much weight in the last 2 weeks and not being ready for his Pro Day is about as bad of a sign as it gets for a player. Even playoff teams might not want him because they just don't think he has the right mentality to be an NFL player, that's laziness to a supreme level. I'm guessing there are at least a dozen or so teams that completely took him off their draft board today and wouldn't touch him no matter how far he falls.

Don't really want Campbell, feels like the interest is more based on Reich's connection to him than his actual skill. At this point, I'm hoping we trade for a WR, not much great left out there in FA and we need someone who can be a #1 for the rookie. Go get Hopkins, Sutton, Jeudy, Cooks, or someone similar to them.

I wouldn't take him if he fell to our 3rd rounder, he's 100% off my draft board now. If you can't be in good enough shape at your Pro Day to even finish the drills, then you aren't going to last in the NFL, he clearly doesn't have the right mindset that you want in a player. It would be one thing if he just didn't put up good numbers, but he put on 9 lbs in the last 2 weeks and couldn't finish his drills. He wants to be an NFL player, today was the most important job interview he'll ever have in his life, and he couldn't be bothered to be in shape for it. You really want to use a draft pick that would get us a possible starter on someone like that? Very very very very hard pass, this is a player who won't get a second contract in the league I have a feeling.

He'd actually only be on the books for about $19 million this year, which isn't terrible, he's just a bigger cap hit to the Cardinals due to the signing bonus still being part of his cap for them, which doesn't transfer to the new team in a trade. If you sign him to a 2-3 year extension, they could bring that down to probably around $10 million this year as his cap hit I'm guessing.

I don't think he has much of a choice, I don't think there are many teams with the cap space left to give out big TE contracts at the moment. If the top WR's in this FA class so far are getting $11 million a year, are you really giving that much up for Gesicki? No chance He's gonna get around $7 million a year in the end

Wow, that's way too much money for a middling TE in Hurst. Easily could have gotten Gesicki for that number, I'd have been willing to pay a little more to get Schultz too, this feels like an overpay instead of using that money towards a WR or something. Not a fan of this one

He may want to, but that tweet said him and the Lions are far apart, not sure how someone who should be a fairly cheap contract is far apart with a team that would like to keep him unless he’s expecting too much

He’s loved in Detroit and wants to stay if possible, if they’re far apart on a deal, for someone who really shouldn’t be getting crazy money, tells me he wants way more than we can afford on an RB I’d think.