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tukafan21 replied to Sean Payton's Vicodin's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yes and no He's not meddling in the decisions, including how much weight is put on tests like the S2. But I'm quite sure it was discussed during the HC interviews and I'd assume Reich showed a positive attitude towards using tests like that in evaluating prospects. So while Tepper's love of the test isn't directly impacting the decisions being made right now, I'm sure it plays a factor at a higher level. -
Are we watching the same clip? He didn't have his hands inside the shoulders on the chest, he had a full on grip on the jersey on the top of his shoulders and clearly was pulling on his jersey as the defender was trying to pull away from him but couldn't because of the fistful of jersey. I like the pick, not bashing the player, just saying it was a weird clip to use to talk about liking a pick as that block there will draw a flag 99 out of 100 times.
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This is why I'd have liked to see us sign Jamaal Williams if Bryce was going to be the pick, those 1 yarders are his specialty and would have been a useful tool in our arsenal. Wouldn't hate adding Zeke if it could be done cheap, but I think if he was going to take a small contract, he'd go to more of a contender before us. Wouldn't be against adding Fournette for those either, or possibly Latavious. Maybe Tremble can figure out how to take handoffs during training camp? He could work well in those situations if he can get the exchange down in camp.
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Didn't realize we play the Bears this year, I guess there is an interesting story there as well and could see that being a Week 1 matchup, but I still think the Texans are the most likely week 1 game. As I said earlier, I can't see the Colts playing either us or the Texans in week 1, they want to get those rookie QB matchups and AR has a much lower chance of starting week 1 than Bryce or Stroud who should both step right in and start Week 1. I'm both rooting for and against playing the Lions on Thanksgiving. I'm a Detroiter who is an Arizona alum with almost all my friends being Spartans, and Arizona-MSU play on Thanksgiving day this year already. If we played the Lions that same day, there is a chance friendships could get ruined if one side won both games hahaha. But man that would be a really fun day for my friends and I if we got those games back to back (both games are on the same channel I think).
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While I agree on Carr and think the Saints are the team to beat in the division going into the season. Young shouldn't need much time to play well, if he does, that would be a bit concerning. That was kinda the selling point on him, that his mental grasp of the game was on a level not seen before and he was plug and play right away. Yea, he'll have to adjust to the speed of the game, but again, if he's so far ahead mentally than any recent prospect, he should adapt just fine seeing as a number of QB's have had great rookie seasons in the past decade or so. As everyone said, everything else the same about him, if he's 6'2" 215 lbs, he's such a clear cut #1 prospect that the Bears trade Fields and draft him instead, the questions were always about his size. Sure you can point to a rookie year with Lawrence where he struggled, but the Urban regime was a mess and he had even worse weapons than Bryce will have this year with us and he has a more than competent coaching staff. I do think many here are expecting him to be a Pro Bowler as a rookie, and that's a bit lofty, but he really shouldn't take too much time to play well.
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Supposed to be cleared by week 1, but even then, he's not likely to play this year unless Goff gets hurt. But if Goff were to go down (or suck) and they play Hooker, he has the potential to put up goods stats with the weapons in that offense. Purdy only played 6 games last year and was a ROY finalist, not likely to replicate that again, but if anyone could, it would be a QB with Hooker's ability. Now, him having better odds than Levis, that I don't understand.
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The Indy game should be a little later in the season, much less of a chance that AR is starting week 1 than say week 10, it's why I think both their Texans games will come late in the year too. The league will want to get those rookie matchups, and there is a good chance that both Young and Stroud are week 1 starters, so I think they'll go that way week 1 and save the AR matchup for later to hope he's playing by then.
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I think week 1 is more likely for that one, which won’t be a prime time game. They did it when Jameis and Mariota were 1 and 2 overall, I think they’ll do it again here. Thats a fun matchup, but it’s not a prime time worthy game unless they put it on a Thursday.
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I'd say Sanders would be what Iggy was to Steph during those earlier championship runs, he's not Klay, we need the Klay to be his WR or a true elite TE. Sanders can be good for us, but he's not a peak CMC, there is no other peak CMC, he's a truly 1 of 1 in the league right now when healthy.
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I am very much of the mindset that we should and in the end, will, trade our 2025 First to get into the 2024 First round to get WR or TE when one worthy of it starts to slide. We have a very good base in place now, and if Bryce turns into the QB the team expects him to, that 2025 pick should be expected to fall in the 25-32 range as that would mean making it to the second round of the playoffs (which is what generally happens in the 2nd year of the top rookie QB's who are meant to be "the next thing"). If that's the case and a pass catching option falls to the 15th-ish or later spot, trading the 2025 First along with other picks as necessary makes the most sense. If Young pans out as the team hopes, our best Super Bowl window starts in 2024 and is realistically most open for 3 seasons while he is still getting his rookie cap hit numbers, as once he signs that new deal, year 5 has a much higher cap hit. Short of Top 5 WR draft picks, even Elite WRs are still #2's in their rookie year and blow up in that second season. We can't wait until that second year of the key 3 year window to draft our WR, we need them to grow with Young in that first year so they are hitting their strides in year 2 and 3 of the window. That means our 2025 first round pick must be used next offseason to acquire a true #1 WR, even if it means trading for another player which I'd be fine with if someone is worth it. Now if TMJ or Mingo absolutely blow up this year and show that true #1 potential, it changes things, but I think we still should be using that 2025 First in a trade in someway next offseason.
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Ickey is his Draymond, of course But we still need his Klay (good lord CMC would have been a godsend with Young and his scrambling ability to keep plays alive, CMC would have FEASTED on those plays catching the ball on dump offs).
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I don't think we really have that this year, not with how this roster is built at WR right now. We have Chark and TMJ as the top two outside WRs while Thielen and Mingo will be the Slot WRs. Chark and TMJ will be one the field for the majority of plays unless they need a breather, as they're really our only true outside WRs on the roster right now. Thielen will be on the field for most of the snaps as a slot while Mingo will be in the other slot when we go 4 wide (which I expect a lot of this year, especially since Thielen and Mingo seem to be willing and good blocking WRs). Mingo will then also likely take snaps as an outside WR when Chark or TMJ need a breather as well. Shenault will be the 5th guy while Shi and Byrd battle it out for the final WR spot on the 53 man. We won't have a traditional #1, #2, #3, etc as none of these WRs are "that guy" at the moment, they're all kinda complimentary pieces. The read progressions will likely change each week based on the defense we're playing and where we matchup best, whether it be from the slot or outside. That's the double edged sword of the way they built this WR room, we have a bunch of nice parts, the problem is without a true #1 to take the attention of the defense, I'm a bit concerned about how they'll perform. It's why we needed to trade for someone like Hopkins instead of signing Chark, but we're past that now as unless we trade TMJ as part of a deal for a #1 WR, that room is filled at this point outside of camp fodder, not moving any of those top 4 to being the 5th WR.
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Brian: "I didn't know it was take your child to work day, who are you here with?"
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Now that that’s over let’s turn our attention to next year’s class
tukafan21 replied to Growl's topic in Carolina Panthers
I know it's a biased pick since I'm an Arizona alum, but I'm really hoping we can land Jacob Cowing in like the 3rd round next year, I think he'd be a great slot to pair with Mingo and hopefully TMJ if he can take a leap this year. He had 69 catches for 1,354 yards two years ago at UTEP and then transferred to Arizona and had 85 catches for 1,034 yards this past year with 7 TDs in each season. He just stood out in every game, super crisp route running, great hands, and a YAC monster. He's a prototypical NFL Slot WR -
Now that that’s over let’s turn our attention to next year’s class
tukafan21 replied to Growl's topic in Carolina Panthers
All I know is we better not end up giving a Top 10 pick in the end, especially with how good next year's QB class is, as long as we're giving them something in the teens I'll be happy. But the funny thing is that the Texans very well may have given away their best chance at landing Harrison to pair with Stroud by giving up their 1st rounder to get Anderson. Still makes no sense to me, do they really expect to be better than the Browns? Should have given up the pick they got in the Watson deal and keep their own 1st next year instead. -
Probably would be smart, especially since he's likely to struggle as a rookie Let him work through the tough times while he gains the experience he didn't get in college since he only played one season. Then end up with a Top 5 pick and draft Harrison Jr to play for his pop's team and give AR some real weapons between him and Pittman.
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Draft classes of other NFC South teams
tukafan21 replied to FuFuLamePoo's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's weird to say, but we kinda want to root for Bijan to be a beast. CMC was a beast and we still couldn't win, so it's possible for the same to happen with the Falcons. Best case scenario is he's a beast while they keep losing and then get saddled with a monster RB contract that screws up their cap for a few years before they have to move on from him (and I say that's best case scenario because the "real best case scenario" of him being a bust doesn't seem very possible). -
Not in our case since we were out of picks, so hopefully we were manning those phones earlier than most teams
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Would love Andre Carter but feel like someone will take a flyer on him before the draft ends
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Wouldn’t mind trading next year’s 7th if it can get us back into the draft here to get him
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Yep, think it was a mistake to pass on him with our last pick (hell, I wanted him with our 4th rounder) could have been a nice role player for us this year and stepped into a starting MLB role next year.
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How is To'oTo'o still on the board? Need to trade a future pick to get back in and grab him
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Give me To'oTo'o
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Please let To'oTo'o keep falling to our next pick, would love to get him