tukafan21

Sweet jesus this is going to be a long 3 weeks. Levis was a fine option at #9, once we made the trade up to #1 it became a 2 horse race. Stop trying to make Levis or AR a possibility, it won't happen.

Hate when they do a logo on one side and the number on the other, so easily pass on that aspect. On the big logo like that... I like it, in a vacuum like it's mocked up here. But in real life I don't think it would be a good idea with the helmet designs that are being used these days by many players. I think with some of those new helmets, a logo like that would look super funky on some players.

This shouldn’t be hard to not screw up. Give me black standard helmets with a white alternate. No gradients anywhere, not in the helmet, jersey, or numbers. Don’t do the crappy college/XFL looking idea of the team name as a tramp stamp on the pants like the Dolphins. Keep some form of a shoulder stripe, but move it down to the side of the sleeve instead of on the shoulder to allow for normal sized shoulder numbers instead of the weird tiny ones.

The Lamar situation is starting to feel a bit like Dennis Schroeder with the Lakers a few years ago. Turned down a MONSTER contract extension expecting to get a bigger one in free agency. Ending up needing to take a 1 year prove it deal in the cheap, was exposed for not being as good as he thought, and lost out on a crazy amount of money that he’ll now never get. If Lamar doesn’t end up signing a big deal before the season starts and can’t make it thru the season healthy, again, this is going to be the biggest fumbling of a bag in sports history.

3 weeks at most fellas, not that hard to wait that long lol If we're getting new uniforms, they'll be unveiled at the very latest the second we make that draft pick. No chance we take a QB at #1 and have him take a picture holding a jersey that we're going to be replacing before he ever steps on the field.

If they were the same size, then yea, I'm probably taking Young, but not by a wide margin at all, it would still be very close. As I've said numerous times, size isn't the only factor, it's just part of the equation and has to be factored in, and with Stroud and Young so close as prospects, it ends up being the final tally in Stroud's favor. Also have said many times that if it was Young vs Levis or AR, then you take Young. You have one big error in your thinking here... You say that assuming Young will be oft injured because he is small is bias, which is correct. But you also say that thinking Stroud will break the OSU curse is also bias, which is woefully incorrect, it's the exact opposite. Thinking Stroud will bust because OSU QB's bust, is the bias, just like thinking the size will be an issue for Young. That's what also bothers me in the whole Young vs Stroud debate, it comes down to two things for most people size vs OSU's QB history. So people want to knock Stroud for past players not succeeding while giving Young a pass for something that absolutely is a known concern for him, not past players from his school.

This is really easy for me, Young has the most obvious and biggest negative on either players scouting report. If we draft him and his size is an issue and Stroud is a great player, we’ll be idiots for taking that risk with an equally talented option available.

no, because that would be the dumbest and ugliest uniform in NFL history, that's terrible

No chance we take a Guard with our 2nd rounder, we'll take someone who could/should be at minimum a regular player in rotation if not an outright starter somewhere. A guard, if all things go to plan this year, wouldn't see a single snap in their rookie year.

My dude, in what world can you say "neither of us know in reality" when Hopkins himself has come out and said he's not looking for a huge contract and is willing to work with a team to get his cap number down? I'm not just making my own predictions here, I'm using his own words

"Whoever pays Hopkins the most money will get him if he ends up getting cut" That was your direct quote, I didn't change a word there, and that was directly after you said that football players are about money at the end of the day and have to look out for their families. So, sure... me saying "he's going to the highest bidder" is putting words in your mouth, as you didn't use those explicitly exact words, but that's literally the definition of semantics seeing as you literally said, "whoever pays him the most money will get him." When in reality, if you've paid any attention to the Hopkins situation over the last couple of months, it's been widely known and reported that he's openly said he isn't trying to re-set any WR market and is willing to take a pay cut to go to a contender. That's not to say he won't end up taking the most money offered to him, but you came in hot with a pretty definitive statement that he was signing due to money, despite him saying the opposite himself. It's been a theme of yours on here a lot lately and we've butted heads quite a few times, which is fair when people have differing opinions. But as Mr Scot told you a week or so ago, sometimes it's just better to sit back and listen than spout off when you aren't informed and knowledgable about the topic at hand.

That may or may not be the case, but it's not what you said. You said he's going to the highest bidder because that's what football players do, which is true sometimes, but seeing as he's explicitly said that's not what he was looking for with his next team/contract, it's just a dumb thing to say in such a matter of factly way.

Dude, just no, on multiple fronts. This isn't a RB who only has one chance to land a big contract, the guy has already made $110 million in his career with minimal team success. He's not going to just take the highest contract offer, he literally said going into this offseason that he wasn't looking for max money, but he wanted to go somewhere that is a contending team and he'd be willing to take a pay cut to make it happen. Beyond that, we only have the 2nd most cap space in the league right now in name only, we also need to save more cap room than almost any team in the league for the rookies. I'm not saying we can't or won't sign him, but it won't be because we have the 2nd most cap room and thus offer him the biggest contract offer of any team.

I've heard that, but I'm guessing we'd be the one place he'd be willing to do it. Think that was more his way of trying to get sent to a contender, but if that wasn't going to happen, I think we'd have been a legit option for him. It wouldn't be with any random rookie, it would be the #1 overall pick and would basically be him coming back home, as well as being the clear #1 option in the passing game.

That would probably hurt our chances of getting him as he'd likely go to either the highest bidder or a team ready to contend this year, neither of which would likely be us. Had a much better chance at trading for him

There are very few people who will actually be involved in making this final decision. A handful of coaches and executives, and I don't think any of them are dumb enough to go around telling people who we like more than others. Anything you read between now and draft night has been put out by the team for one reason or another, or is pure speculation based on murmurs lower level people have heard in passing conversations, or flat out lies made up by the reporter for clicks. Even if this is true, it would be pure luck by King to report it, particularly as it's not really much of a statement, I'm sure there are people in both the Panthers and Texans organizations that like each of the top 2 QB's better than the other. Shocker

I think it's easier to get someone to feel more comfortable with pressure and taking hits than it is to get someone to avoid contact. Guys like Cam were impossible to get that thru their heads because they're just not wired that way, no matter how often you beat it into them, when push comes to shove, they're going to deliver or take the hit, like Josh Allen has a tendency to do. If Stroud was blatantly afraid of contact it would be one thing, but a few instances here or there, that's not as much of a concern, especially as he grows older and gets more comfortable in the NFL.

lol no He wouldn't be an improvement over TMJ or Chark on the outside and Thielen is locked into being our main Slot. Beyond that I don't know if he's even any better than Laviska, and would rather give Shi any snaps that Wilson would get and then see if he can turn into anything. Having said all that, I don't like where we're at with what WRs we're giving to a rookie and really want us to do whatever it takes to trade for Hopkins, Sutton, or Jeudy, or do what it takes to move into the back end of the first round again to take a better WR prospect than will fall to us in the 2nd round.

Wishing AR had more years of successful experience is basically like wishing Young was 6’4”, if they were the case, we wouldn’t be sitting at #1 because the Bears would have kept it and traded Fields. I think the combo of Stroud and You g are as good of prospects as you’re ever going to find in a year you could trade for the #1 pick, any better and the team with it is taking them and trading their current QB

We need a little over $12 million for our draft picks based on the picks we have right now. So have about $15 million in actual cap space at the moment, although technically we could eat into that amount we need to save for the rookies before they actually sign the deals and then get a Burns extension done to get the room back.

In 2015 I was still saying he should be fired when we were 10-0, 11-0, 12-0, etc. It felt like we kept winning in spite of him, not because of him and felt like it was going to catch up with us, which it did in the SB when he couldn't adjust game plans mid game like a SB winning coach needs to do. He's an amazing person and probably one of the better Monday to Saturday coaches there is, his players love him and will run through a wall for him. But he's just one of the worst game day coaches I've ever seen, terrible at time/game management, time out usage, challenge usage, player usage, everything. He built a reputation on the Riverboat Ron stuff, when they were clear and obvious decisions that any coach in the same situation would have been making, if it weren't for those 3 or 4 plays, he currently a HC in this league. If he wants to continue coaching after this season when he gets fired, he'll make for an outstanding DC somewhere, but he shouldn't be the man in charge.

Which is why AR isn't the pick at #1, because he's nowhere near ready to start in the NFL right now. Your lack of understanding the NFL in some of these posts over the last week or so has been something else.

And my point still stands that Dalton has openly said he's here to backup and support the rookie QB. That alone says the plan is already to start the rookie week 1, which in itself says AR isn't a realistic option, as he's not starting for anyone in week 1 unless the planned starter gets hurt in camp. Not hard to figure out.

Well that's just not true, Drew Brees didn't have a special playbook because he was short, that's just nonsense. Dalton was brought in because he's what Derek Anderson was to Cam, the seasoned vet who can step in and play if needed, but really there to help the rookie off the field in how to go about being a QB, in the film room, reading defenses, etc. The signing of Dalton to me was the clear signal that AR wasn't under serious consideration and that we wouldn't be trading back to #3 like some people here wanted. Especially when he then said that he knew what his role was, that he was here to backup and support the rookie, he knows the rookie is starting week 1 and that's not going to be AR for anyone (outside of injury to the starter).

Dalton signed with the Bears expecting to be the starter as they didn't have a high pick, they then traded up for Fields and still started Dalton the first few weeks until he got hurt. Dalton has also said he knows he's here to be a backup and mentor, he knows he's not starting week 1. Jimmy G wasn't brought in to be Lance's mentor, they drafted Lance with the intention of letting Jimmy play out that first year and let Lance learn to take over in year 2, which they did until he got hurt. Cam was always going to be the starter from day 1 and was MILES ahead of AR in his readiness, so the backup needed to be a seasoned vet who would be ready to step in if Cam got hurt, and help him behind the scenes, not on the field as much. If the plan was AR, you sign one of the better QBs and more mobile than Dalton, like a Brissett, Two Gloves or even Heinicke, because you'd be starting them probably this whole season but can still run the style offense that you're likely going to try and build around AR. Having AR spend his rookie year learning and practicing an offense built for Andy Dalton would be a waste of a season, you want him learning the system he'll play with from day 1.