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Beyond the locks, that's so gross, there is no reason Tremayne should be our 3rd (as I'm over XL and he shouldn't be higher than #4 on our depth chart this year), just no. It's why I was really hoping we'd just get rid of XL for whatever the best draft pick we can get for him is. Then sign a true quick twitch guy to be our slot WR, and even then, still hope that Horn Jr might take that spot from them in camp anyways and turn that FA signing into our #4, with Moore as a special teamer who gets a jersey and then Tremayne as that last project.
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I think that's the problem we have with it. If we're bringing in WRs, they should be a clear cut #3 WR as our starting slot, or they should be a mid round draft pick to see if they can become that guy for us. Signing a FA like this for that spot just seems odd. Then personally, I don't like the previous connection with Bryce for a player of this talent level, as I'm afraid Bryce will want to rely on him more than he should, and we can't have anything hindering Bryce this year if he has any chance at panning out (which again, I still don't think can happen, but that's a different discussion). This feels like a signing due to the Bryce connection, but you make that in year 1 or 2, not going into year 4 when said WR hasn't panned out so far either.
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Moore is a special teamer outside of injuries above him and there is zero reason to bring in a depth piece who MIGHT create competition for XL and Horn Jr. Either bring in someone clearly better than them to replace them, or you roll with the guys on rookie contracts and see if they can become a useful player. If you wanted depth who MIGHT turn into competition for those guys, then draft someone somewhere in Rounds 3-5, as that's a great spot to find those quick twitch slot WRs. Just don't love depth signings who have a history with our QB when we have 5 WRs who are already all but on the 53 man roster unless they get traded (like XL).
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I'd hope so. And before someone says it, this is NOT me concerned about someone stealing catches from my guy, lol. I'm just afraid of Bryce falling into old habits and it hindering his performance in such a critical season for him and the franchise. If Metchie had been better so far in his career, I'd be jumping for joy over this move, as I'd been calling for it going into both his rookie and 2nd season to try and trade for him. Honestly, is he even any better than Horn Jr? I'd have liked a clear upgrade over Horn Jr if we weren't going to be giving him first crack at that slot role.
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Ehhh, torn on this one, as he's a player I was calling for us to try and trade for early in Bryce's career, to get him a WR he was familiar with from college. The problem now is I'm afraid he'll want to rely on his college WR too much now, and I don't think he's good enough to be that guy for Bryce. I was asking us to do that before he hadn't really shown much throughout his career, which unfortunately now he's done (just 686 yards across 3 mostly healthy seasons). I want that speedy slot WR, but I'd just have preferred it to not be a player who used to be a safety blanket for Bryce, but is significantly lesser of a WR than T-Mac and Coker (and maybe even XL to be honest). So in such a critical season for Bryce, not sure I love adding a not so great WR he might want to rely on too much.
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Wait what? Were there really people here who wanted us to go after a player coming off a missed season due to an ACL tear, that he was supposed to be back early in the season but didn't ever come back because he hated his team (even though they just gave him a big contract) and thus was lazy in his rehab from said ACL tear?!?!?! I wouldn't even take him at a league minimum salary, just not a guy you want in the locker room with T-Mac and Coker. We want them learning from hard working vets, not someone like Aiyuk who is a locker room cancer. And I'll also fully admit I wanted us to try and trade for him when the 49ers had him on the market before signing him to the new deal. But with how he handled that whole thing and then everything since then, it completely changed my opinion on him.
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Because if Bryce goes down, we're screwed no matter what. And if Bryce goes down, it means we're probably replacing him next year anyways. So why spend this kind of money on a backup who isn't going to help you win a lot of games, but is probably good enough to help you win just enough to not get a top pick in the draft. Should have just drafted a mid round QB this year. Bryce either proves he's the guy of the future and then we sign a real backup next year (unless the rookie can handle the job), or he shits the bed again and we give the rookie a shot to see if he can be the next Wilson or Purdy, and if not we draft a new QB next year.
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Having signed Phillips, will they now target a OT for first pick?
tukafan21 replied to Jmac's topic in Carolina Panthers
If there is a Week 1 LT starter, unless we've signed someone for the spot, that 100% has to be the pick. They start there as a rookie and then we figure it out next year with Ickey. If there isn't a Week 1 starter, then OT shouldn't be an option, not a fan of taking a non week 1 starter in Round 1 with all our holes. Then it becomes MLB or Safety for me, whichever hole we haven't filled in FA. I also would not be against moving up in the 1st, as long as it doesn't cost us a future 1st, to get Caleb Downs if he falls outside the Top 10. -
BREAKING: Panthers sign QB Kenny Pickett
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
So dumb, would have been better off with a mid round cheap draft pick as our backup than Pickett, what a pointless waste of cap space -
Or we wait till the draft as 19 can be a place to land a Week 1 impact player at MLB. I wouldn't hate Lloyd, but unless we're able to get a starting LT at that spot, I think a MLB is our best chance at drafting someone who will be an impact player for us from the start of the season.
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FA Splash: Panthers sign Jaelan Phillips EDGE
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Was my #1 want in FA, LFG!!!!! -
REPORT: Panthers interested in trading for Brian Thomas Jr
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
We already have our #1 and #2 of the future, BTJ isn't the shifty slot WR we need to still add to the room, a move like this would make no sense. And that's even before factoring in the eyebrow raising factor of why would the Jags want to trade him with 2 more years and a 5th year option left on his rookie deal. There are clearly things they don't like about his future, so when combined with my first sentence, I'm a hard pass on him. -
Actually think this gives us a slight advantage this year (if I'm remembering things correctly). Don't the two teams that play in this game get to open their training camp slightly earlier than the rest of the league? If I'm remembering that correctly, it would be a great thing with this being such a tipping point season for the franchise, either Bryce/Canales prove to be the guys of the future or they get replaced after the season.
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Dane Brugler from The Athletic 2-round cock draft
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I still think we'd be far better of to spend our cap space on getting a pass rusher who will be an impact player Week 1 and then use our 1st Rounder on a position that is more likely to be able to start Week 1 and improve the defense, such as an off ball LB or Safety. I'd also put an LT above an edge rusher if there is a Week 1 starter there and then figure out what to do with them and Ickey next offseason. This also could be the season to trade back to pick up a future 1st, especially if there is a WR on the board that a team has fallen in love with, which we're at the perfect spot for one of those teams picking at the end of the 1st Round to try and move up to get. -
Adam Schefter: Panthers getting trade calls for Andy Dalton
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Raiders, Titans, and Saints would actually make some sense in picking up someone like Dalton, for the same reason we got him for Bryce. Teams who don't have a chance at staying competitive if their 1st or 2nd year QB goes down anyways, so have a vet backup who can help their young QBs off the field and expedite their mental growth of being an NFL QB. Now, if I'm those teams, zero chance I'm giving up even the last pick in the draft, or even like a 2028 7th rounder for him, but I do think it would make sense for those teams to look at Dalton when he gets cut. -
"Listed at 6'3"" He measured 6'1" at the combine, he'd be better off in a Cordarelle Patterson or SF Deebo type of role than as a TE.
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Pittman + 7th for XL and a 5th?
tukafan21 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
McConkey is such a better player than XL that it isn't out of the question that he'd have improved us by 1 win last year, which would have dropped us to 10th or 11th in the draft. If we fell to 11th behind SF, they probably take him as they were heavily rumored to want him. 2 more wins and we fall to 11th or 12th, if we are 12th behind both the 49ers and Cowboys, then he's 100% taken by one of them. Even if he was on the board when we were on the clock, I'm not sure we're taking him over a defensive player given how bad the defense was last year. Part of why he was always the pick for me was that we had no legitimate long term WR option at the time, having McConkey would have changed that. -
Pittman + 7th for XL and a 5th?
tukafan21 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nah, we take McConkey and I don't think we end up with T-Mac. My personal fandom aside, I think it's obvious that if it's one or the other, T-Mac is the one you want. -
Pittman + 7th for XL and a 5th?
tukafan21 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think finding Coker as a UDFA actually makes it sting even more. We back 60 spots later in the draft to move up one spot into the first to take XL instead of just keeping the very next pick and staying at pick 140 instead of 200. We could have had a better pick later on and still taken a player at another position of need, like pass rusher, linebacker, or safety while then landing Coker after the draft. -
Pittman + 7th for XL and a 5th?
tukafan21 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Even if he's cut, he's not someone we should be targeting. T-Mac is already better than him, and while sure, he might be a slight upgrade at this moment over Coker as a #2, I'm really not sure he would be by the end of the season if Coker improves this offseason like we hope. We need a Tyreek Hill type who isn't Tyreek Hill, not a lesser version of T-Mac. Honestly, outside chance the answer is on the roster and it ends up being Horn Jr, I still don't know why he wasn't getting more snaps this year, he seems like he's oozing potential in the exact role we're needing to complement T-Mac and Coker. -
Honestly, for a lot of them, it's probably just as simple as little man syndrome. Take it from someone who was always the shortest kid on every team growing up (I was still 4'10" as a Freshman in HS), it puts a chip on your shoulder that you feel you have to always prove you belong and it makes you extra competitive. Even if you no longer are shorter than everyone, it's still there when you compete. Which again, as someone who ended up 5'10" and is now slightly above average height, when it comes to playing sports, in my head, I'm still the 5'2" I was when I turned 16.
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No, I don't want him anywhere near T-Mac or Coker. Tyreek is a terrible locker room presence and it's not like he's some WR savant, he's just faster and quicker than everyone else, which isn't something he can then help teach to our younger guys. I'd LOVE to have a Tyreek type of player, just zero interest in it actually being him.
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Pittman + 7th for XL and a 5th?
tukafan21 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
We have much more urgent needs to use $20 million of cap space on than a WR who doesn't bring any new skill sets into the WR room. If Coker didn't have his late season breakout, then I'd be more open to considering it, but what we need is a complementary WR to him and T-Mac, a shifty speed guy, not another big body. -
Should Dave Canalas be on the HOT seat??
tukafan21 replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Anything below .500 next year and we should be replacing both HC and QB -
Oh I know you’re not defending him, an I’m not even talking about league or legal punishments. But DV and hitting a police officer with his car, are the type of crimes that regardless of NFL or legal punishments, I think it’s the type of thing that would keep teams from ever signing him in the future
