tukafan21

If you're a GM with a Top 5 pick and you trade that pick for a 28 year old DT with a big contract, and nothing else, you're getting fired before that other team is even able to use the draft pick they got off you. If there is a QB worth taking at that spot, to begin with, if you're picking in the Top 5, there is a good chance you need to take that QB yourself. Beyond that, if you didn't, there would be multiple offers of multiple 1sts to move up to that spot. If you're taking a 28 year old with a big contract over the multiple first round picks, then you're just an idiot. This is no offense to DB, love the guy, but he's not an Aaron Donald type of DT who is racking up big sack numbers. There is no world where he's worth turning down multiple first round picks (and probably other assets) to take just him back in exchange. If someone is offering us 2 1sts and say a player, maybe another 2nd or 3rd round pick there too, for DB, I'm taking that offer so fast my head will spin. Which is why no team is turning down that trade to take the offer of DB either. Only chance would be if it's a team who lucked into that draft pick through a previous trade (like maybe the Rams with the Falcons pick) and they feel they are a Derrick Brown away from being the SB favorite that season, and even then, I'm not sure they turn down the draft picks based offers.

Even if that's the case, we'll still likely end up picking in the early teens in the end instead of another Top 10 pick to help build out the roster some more. I'm also of the belief that Canales should not be brought back either though, which is why those wins become bad. If Canales deserved to be kept around, they'd then be good wins as they'd help the continuing build of the team. But once we fire him, that all goes out the window at that point unfortunately as it's starting over again, and those morale boosting wins become pointless.

The problem is all those bad wins are also going to hurt our draft position in the end to replace him too. This whole season has gone about as poorly as possible in terms of our long term outlook.

Yep, that throw was EXACTLY what I've been saying on here for weeks. Those 10 yard outs where he needs to throw it 25 yards in the air from the opposite hash, he just can't zip that throw on a line and drive it properly at an NFL level. He can only throw that as a touch pass, which leads to plays exactly like that one. But when I say that, people just talk about how he can throw the ball 60 yards in the air as evidenced by his 5 throws like that in college where he was able to bounce into a perfectly balanced heave.

LOL and on the very next snap.... THAT happens

This about to be the biggest drive of Bryce's career, he needs to lead them on a TD or his Panthers career might be over.

I'd say it's more on Canales There is no way he's run that in practice correctly 100% of the time if he's doing that in the game. Which means they've seen him make that mistake in practice, haven't corrected it, but still decided to call that play in the game.

I'm convinced we are legitimately the worst team to ever have a 5-4 record in the history of the NFL

El-Oh-El

lol that pass to open the drive, wow

That's my Quarterback, but dude hasn't played in 4 years. Even if he's been training every day as if he was going to play again (and I highly doubt he has been), then I'm not even sure he would be better than Bryce right now. Players generally struggle early after missing a full season due to injury or something, 4 years away from the game at a position like that and you're just done, half a beat slow as a QB and it's going to be ugly.

Not putrid... just normal. That's who Bryce has been all year long, a single game over 199 yards passing this year, but people keep talking about his "game winning drives" where he throws 2 check down passes for 15 yards and give him credit for leading us to the win.

But, but, but...... I've been told all year that we should just be celebrating our wins because of how bad we've been the last decade instead of objectively pointing out why we've been winning in spite of our actual play one the field, not because of it. So who could have ever seen a game like this coming?!?!?!

Yes, but no team in their right mind is trading a high draft pick for a DT unless you're also throwing in multiple firsts. So, no.

Yes you do, they're called Doctors or Lawyers.

I said this a few weeks ago, the nickname never made any sense to me, as it was literally just making fun of him for being so bad, but sure, just ignore that and pretend it means he's the GOAT.

He is, but that sack actually was completely on Ickey after seeing that replay. Not a Bryce fan, but I can call out when something wasn't his fault.

But those of us who have been calling that stuff out all year long get attacked for not being a good enough fan. Pack the box, force Bryce to throw, and we're screwed.

I'll be very curious how all those people 2 weeks ago saying "see how bad we look without Bryce, he's clearly the guy" are going to spin this performance so far today.

I'd say "can" and not as much "should" as it really was a bad pass. It looks way worse in slow motion on replay, but in real time, a timing route that is meant to be a back shoulder pass is VERY hard to adjust that quickly to a pass out in front of you instead.

Be frustrated he didn't make the catch, but in no world was that particular play an example of bad hands. That was NOT where the ball was supposed to be thrown, as Schlereth called out, that should have been a back shoulder pass. It's very hard to adjust that quickly to a ball being thrown to the complete wrong spot, it was actually even a little impressive for him to even get his hands on it at all given that.

Not sure that should or will be ruled a drop, but that's two weeks in a row that Bryce threw T-Mac a bad pass that he SHOULD have caught, but didn't, but also where an even marginally better throw results in a sure fire catch, last weeks would have been for a TD. T-Mac's gotta be better there, but Bryce needs to be even more better.

He certainly did, however it did look like they were both hand fighting so I can see how there was no flag. But I'd still like to see a replay from the opposite angle to see how much he really did shove him in the chest there.

When is Bryce going to learn that his spin move on the deep drop back never works?