tukafan21

Not a fan of WR in the 1st unless the team has reservations about Coker's ceiling. I think Coker can be a perfect #2 to T-Mac, and if that's the case, drafting a WR in the 1st Round this year makes no sense. Sure it would upgrade our #3 WR spot, whether it's the rookie or Coker in that role, but in reality it doesn't make sense for the long term. Doing that means we're drafting Coker's replacement, as if he hit on the pick, you can't have 3 WRs who all need to get paid within a year of each other or you run into the problems the Bengals are in right now, who are struggling just to pay 2 of them, let alone 3. We need to compliment T-Mac and Coker with a serviceable speedy #3 right now, which is a type of player you usually can get on the cheap in FA year to year or in the 3/4 round range. Then if we want to bring in a better #3 option, we do it in the 1st Round a year or two after T-Mac and Coker get their big extensions, as then it's a more manageable WR for cap purposes for 3-5 more years.

This And with possibly needing to replace Bryce next year and a deep QB class, I do not hate the idea of moving far enough back to pick up another 1st rounder next year out of the deal. I wouldn't have said that a week ago, but I also never expected us to land 3 big FA's at our 3 biggest positions of need like we have, it totally changes things.

Am I the only one who doesn't understand this fan bases infatuation with adding a high end TE? Especially when we have some bigger bodies in T-Mac and Coker who can slide into the slot at times and provide the big dependable target over the middle that most teams use their TE for. I mean, sure, it would be nice to have one of those elite TE's, but I feel like that's a position your better off going cheap with a committee who each bring something different to the table while spending our cap room on the more important positions. I like the potential we saw from Evans this year, Sanders could be a best if he can stay healthy, and Tremble has improved as well. Just feels like spending high draft picks or cap space on other needs and more important positions is a better use of our resources than splashing on a TE in the draft or FA. Are those guys on the level of the Bowers or McBride's of the world? Of course not, but we also are paying a fraction of the cost on our TE room than they are, and we're able to use that money for other needs.

Wow, so we’ve now filled our 3 biggest roster holes with legitimate impact players. And while everyone says this is now making the draft a true BPA pick now, I think it actually significantly increases the chances we trade back. If we can pick up a future 1st to move back in the 1st this year, or even into the top of the 2nd round, then I’d be all for it. Filling these 3 holes, it actually makes it more difficult for us to find a week 1 starter in the 1st, so trading back could make a ton of sense.

He tried to run his girlfriend off the road by purposefully crashing his car into her, then ran from the cops and assaulted them. There are a lot of crimes NFL teams will look past and give a player a shot, I'd be shocked if any of them do that in this instance.

return quickly? dude is never playing another snap in the NFL again.

But you’re still ignoring my point in that post. If he’s our 3rd best WR like you think, then he’d be the 2nd best on the Jets and they decided not to give the RFA tender to him, which would have kept him there on the cheap. To me that says everything

But again, to your point, it's the Jets and they have nobody outside of Wilson at WR for next year. So if Metchie is really as good as you think he is, why wouldn't they have made the RFA tender offer to him? That to me is the bad sign, that the Jets had him there for most of last season and they didn't want to try and keep him despite their awful WR room.

No, he needs to earn his paycheck in the draft. No matter how good you are in Free Agency, you can't be a sustainable and SB contending team without drafting well, and that goes beyond the 1st round.

Only if the team doesn't think Brooks can be good. I want to give Brooks a chance, as if he's healthy, he should be the best RB on the team next year, and he won't get that chance if Kamara is here along with Chuba. But if they don't think he can be the same player we expected when drafting him anymore, then I'd be all for it, as he'd be a great receiving back to pair with Chuba.

It was the season he won the Heisman and Metchie had the best year of his career while being named 2nd team All SEC, not to mention I'm sure they still threw together quite a bit his Freshman year when he backed up Mac Jones. We're not talking about some 400 yard season, they had a real connection that year. He's been a teammate with Metchie longer than he's been with T-Mac and for the same amount of time as Coker and XL. Sure, it was a few years back, but these guys also remain friends with former college teammates, so he still could have a better relationship with Metchie than any of our current WRs due to the longevity. There is no way we're signing Metchie if not for the Bryce connection, so to dismiss it like that is the crazy thing.

What?!?! Say you think he can turn into something at some point, but this is a whole lot of praise for someone with less than 700 yards across 3 seasons of his career. If he was remotely close to being the 3rd best WR on our team right now, the Jets wouldn't have let him walk without tendering him the RFA offer.

Exactly my point And signing a WR that might be a camp fodder level of talent, but has a history of being a safety valve for Bryce, isn't going to help him out this year, it only has the potential for him to fall into old traps again. Would have been thrilled with this move 2 years ago. But 2 more seasons of Metchie not showing much, and just not a fan of it at this point with such a critical season upcoming for Bryce and the franchise.

And yet, the Jets didn't even tender him a RFA offer. Yet another reason I don't love this, if the Jets don't think he's good enough to keep around given their WR needs, then why do we think he is?

I get it, but the "trust" is my problem. Would just rather bring in a better player than someone Bryce trusts. We need a real #3 in the slot, not players who have been on 3 teams in the last 18 months and none of them wanted to keep him around. Now... if you tell me that the staff is actually 100% sold on Horn Jr being the clear cut slot starter this year, then maybe I'll feel differently. As that then pushes XL into the #4 (like I want if he's still here), Moore as the #5 (aka special teamer), and then Metchie is just someone to make Bryce comfortable with in camp and fight out Tremayne for the last possible roster spot that wouldn't get a jersey on game days. I just doubt that's the case given Horn Jr's usage late in the season, didn't scream "we think he can be our #3 next year"

Honestly, think I'd rather have brought back Curtis than sign Metchie (and Curtis' NFL career may be done anyways). At least he would be a great vet presence to have for T-Mac, Coker, and XL.

He's played 3 full seasons since then, if he's not fully recovered from the leukemia, then he shouldn't have been playing the last 3 years. I'll also be honest that I don't think I've seen any of his Jets highlights, but 256 yards in 9 games and 7 starts, doesn't scream showing flashes to me.

Which again, is why he's the wrong guy to bring in if that's the case. Bring in any one of another couple dozen players with the same abilities, not a friend of Bryce's who is either going to get unwarranted targets and/or frustrate Bryce when/if we end up cutting him. This is a make or break year for Bryce and this coaching staff. Don't bring in borderline roster guys when we only have 2 legitimate NFL WRs right now.

He's a 3 year vet with what, 5-7 decent games throughout his career? He's had more than good enough OL play the last 2 seasons to have shown better decision making than he has in that time. And he had the ROY this past season along with a breakout WR the second half of the season. Bryce's problems are Bryce's to solve, not improving the roster around him. And that's not to say we can't still improve the roster around him, but he was the #1 pick, we've given him enough to where he 100% should have shown more with it so far.

Is he? I wanted him a few years ago because I thought he was talented as well. But 686 yards in 3 seasons and been traded twice in the last 7 months, doesn't really scream "talented player" any more.

This is exactly what concerns me about this move. Has Bryce really shown you enough for you to think he won't have that sentimentality when the pass rush is coming down on him? He's shown me the exact opposite, that in those situations, he's goes to what's most comfortable to him and not what is the best football decision. And putting a guy on the team who was one of his main WRs the year he won the Heisman scares me. This is a huge year for Bryce and the team, combined with it being a big year of growth for both T-Mac and Coker. We don't need them losing potential targets to a player who doesn't deserve them based on their abilities.

Beyond the locks, that's so gross, there is no reason Tremayne should be our 3rd (as I'm over XL and he shouldn't be higher than #4 on our depth chart this year), just no. It's why I was really hoping we'd just get rid of XL for whatever the best draft pick we can get for him is. Then sign a true quick twitch guy to be our slot WR, and even then, still hope that Horn Jr might take that spot from them in camp anyways and turn that FA signing into our #4, with Moore as a special teamer who gets a jersey and then Tremayne as that last project.

I think that's the problem we have with it. If we're bringing in WRs, they should be a clear cut #3 WR as our starting slot, or they should be a mid round draft pick to see if they can become that guy for us. Signing a FA like this for that spot just seems odd. Then personally, I don't like the previous connection with Bryce for a player of this talent level, as I'm afraid Bryce will want to rely on him more than he should, and we can't have anything hindering Bryce this year if he has any chance at panning out (which again, I still don't think can happen, but that's a different discussion). This feels like a signing due to the Bryce connection, but you make that in year 1 or 2, not going into year 4 when said WR hasn't panned out so far either.

Moore is a special teamer outside of injuries above him and there is zero reason to bring in a depth piece who MIGHT create competition for XL and Horn Jr. Either bring in someone clearly better than them to replace them, or you roll with the guys on rookie contracts and see if they can become a useful player. If you wanted depth who MIGHT turn into competition for those guys, then draft someone somewhere in Rounds 3-5, as that's a great spot to find those quick twitch slot WRs. Just don't love depth signings who have a history with our QB when we have 5 WRs who are already all but on the 53 man roster unless they get traded (like XL).

I'd hope so. And before someone says it, this is NOT me concerned about someone stealing catches from my guy, lol. I'm just afraid of Bryce falling into old habits and it hindering his performance in such a critical season for him and the franchise. If Metchie had been better so far in his career, I'd be jumping for joy over this move, as I'd been calling for it going into both his rookie and 2nd season to try and trade for him. Honestly, is he even any better than Horn Jr? I'd have liked a clear upgrade over Horn Jr if we weren't going to be giving him first crack at that slot role.