tukafan21

I think there's an argument to be made that not only is there no rush to go pro, but unless you're a sure fire can't miss QB prospect, you're better off staying in college than declaring for the draft. If you're even in the discussion of being a mid round draft pick at QB and you put your name in the portal, even if you want to stay at your current school, you're going to get a massive NIL bag dropped at your feet to stay in school. Non first round QB's can make more in one season through NIL than they'll make on their entire rookie contract these days. If you're not a guaranteed Top 10 pick, it's to the point where entering the draft is dumber than just playing one more year in college unless you think you're going to get badly exposed and ruin your NFL prospects in the process.

He's terrible on camera with a microphone in his face, way too soft spoken to ever make it as a commentator, honestly think he'd be worse at that than he is as a player. It's actually always bothered me, for as "polished" as a prospect he was off the field, he just doesn't have that leadership type of voice when speaking with the media. You see other rookie QBs come in and nail it immediately, but we're in year 3 and he still has that "aww shucks" boy-ish mentality when speaking to the media. Genuinely wouldn't shock me to see him end up in coaching, would be a good way to use his "super brain" that his physical limitations don't make up for at this level.

Mahomes backup It really would be a good situation for both sides. Bryce sucks, but he does have some Mahomes-esque style of play at times. He'd be a great addition to the QB room on non gamedays and likely be a good asset for Mahomes to bounce things off of on the sideline during games too. He'd always be mentally ready to play if called upon and could probably execute a lot of KC's plays well, as they do well at scheming players open as well as their large portfolio of trick plays that don't require much from the QB other than mini tosses on their jet sweep type of plays. He could be a long term backup option for them so they don't have to keep cycling in new backups. Now if Mahomes ever really goes down for good for a season, they're screwed, but that would be the case with most backups anyways and think what he'd provide as a pure backup would be better than most other options.

Again, I'm not saying he isn't a great player and I'm not saying he isn't the heartbeat of our team. But a team with a Top 5 draft pick would be better off just using the pick themselves than trading it 1 for 1 for DB. That's still a true elite prospect who will then be on a rookie contract. And that's before even factoring in, if there is a QB available there, there is a 1 million percent chance, someone will be offering a significantly better trade than just DB for that pick. These aren't insults to DB, they're just objectively understanding the value of a Top 5 pick vs a 28 year old DT who's main role is as a space eater and run stuffer as opposed to being a pass rushing menace.

I despise this argument sooooooooooooo much, because yes, he very much asked for it and gamed the system to ensure it happened. He put on bad weight before the combine so he'd weigh in at a number that didn't scare teams off. Because of that he didn't do any physical testing, because he knew he wasn't in the right condition to do them well. Then he cut the weight by his pro day so he could perform better, while then not allowing himself to be re-weighed in at that time, because it would show he wasn't as big as he seemed to be at the combine. They purposefully hid his deficiencies to ensure he was taken at the top of the draft, knowing if they let him perform side by side with the other prospects, he'd have been exposed and fallen in the draft. I get it, you can't blame him for trying to get drafted as high as possible, but it's why the "he didn't ask for it" reasoning falls completely flat with me in regards to Bryce.

If you're a GM with a Top 5 pick and you trade that pick for a 28 year old DT with a big contract, and nothing else, you're getting fired before that other team is even able to use the draft pick they got off you. If there is a QB worth taking at that spot, to begin with, if you're picking in the Top 5, there is a good chance you need to take that QB yourself. Beyond that, if you didn't, there would be multiple offers of multiple 1sts to move up to that spot. If you're taking a 28 year old with a big contract over the multiple first round picks, then you're just an idiot. This is no offense to DB, love the guy, but he's not an Aaron Donald type of DT who is racking up big sack numbers. There is no world where he's worth turning down multiple first round picks (and probably other assets) to take just him back in exchange. If someone is offering us 2 1sts and say a player, maybe another 2nd or 3rd round pick there too, for DB, I'm taking that offer so fast my head will spin. Which is why no team is turning down that trade to take the offer of DB either. Only chance would be if it's a team who lucked into that draft pick through a previous trade (like maybe the Rams with the Falcons pick) and they feel they are a Derrick Brown away from being the SB favorite that season, and even then, I'm not sure they turn down the draft picks based offers.

Even if that's the case, we'll still likely end up picking in the early teens in the end instead of another Top 10 pick to help build out the roster some more. I'm also of the belief that Canales should not be brought back either though, which is why those wins become bad. If Canales deserved to be kept around, they'd then be good wins as they'd help the continuing build of the team. But once we fire him, that all goes out the window at that point unfortunately as it's starting over again, and those morale boosting wins become pointless.

The problem is all those bad wins are also going to hurt our draft position in the end to replace him too. This whole season has gone about as poorly as possible in terms of our long term outlook.

Yep, that throw was EXACTLY what I've been saying on here for weeks. Those 10 yard outs where he needs to throw it 25 yards in the air from the opposite hash, he just can't zip that throw on a line and drive it properly at an NFL level. He can only throw that as a touch pass, which leads to plays exactly like that one. But when I say that, people just talk about how he can throw the ball 60 yards in the air as evidenced by his 5 throws like that in college where he was able to bounce into a perfectly balanced heave.

LOL and on the very next snap.... THAT happens

This about to be the biggest drive of Bryce's career, he needs to lead them on a TD or his Panthers career might be over.

I'd say it's more on Canales There is no way he's run that in practice correctly 100% of the time if he's doing that in the game. Which means they've seen him make that mistake in practice, haven't corrected it, but still decided to call that play in the game.

I'm convinced we are legitimately the worst team to ever have a 5-4 record in the history of the NFL

El-Oh-El

lol that pass to open the drive, wow

That's my Quarterback, but dude hasn't played in 4 years. Even if he's been training every day as if he was going to play again (and I highly doubt he has been), then I'm not even sure he would be better than Bryce right now. Players generally struggle early after missing a full season due to injury or something, 4 years away from the game at a position like that and you're just done, half a beat slow as a QB and it's going to be ugly.

Not putrid... just normal. That's who Bryce has been all year long, a single game over 199 yards passing this year, but people keep talking about his "game winning drives" where he throws 2 check down passes for 15 yards and give him credit for leading us to the win.

But, but, but...... I've been told all year that we should just be celebrating our wins because of how bad we've been the last decade instead of objectively pointing out why we've been winning in spite of our actual play one the field, not because of it. So who could have ever seen a game like this coming?!?!?!

Yes, but no team in their right mind is trading a high draft pick for a DT unless you're also throwing in multiple firsts. So, no.

Yes you do, they're called Doctors or Lawyers.

I said this a few weeks ago, the nickname never made any sense to me, as it was literally just making fun of him for being so bad, but sure, just ignore that and pretend it means he's the GOAT.

He is, but that sack actually was completely on Ickey after seeing that replay. Not a Bryce fan, but I can call out when something wasn't his fault.

But those of us who have been calling that stuff out all year long get attacked for not being a good enough fan. Pack the box, force Bryce to throw, and we're screwed.

I'll be very curious how all those people 2 weeks ago saying "see how bad we look without Bryce, he's clearly the guy" are going to spin this performance so far today.