tukafan21

McConkey is such a better player than XL that it isn't out of the question that he'd have improved us by 1 win last year, which would have dropped us to 10th or 11th in the draft. If we fell to 11th behind SF, they probably take him as they were heavily rumored to want him. 2 more wins and we fall to 11th or 12th, if we are 12th behind both the 49ers and Cowboys, then he's 100% taken by one of them. Even if he was on the board when we were on the clock, I'm not sure we're taking him over a defensive player given how bad the defense was last year. Part of why he was always the pick for me was that we had no legitimate long term WR option at the time, having McConkey would have changed that.

Nah, we take McConkey and I don't think we end up with T-Mac. My personal fandom aside, I think it's obvious that if it's one or the other, T-Mac is the one you want.

I think finding Coker as a UDFA actually makes it sting even more. We back 60 spots later in the draft to move up one spot into the first to take XL instead of just keeping the very next pick and staying at pick 140 instead of 200. We could have had a better pick later on and still taken a player at another position of need, like pass rusher, linebacker, or safety while then landing Coker after the draft.

Even if he's cut, he's not someone we should be targeting. T-Mac is already better than him, and while sure, he might be a slight upgrade at this moment over Coker as a #2, I'm really not sure he would be by the end of the season if Coker improves this offseason like we hope. We need a Tyreek Hill type who isn't Tyreek Hill, not a lesser version of T-Mac. Honestly, outside chance the answer is on the roster and it ends up being Horn Jr, I still don't know why he wasn't getting more snaps this year, he seems like he's oozing potential in the exact role we're needing to complement T-Mac and Coker.

Honestly, for a lot of them, it's probably just as simple as little man syndrome. Take it from someone who was always the shortest kid on every team growing up (I was still 4'10" as a Freshman in HS), it puts a chip on your shoulder that you feel you have to always prove you belong and it makes you extra competitive. Even if you no longer are shorter than everyone, it's still there when you compete. Which again, as someone who ended up 5'10" and is now slightly above average height, when it comes to playing sports, in my head, I'm still the 5'2" I was when I turned 16.

No, I don't want him anywhere near T-Mac or Coker. Tyreek is a terrible locker room presence and it's not like he's some WR savant, he's just faster and quicker than everyone else, which isn't something he can then help teach to our younger guys. I'd LOVE to have a Tyreek type of player, just zero interest in it actually being him.

We have much more urgent needs to use $20 million of cap space on than a WR who doesn't bring any new skill sets into the WR room. If Coker didn't have his late season breakout, then I'd be more open to considering it, but what we need is a complementary WR to him and T-Mac, a shifty speed guy, not another big body.

Anything below .500 next year and we should be replacing both HC and QB

Oh I know you’re not defending him, an I’m not even talking about league or legal punishments. But DV and hitting a police officer with his car, are the type of crimes that regardless of NFL or legal punishments, I think it’s the type of thing that would keep teams from ever signing him in the future

The cop side aside, if there is even the tiniest bit of evidence about him ramming her car multiple times with his own to try and run her off the road, there is no way they'll be able to play him as the victim unless they say she had a gun and shot at him before he did it. If there is ever any public evidence of that or him hitting the cop with his car, he'll never play another snap in the NFL. Teams can sell second chances to their fans with no public evidence, but if there is any public evidence of DA in today's day and age, that player is never stepping into an NFL locker room again, as they shouldn't.

Not a fan of drafting an edge rusher this year. They usually take a year or two to develop if they're not a Top 5 pick type of prospect. Would much rather make an edge rusher our top FA signing and then use the draft to find a starting LB or DB (or LT if one falls to us given Ickey's status). Just seems like the better allocation of resources this offseason, much easier to find an impact MLB late in the 1st round than a pass rusher, just as spending big money on an edge rusher is likely to get you a better ROI than big money on a LB.

Yes, you need to be mentally aware of your feet, but when someone is talking about having "great feet", I look at that as having quick/good footwork that makes you a great WR due to route running. And sure, the first two easy/obvious examples that pop to my mind for XL when I think of his poor mental side of the game this are both feet related (the stepping out of bounds and the crossing route where he only got 1 foot down despite all sorts of room to get two), there are so many others that had nothing to do with his feet this year. Things like how often he runs back towards the LOS trying to make a play, his route running mistakes, particularly against zone, at times appearing to have no idea what the play was, etc. Even that other thread tonight about his interview with Cam, where he said he doesn't talk to Bryce off the field as much as he should, is more proof of his terrible mental side of the game for his preparation and it clearly carries over into Sundays where he has no on field mental awareness. I'm just not sure there are many (any?) examples of players who were so bad at this part of the game 7 years into their post HS career and then found a way to figure it out. You can fix a lot of things in a player, but it's hard to take someone with absolutely zero football awareness and correct it at this point in their career. I do still think XL has a future in this league, but as a Cordarelle Patterson type, who get some handoffs, some easy catches on screens, and returns kicks. Things where it's just give him the ball and tell him to run as fast and hard as he can straight ahead. The problem is usually when players shift into totally different roles like that, it's not with the team that drafted them, it's the next team that benefits.

Agreed, and while I don't want Seattle to win as I don't want to see Darnold win the SB while we have Bryce, that particular post had nothing to do with it being Darnold, I'd have said the same thing if that was the Patriots and Maye from the 14 yard line. That was solely about wanting the Panthers to still hold that record.

Really glad Darnold couldn't complete that to JSN, as if he did, it would have also ended up breaking Delhomme and Moose's record for longest touchdown from scrimmage in SB history. They have the record at 85, and that play was from the 14, so they'd have easily broken it as that was a clear TD if he could have caught it.

So the Falcons gave the Rams the 13th pick in the 2026 draft for a player they get one season out of and then never plays in the league again, lol