tukafan21

If it's T-Mac, I will riot, lol

Says the guy who's analysis of T-Mac is as "a slower XL with better hands" So please excuse me if I don't put much regard behind your opinion of where he's worth being drafted. As I've said over and over again on here, if people want to draft someone else for legitimate reasons, I have no issue with that, it's totally fair. But it's when people say they don't want to draft T-Mac for these weird asinine made up reasons that I take issue with.

They literally didn't, the school put out that he ran 4.48, it was one of the various scouts there who had him at the 4.46 that I mentioned.

So, T-Mac was targeted 5 times with Hunter on him in that game. T-Mac caught 3 of the 5 passes, one of them for a TD, and if you read the article, Hunter also had a Pass Interference call on him against T-Mac in the game... all in a game that T-Mac had over 100 yards and Arizona won... that's 4 positive plays out of 6 targets when Hunter was covering him, something he likely didn't do a ton of seeing as T-Mac had 10 targets and 6 catches with others covering him. And you take that as Hunter winning the battle and the proof that you need to pass on T-Mac? At the absolute worst, that's a push, and even for it to be that, you'd need to show video of Hunter completely locking T-Mac down on every route he covered him and caused the QB to check down off T-Mac to someone else.

I think we're saying the same thing, but it's the semantics you're getting hung up on lol. If Coker had the size, hands, catch radius, and route tree of T-Mac, then you could say he would be a similar player, but if that was the case, then there would be a 0% chance he'd have gone undrafted. I just went with the shorthand instead of going into the many reasons they aren't similar players lol

Yea I know, I guess my point was just that if Coker could even be remotely compared to T-Mac, even in just how they play, then he wouldn't have gone undrafted, at least XL was always going to be a 1st or high 2nd round pick and is a big body (even if that's where the comparisons end, it's still closer than Coker lol)

You know what, I'll do you one better........... Show me this video you claim is out there of T-Mac having 5 catches for 34 yards AGAINST HUNTER in the game this past season and I won't make a single post about T-Mac again leading into the draft, not one post. Mods can hold me to this too, if he posts the video he is claiming that is out there and I make one more post even remotely related to T-Mac, they can ban me from the site for life.

Sure, I was more going with the comparison of an undrafted player last year to a probable Top 10 pick this year

I mean, it got the reaction out of me, so if it was trolling, it did it's job perfectly. If it wasn't trolling, then yea, I don't even know what to say. Comparing Coker to T-Mac, that's just... something else.

This is either elite level trolling, or the posts we needed to say he is the dumbest person on this site, not sure there is anything in between them now that he's said these two things.

Clearly it's not, because you're describing a video that literally can't possibly exist. T-Mac only had 2 catches in that game before Hunter was shut down, so there LITERALLY can't be a video showing video proof of him having 5 catches with Hunter covering him in that game. So I'm not going to try and find some mystical video that you're claiming is out there Show me the video..................................

Show me this video... Because just for poos and giggles, I just went to that game's play by play and searched for T-Mac's catches. And he only had 2 catches in the 1st half, and I know FOR A FACT that Hunter didn't play a single snap in the 2nd half. So flat out, you're incorrect here, no if's, and's or but's about it. Again, I'm not trying to defend a bad game by him, but this all started with you saying he did that vs Hunter, he didn't, I've shown you that, it's a flat out fact, but you still seem to ignore it. And before you go off and say "well then Hunter shut him down even more when he was playing", it doesn't matter to what THIS argument is about. Because even what I just looked up doesn't prove that, because Hunter was in and out of the game even in the first half because of the injury, and even if he played every snap, without watching the game footage to see why T-Mac had the stats he did in that game, it means nothing. AND... even beyond all of that, if you're wanting to judge a player based off a single game, or really, a single half of a game, then you're opinion should be null and void. You want to disregard 3 seasons of elite play for one half of play against one player. You realize that great players battle all the time, and sometimes one wins the matchup and the next time the other does. Even if Hunter completely shut down T-Mac in that game, it doesn't change who T-Mac is as a prospect, it would still be just one game.

Yup, all of this. I love the people who talk about him only being a contested catch guy and just dismiss when I bring up that he was 5th in the Big 12 in YAC, all it does is show they have done nothing more than watch all the highlight clips of his absurd contested catches, but not watch the 20+ minute videos out there of every catch he's made and all the YAC he picks up. And the poor QB play thing is way too overlooked by people, he probably would have had another 200-300 yards and 3-5 more TDs this year with just marginally better QB play. The number of times he was open and would have had a TD with a good pass, but instead, the QB just flat out missed him badly, was far too many to count.

Why? Why is T-Mac's stat line against Colorado in 2024 when Hunter barely played more important? It's not like T-Mac took a step back in 2024, he was still 3rd in the nation in yards, despite having a new coaching staff that was terrible, a massive drop-off in his QB play, and not having other weapons on the offense to take attention away from him. If 2024 is more important, I'd say still finishing up 3rd in the nation in yards despite those things is FAR more impressive on the whole than one bad game against Colorado. AND.... before you go and try and say, "well he racked up 304 yards against a bad UNM team" (as I know people love to try and use that against him)... Take 200 yards off his total that game, so he only had 104 in that game and he still finishes 7th in the nation in yards, despite playing 1 less game than most of those guys as Arizona didn't play in a bowl game this year.