tukafan21

If we land #1 overall, sure I'd like to be able to grab a QB, but only if there really is a can't miss guy who should go #1 overall, not someone who should go mid first but they go #1 because those teams need QBs, that's how we got in this mess. Part of me hopes it ends up a down year for QB prospects and we play it smart and get a Bears like haul in return for ours and then sign someone like Jameis for the season and maybe take a flyer on a 2nd or 3rd rounder at QB. Sure 2026 might suck, but landing a few extra 1st rounders and maybe even a quality player could really help expedite turning the franchise around and having a well built out roster before you draft and insert a QB into it to contend on their rookie contract.

Totally fair, I was just pointing out that since the 1992 season, if you say Hurts is still a HOF TBD, there have only been 4 SB winning QB's who aren't already in the HOF or HOF locks. Which in itself is just a crazy thing to look at and is proof that you can't just win a SB with a great roster, you really do need an elite QB.

Right team, wrong year and player. Since the 2003 season, there are only 2 SB winning QB's who won't end up in the HOF (Hurts not included as I think that's still up in the air), would be Flacco and Foles. The next worst QB to win in that time frame would be Eli, followed by Wilson, and then Big Ben. The other SB winning QB's since then... Brady, Mahomes, Stafford, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees... basically some of the best to ever play the game and Stafford, a surefire HOFer after winning his SB. You have to go back to the 2002 season to find a truly average QB to have won the SB with Brad Johnson and then 2 years before that with Dilfer. Before that, you have to go all the way back to the 1991 season when the Redskins won, everyone else between there are HOFers.

For me it was the incompletion to Sanders. Yes, Sanders still should have caught the ball anyways, but Bryce had to make a jump pass from a standing still position because of his height and oncoming pass rusher. Because of that combined with his weak arm, it was a low pass, whereas a QB with a real NFL arm (and size) is making that throw with ease and still hitting the receiver in the chest with the ball, not down by their knees.

This is literally all it ever comes down to for me with Bryce. He doesn't have a single physical trait at the average level of a starting QB in the NFL, it's why the draft pick itself just never made any sense to me. Picking Bryce (for any team) was always going to be betting on him becoming the biggest outlier in the history of the sport/position because of his "super brain" he sold everyone on. Just that FACT alone should have kept him out of any discussion for a #1 overall pick, let alone a massive trade up to go get him. So then, if that super brain hasn't figured it out by Year 3, it's pretty clear that he never will, and when that's the case, his physical limitations just don't allow him to be a successful long term solution.

The toe was bad, the walking slowly back to the LOS at the end of the first half was SOOOOOOOOOO much worse. That's literally middle school football 101, end of a half in the hurry up, you don't just casually stroll back to the LOS, just mind boggling how that can happen in the NFL like that.

It's not like he's a Greg Hardy or Deshaun Watson. Those are bad people in a totally different way than Smitty is a "bad person" like you say. Being a jerk shouldn't factor into where he ranks amongst other players in a franchise's history. Luke's career was too short, Peppers left on his own for half his career before returning at the end, and Cam, for as great as he was, was still a very up and down passer who couldn't lead us to back to back winning seasons (don't hate on me, Cam is my Quarterback, love him to death, but just calling it objectively like I see it). Smitty was a special teams draft pick who's dog mentality drove him to a HOF career as a truly 1 of 1 type of player for his position. There has never been before, or since, a player of Smith's size who plays the WR position the way he did. Don't like him all you want, but he's still the Panthers GOAT, sorry.

He's just upset that T-Mac is making him look like a fool and already looking like he might be a long term threat to his status as the Panthers WR GOAT. Trust me, Smitty is my guy, in my opinion, he's the Panthers overall GOAT too, with all due respect to Cam, Luke, and Peppers. But he does seem like the type to me to be upset about being wrong on the guy who is going to be a threat to his records and franchise standing.

Hopefully, because he wouldn't be eating too many W's here

You really think the Bengals are going to give up a 2nd round pick, particularly given their current cap situation, for a 3 month rental of Bryce with the hopes of him keeping them in the hunt until Burrow comes back?!?! That would be a completely asinine move on their part. They're almost certainly going to just go with Browning while bringing in a vet to help mentor him. Which is why I think they'd give up a 6th or 7th to bring Dalton back home to be that guy. And given the Giants having absolutely no use for Jameis, I think they'd be willing to move him for that late round pick right now too.

He's on pace for 1,428 right now with Bryce With Jameis for a 17 game season, he legit could lead the league in receiving yards as a rookie.

3 Team Trade... Bengals receive Dalton from Panthers Giants receive late draft pick from Bengals Panthers receive Jameis from the Giants Gives us a big fearless arm to eventually put into the lineup when Bryce gets hurt or sucks more, which will help us develop T-Mac, Coker, Brycen, Horn Jr, Sanders, Evans, and XL.

Well, to be fair, not sure I ever actually even predicted we'd take him, just that we should because he'd be a stud at a position we haven't been able to fill properly since we lost Smitty (and kinda DJ), which he's clearly proving me to be correct about.

When I saw the thread just now and saw the date of the first post, I said to myself, “oh nice, can’t wait to see what I said in here” and then was shocked to not see a post from me in there, lol