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Haha. True. But that just argues for building a great defense, stout line, and good skill position players, so that the QB isn't drafted year 1 and expected to turn a team around year 1. Oh, and yeah, get a non-college coach.

Tanking doesn't work. Developing quarterbacks is how you get a franchise quarterback.

Defense can't key on CMC anymore. How is this Bucs offense ranked so high?

Shi is in his head and worried about mistakes. And therefore, he is making them.

Wow, this Bucs offense is not good right now.

Same.

I think he is right. The scheme's only benefit is that with quick passes, drops and deflections, that doesn't show up as a pressure stat. Factor that with how few offensive snaps the offensive has taken this season, short passes and emphasis on runs, and it inflates their numbers. They are clearly better than last season by a margin, but top 6? top 10? Not situationally and when a drive is on the line. I'd like to see the stats on pressures/sacks on third and obvious passing downs.

The only good offense all season has been in 2-minute/hurry up - with Mayfield and now PJ. 2nd Half - three and outs start again. McAdoo and Scheme are the problem. With the ALL22, I'll be interested to see if they did anything different this game without CMC, but most of the success thus far seems to be PJ being accurate and the Bucs defense being poor.

Why wouldn't he be? The 2 minute offense has worked all season, even with Mayfield. McAdoo has the least influence on that. PJ to DJ was 2 min offense.

As I've been saying all season, only the two minute offense works because McAdoo is out of the way. All our best offense this season is hurry-up.

Another 3rd down sack on PJ vs Bucs on a decent offensive drive. My point is about situational poor line play when it matters or is an obvious passing down, when they don't need to guard the flat against the screen (thanks McAdoo). Rewatch the snaps and you'll see situational Oline breakdowns have killed drives as much as drops, deflections (also an Oline issue), or miscommunication/routes/overthrows between QBs and receivers.

As an outspoken critic of McAdoo and his scheme, I would concede that the QB position in this offense isn't helping, but it's the offense, and coaching failing skill position players. But I don't think the particular QBs are the issues, and having any other QB would help much, except maybe Lamar Jackson or a Justin Fields type, who could just take the ball and run until he inevitably got hurt. Mayfield is a good scrambler, going back to college, PJ is a fast little dude, if they'd let him move, Darnold also is a good athlete (not that we've seen him play yet). The line is still blowing protections on key downs, which is what this thread was about, and it's hiding in the analytics.

You hope to hit on a 1st rounder and land a Burns-type. I don't see how trading helps when the pick could be for a less impactful player.

Except it's not. Go watch the plays, watch the protections, watch the coverages, who is (not) open in the progression, who is even lookin back to the QB to allow a dump off, if the defense is man or zone, and if it's man, how much separation do the receivers have (little based on the film), then look at OLine and Dline, who is getting beat or missing their assignment, who is not getting picked up, is the pocket holding or collapsing, or is the olin moving or failing to move with the rollout, or in the case of several sacks moving into the QBs escape route to scramble. I'm confident in my stances on the offense because I've watched more game film than is healthy this season. It's easy to blame the QB, and even easier to blame Mayfield, but... ... go watch the game film from last week with PJ/Eason, we see the same stuff. Good pass blocking at times, then blowing protections. Recall, why was PJ out at the end? A free blitzer went untouched and murdered him. Not a single blocker is even in the area to pick him up. Could that be Elfein or PK blowing protection calls or McAdoo? There are many things that lead to a sack. The reason this team is 1-5 and not 3-2 or even 4-1 is that no part of the Panthers in 2022 has been able to put a complete game together, and the mistakes have all come at the worst time, including the oline.

I don't agree, but this still made me laugh.

I think your interpretation is the exact opposite of what I see happening on game film. I have watched every offensive snap this season between 4-6 times (some more), and the sack rate should be higher, but Mayfield/PJ evading pressure has made the pass protection stats better then that. The line should be giving up a few more sacks per game if not for QB escapability. The line play has been better than expected, but on 3rd downs and obvious passing downs they give up vital sacks, often the pocket collapsing from both strong and weak sides, with pressure up the middle as well, making stepping up into the pocket impossible. Of course, the oline's ability to block and the QB vacating the pocket is also a factor of receivers being open or note, routes, etc. When the QB sees no one open, the pocket collapsing they scramble, and then sacks can happen. Icky is developing fast though. The more film I watch the less I trust the analytics floating around.

Social media has taught me that white people all look the same.

DJ is not looking good by these metrics - not open and not making the catch. This jives with my re-watches and analysis. DJ is not playing as well as he's capable, but who is? CMC would have 600 yards with a better run scheme and offense. As with Mayfield and CMC's usage, I blame Rhule/McAdoo for misusing talent, not playing to strengths, instead playing to weaknesses. Too bad this chart doesn't show WR blocking...

I will watch the ALL-22 later this week. NFL+ is now saying "available 24 hours after game ends" - so i guess with the later game time it's delaying the posting.

Hiit submit too early. Eason "looks" good, like a big, big armed QB. His decisions and accuracy were not great in limited sample size. CMC blew up that easy screen and was looking to make a house call but the DB played it correctly and got the tackle. Eason's next throws were not inspiring and the eventual interception which was the worst of the season, as at least 2 rams could have made a play on the ball before reaching the receiver. But, given he's been here what a week or two? He could have played worse up til then. Too small a sample size, but at least the moment wasn't too big for him to muff a snap or turtle up under pressure. Also, Elfein is one bad snap away from a huge game changing turnover. Every game during rewatches I see Mayfield snagging bad snaps in shotgun, and then there were several terrible snaps that PJ, to his credit, hauled in and avoided disaster. Ultimately, the Rams were beatable if Mayfield or maybe Darnold were in, and Horn wasn't out. It's crazy to me that with this schedule, if not for Rhule, Snow, and McAdoo, this team could be sitting at 4-2 and 5-1 even, with the defense playing well, and just running the 2 min offense or getting the OC out of the way. The only decent team of the bunch seems to be the Giants.

I saw somewhere that Icky's PFF grade was worse in the Rams game. For a year 1 left tackle he's shown great improvement. I just did my first rewatch of the Rams game, but mostly was watching general offense. The problem with the oline remains situational. They still get beat on blitzes and stunts, Elfein misses protections (see Ramsey coming and killing PJ from Sunday), and there run blocking is suspect because of CMC's elite vision and lateral movement. The YAC are very telling and likely inflating the. Prior to Mayfield going down, the pass blocking was also inflated by Mayfield scrambles. He's got those happy feet for a reason, and probably about 2ish sacks a game were saved. I think Panthers got a good one in Icky. He's already playing at a level beyond expectations for a young tackle, and he's gone up against a murderers row of NFL edge talent from the jump.

If DJ or CMC go to the Chiefs, I am quitting. Not to mention that'd be removing the only real offensive talent from skill positions, Mahomes has been the most spoiled QB in the NFL since he got in th eleague. Getting a year of development on a good roster, Reed and Kelce and Tyreek. Now they have an elite run defense, add in CMC and the Chiefs and why even watch them play, unless the Bills trade for Deebo or something to compete. A two team league. Blech.

It's fun taking shots at the QBs, but the problem is having coaches who could not cut it in the SEC running an NFL franchise. If you actually want to understand what's wrong with this team and organization, you gotta look past individual players. A good team can carry a weak player. An elite talent can't carry a dysfunctional team, let alone the dysfunctional organization that Tepper has created for the Panthers by hiring college coachs to run a professional franchise.

Trade McAdoo to the Bills. QB this year will resolve itself then. CMC healthy is one of the best football players in the world. CMC should stay and the team should hire a new cap specialist. The cap isn't real. It's a game of kick the can that never really ends.

Whelp, this ruined the last day of my vacation. I would bet any amount of money that Mayfield, Darnold, PJ, and Eason (and the QB brought in next week) would all perform better following McAdoo's keycard being deactivated.