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they got it done without giving up the 25 1st. That is HUGE. love DJ so much and will miss him, but this move is so much better than it could have been.

the major injury was probably somewhat exaggerated in my opinion. even if it weren't then it's not that big of an issue. it's not like it was his throwing shoulder. the one year into his contract doesn't matter a lot. if teams liked him in the draft last year they'll give up a comparable pick maybe a round back. you just don't usually see guys traded in this situation without having been seen except for a quarter of football.

1. he doesn't know what Corral would get because Corral has not been on the block. 2. if they traded him right now, it would be highly premature because they haven't even seen him throw. that's a major reason it won't happen. 3. people talk out of their ass all the time, that doesn't make it a rumor. it just means they want to validate their point by saying unprovable things. 4. If Corral was dealt, we would get at least a 4th for him, because I doubt we were the only ones who had him on their board and at worst he would have gone in the next 30 picks. He has given the league no reason to believe his stock has gone down. In fact, one could presume he's a year more mature after a year of understudy.

We have to go up and get C.J. Stroud. I don't know how many people know his story, but he's overcome so much adversity to be here. His Dad has been incarcerated since he was small and all he has done is continue to defy the odds. He was a 3 star QB his Junior season in HS and had such a dominant year he got bumped up to 5. He went to Ohio State to play behind Justin Fields, which is something not many would have done, and was booed the first time he set foot on the field in the Horseshoe. In this day of soft athletes who will use the transfer portal for hurt feelings, he had a million reasons to leave. There was competition. He was up against Quinn Ewers who had a record NIL deal. If you listen to his press conference after the Michigan game, you'll see his character. He was baited several times with questions that were designed to allow him to speak negatively about others and he kept bringing it back on himself. Asked about a refusal to go for it on 4th down, he backed his coach even though he disagreed with the call. He showed up and answered questions after perhaps the most heartbreaking loss you can have. Against your undefeated rival by 3 points at home with an amazing performance against what was essentially an NFL defense. Zero excuses for a defense that gave up 44 points. He didn't mention it once. As for football skills, off the charts. He's a football player so his best throws have been in football games, but if you watch his footwork, the way he holds the ball high, and the smoothness of his mechanics it reminds me a lot of Peyton Manning. He throws as hard as he needs to throw to put the ball where it needs to be. People make a lot of overwhelming arm strength but it doesn't matter if you have poor timing on your release. Stroud is almost textbook at getting the ball out of his hands at the correct time. People were worried about the deep ball and as you heard Eisen say during his throwing session on his 3rd throw, "oh, he's got it." Bryce Young didn't throw. On the advice of some agent. He came in, measured short, and didn't do any drills. It isn't like he doesn't have competition for 1st overall. This isn't Trevor Lawrence. The competitor alone should have been enough to make him want to come out and throw head to head with the rest of these guys to prove he's that guy. It's fear and lack of self-belief and letting some agent make the business decision and walk around the combine like the mayor. Give me the guy that showed up and showed out. The one who wanted this stage.

This wouldn’t be a bad move at all. Think about it like this. We draft a rookie QB and give up 24 and 25 first. Any QB we draft could benefit from a year under Reich regardless of who it is. We need a QB good enough to keep us competitive in the short term while our future QB gets mental reps and instruction to be ready to win when he starts in year 2. Our WR and TE group will need to develop as well with a veteran QB so when rookie takes over they know the assignment. We could sneak into contention and it would be amazing for the room to get that experience before rookie takes over the huddle.

If we were to give up our 1st in 24 and 25, it might not hurt as bad as it would have other years. with 2 picks in the 2nd, if we ended up picking 1st, 39th, and 61st we could have one hell of a draft. If we can drum up some interest i Corral down the line, we could almost certainly recoup some value if we had the ability to trade him in one of those years we gave up our 1st. there's a lot still to happen. I don't think it's a death sentence.

they asked him to manage games last year, not win them. he rode the running game to those wins and wasn't asked to make a single difficult throw. what was his stat line in the last game? like 13 yards passing until the final drive? all they were trying to get out of Darnold was teaching him how to not lose games, not how to win them. he will not start again for us unless there are injuries. he'll probably have a long career as a backup because he's affable and gets along well with others in the QB room and outside it, but if you have to put him in games that mean anything you're going to have trouble.

This is the best move for the Ravens and a nightmare for Lamar. they're making him put his entire reputation leaguewide on his performance next season. if he balls out, he gets paid but loses another year of his prime on a ticking timebomb. if he gets hurt again, he's not getting an offer like the ones he's turned down from the Ravens to this point. Vick was pretty much done as an impact player after his 30 YO season. Cam was done after 29. McNabb's mobility was highly compromised after his 28 YO season. McNair didn't have another 200 yard rushing season after 29 after rushing for 440 that season. So with that in mind, you have a similar style player here that wants more than 5 years at $50 million after turning that down. He has 2.5-3.5 seasons as a game changing QB remaining based on historic comps. He has 1 Wild Card round playoff victory and 3 losses.

I think announcing their intentions this way, Carolina was sending a message that they were going to heavily compete for any place to move up the draft board and if a team like the Saints, Jets, Seahawks, etc. were thinking of moving up, they might want to reconsider with our commitment to unloading the clip. Sending out the vibe we're going to make a nutso offer can help eliminate competition and help that nutso offer be a little less nutso.

It's weird, because talent only plays a portion of the formula for a QB. Darnold has good mobility and a good arm. Levis has a "once-in-a-draft" type velocity and effortless deep ball. But if we deduce that Levis has more gumption and composure than Darnold, he's already 50% more likely to be better. Darnold reminds me a bit of David Carr when he got here after playing for the Texans and getting railroaded. Tons of arm talent, decent mobility, pretty smart kid... but all of that wasn't enough to offset the shell shock of having played several years for the Texans without an OL and getting the snot beat out of him. I think selective aggression is what the smart teams do. We have played the BPA game over QB a number of years in a row when it seemed like we should have made that pick. Fields is an example. If we decide collectively that this is the year of the QB, we have to go for it in my opinion. You're rarely in the conversation to get the best QB in the draft and from where we are, we can potentially make that happen.

it feels like this every year though, doesn't it? you have 2 guys by merit who should be 1-2 in my mind in Stroud and Young. Then you have 2 "tools" guys in Richardson and Levis that are making QB needy teams salivate while watching Derek Carr get a $90 million contract and Geno Smith get $40 guaranteed over 3 years. We can't afford to lose the musical chairs game this season, again, and have to go with a patchwork starter for the 4th consecutive season with Bridgewater, Darnold, Mayfield, and ....Wentz? The veterans are finding homes fast and furious. If we don't get our starter in the draft, which excludes all but Young, Stroud, and a big maybe on Levis... you don't have a starter. AR will certainly take a redshirt season and I am about 50/50 on Levis, but the other 2 should likely be in the mix for Week 1. We need one of those guys.

we have to decide if it will be less expensive to go from 9 to 3 then 3 to 1 or go from 9 to 1. all these QBs jumping up the board is going to see a lot of the original Top 5 talents slip into the 6-10 range. I think 3 of the first 4 picks will be QB and Seattle may be inclined to take Levis. Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Christian Gonzalez, Lukas Van Ness, Peter Skoronski, plus the fastest rising WR prospect if you keep Fields... all but 1 of these players will be available at 6th if Seattle goes QB. If you can trade down to 9th, take the far better pick package, and still get one of your Top 3 guys on the board with QB excluded you have to explore it. These are difference makers at their positions even at 9th with the run on QB expected to happen.

Carolina has seen something this process that has taken them out of the veteran QB market. By taking themselves out of the Carr conversation to now Rodgers talking to the Jets near exclusively, we've got our eye on someone pretty hard. I like it as long as we don't have to give up 3 total 1st round picks. Bears aren't going to trade Fields. Too quiet on that front. I think we like Stroud and I think Houston also likes Stroud, so we either trade up to 1st to take him or we get up to 1st to take Young. I think they're feeling the pressure to do something big time big time.

it confuses me how people are so high on Richardson now when we knew he was going to do this. in fact, his ability to run and throw as well as he does in pajamas makes me wonder why he wasn't more productive during his college career. in a weird way, his testing in throwing has made me even more concerned because if he has that kind of arm then why were his passing stats so pedestrian? there's something wrong with this situation. you can talk scheme, bad players around him, bad coaching, etc. but Cam went to Blinn CC and won a championship then did the same at Auburn. Lamar Jackson had one of the best dual threat seasons in NCAA history. if Richardson is a mix of those two, why does that mix play like crap? The experts were smart enough to sniff out Malik Willis last year when his combine had him at the top of everyone's board. people have to wake up on this kid, because he doesn't have the tangible results to match his immense skill.

I really wasn’t (and only jokingly am “off him”) it was just a joke, man.

This may have honest to god put me off this dude.

This stupid wrong place at the wrong time nonsense is so ridiculous. He was running with these dudes well enough to have the shooters gun and ride with them like that. He knew where he was. If one of your people texts you to bring the gun what do you think is happening when you get there? he shouldn’t be allowed back on the team if they find out he brought that gun with him. I know the official narrative right now doesn’t say that’s a fact of the case but they need to dig more on that. If he was riding with it anyways and gave it up when he got there that’s a problem too. Crazy situation.

Additionally, there are a few reasons not to do this. Cam Newton after 30. Michael Vick after 30. Randall Cunningham after 30. Your favorite HB after 30. it might be even worse with Lamar because of the speed of the game now compared even to the time Cam was dominating. Dual threat guys have been somewhat caged by defense going speed only and the arms are coming back into style. So are big bodied TE that edge rushers can’t cover for 3 downs.

Lamar and the Ravens are where they are because they’ve both seen the same things. Lamar Jackson’s medicals.

If I were a free agent I would go visit teams in reverse interest level to see what I was leaving on the table elsewhere. If my visit with my favorite at the start of the process goes well, I can sign that day without hesitation. If it goes poorly, my plan isn’t ruined by having laser focused on a team with ideological differences. I would then move on to my favorite destination from the visits. In my experience, the betting line on things like this starting so heavily in our favor means something. The casino doesn’t give away free money. Let him make the rounds.

There’s a degree of Matthew Stafford to this situation with Carr. He’s had an awful, awful situation to work from his entire career. He’s had some weapons but his line has always been fairly weak. The Raiders in modern times are one of the worst managed franchises not named Browns or Lions. The Raiders are still playing old style ball and trying for chunk plays instead of moving the ball methodically with makeable throws. Get Carr back up to 70% and he will be more than enough. What we do need is a big TE acquisition and to invest into some speed for our RB and WR vacancies. Our defense is very close to ready to compete. Carr being 32 is not a death sentence. He could have 4 or 5 good years. I think he’s going to want a prove it deal with loads of incentives. Should be interesting to watch. I don’t know how anyone can look at the teams on his list and think anyone but this team is the better situation. Our line has been on the upswing.

Well, says fugin you right? How you can be so confident in certainty is super weird unless you hired her. But if it's important for you to maintain that delusion I won't poke at it anymore.

I'm like a Sith in I don't deal in absolutes, but Jacob Eason's arm power made him one of the highest regarded prep quarterbacks in Rivals history. He has an absolute cannon for an arm, but the questions are everywhere else. For one, his mobility is well well under average for an NFL QB. They're trying to build a QB around this arm it's so special. Without speaking to throwing accuracy, mobility, leadership, and every other trait about quarterbacks that are requisite for success it could be argued successfully that Corral has those things in the matchup. However, Eason's arm is preposterous. It's barely worth debating.

As Journey says, don't stop believing. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve the job, she's probably incredibly bright, but the interest in him coaching this team predates her hiring by a lot and there's nothing at all wrong with them hiring her as incentive for Reich to consider our opening here. I just don't think it's possible it was entirely unrelated.

Sure, man. Nothing at all to do with the fact her Dad was the next head coach of this football team. But yeah, Eason has twice the arm of Corral but he's erratic and inconsistent with it. I never said he was a star in the making, but for a supposed scrub he has had a lot of brushes with starting games. People love the arm strength and the prep history. Corral has the edge in mobility by miles and probably decision making as well, but I haven't seen enough of him in live action to comment any more than generalities. I think you're underrating him and the kid could be his PJ Walker for all we know.