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This stupid wrong place at the wrong time nonsense is so ridiculous. He was running with these dudes well enough to have the shooters gun and ride with them like that. He knew where he was. If one of your people texts you to bring the gun what do you think is happening when you get there? he shouldn’t be allowed back on the team if they find out he brought that gun with him. I know the official narrative right now doesn’t say that’s a fact of the case but they need to dig more on that. If he was riding with it anyways and gave it up when he got there that’s a problem too. Crazy situation.
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Interesting twist regarding Lamar Jackson...
SameDamnThing replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Additionally, there are a few reasons not to do this. Cam Newton after 30. Michael Vick after 30. Randall Cunningham after 30. Your favorite HB after 30. it might be even worse with Lamar because of the speed of the game now compared even to the time Cam was dominating. Dual threat guys have been somewhat caged by defense going speed only and the arms are coming back into style. So are big bodied TE that edge rushers can’t cover for 3 downs. -
Interesting twist regarding Lamar Jackson...
SameDamnThing replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Lamar and the Ravens are where they are because they’ve both seen the same things. Lamar Jackson’s medicals. -
If I were a free agent I would go visit teams in reverse interest level to see what I was leaving on the table elsewhere. If my visit with my favorite at the start of the process goes well, I can sign that day without hesitation. If it goes poorly, my plan isn’t ruined by having laser focused on a team with ideological differences. I would then move on to my favorite destination from the visits. In my experience, the betting line on things like this starting so heavily in our favor means something. The casino doesn’t give away free money. Let him make the rounds.
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1. Carr isn’t JAG. The mistake has been targeting young and unproven QB under 25 or so and handing them the keys after they flat tired another organization and hoping their lack of success was circumstances. Carr has won in this league. He will have to answer the playoff questions, but he’s not Baker Mayfield. He can ball. This is a proven starter. 4 time PB with 35k passing yards 200+ TD 91.8 career passer rating good for 25th all time Top 40 all time in attempts, completions, and yardage. He would immediately become the 2nd best we’ve ever had here. 2. There are just as many posters here infatuated with the idea of taking a QB in this draft even if he sucks rather than putting the best option back there. We have been in rebuilding mode with Rhule for like 3 years. This team is ready in many ways, but that hole at QB is glaring. It’s doubtful that anyone we can take at 9 is going to answer that question. They would rather have a fresh pair of socks full of holes than a gently used pair that more than get the job done. 3. We need to prove to our team and fans that we want to win. Rhule set this franchise back a decade with his nonsense. We are assembling a staff not built for a tank year. Too much talent.
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There’s a degree of Matthew Stafford to this situation with Carr. He’s had an awful, awful situation to work from his entire career. He’s had some weapons but his line has always been fairly weak. The Raiders in modern times are one of the worst managed franchises not named Browns or Lions. The Raiders are still playing old style ball and trying for chunk plays instead of moving the ball methodically with makeable throws. Get Carr back up to 70% and he will be more than enough. What we do need is a big TE acquisition and to invest into some speed for our RB and WR vacancies. Our defense is very close to ready to compete. Carr being 32 is not a death sentence. He could have 4 or 5 good years. I think he’s going to want a prove it deal with loads of incentives. Should be interesting to watch. I don’t know how anyone can look at the teams on his list and think anyone but this team is the better situation. Our line has been on the upswing.
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Well, says fugin you right? How you can be so confident in certainty is super weird unless you hired her. But if it's important for you to maintain that delusion I won't poke at it anymore.
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I'm like a Sith in I don't deal in absolutes, but Jacob Eason's arm power made him one of the highest regarded prep quarterbacks in Rivals history. He has an absolute cannon for an arm, but the questions are everywhere else. For one, his mobility is well well under average for an NFL QB. They're trying to build a QB around this arm it's so special. Without speaking to throwing accuracy, mobility, leadership, and every other trait about quarterbacks that are requisite for success it could be argued successfully that Corral has those things in the matchup. However, Eason's arm is preposterous. It's barely worth debating.
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As Journey says, don't stop believing. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve the job, she's probably incredibly bright, but the interest in him coaching this team predates her hiring by a lot and there's nothing at all wrong with them hiring her as incentive for Reich to consider our opening here. I just don't think it's possible it was entirely unrelated.
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Sure, man. Nothing at all to do with the fact her Dad was the next head coach of this football team. But yeah, Eason has twice the arm of Corral but he's erratic and inconsistent with it. I never said he was a star in the making, but for a supposed scrub he has had a lot of brushes with starting games. People love the arm strength and the prep history. Corral has the edge in mobility by miles and probably decision making as well, but I haven't seen enough of him in live action to comment any more than generalities. I think you're underrating him and the kid could be his PJ Walker for all we know.
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Frank Reich's daughter got a job with the Panthers weeks prior to that. I think exploratory talks were going well enough at that point to assume that Eason, who is very on paper similar to guys Reich has liked, might have been something casually mentioned. I'm not saying he beat the table down for him, but Eason isn't camp fodder. He's won some jobs and was right in the mix in Seattle until the very end of camp. Guys come into those meetings with plans and position recommendations. Eason being a Reich pick isn't irrelevant in that scenario in my opinion. Doing little things to improve your chances when you're trying to lure a coach in are appreciated. Corral and Eason will battle in camp. They're less than a year apart in age and both younger than the Georgia starter.
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it's a tough situation for Corral. usually, leftover projects from the previous regime at QB are escorted pretty quickly away. Reich brought Jacob Eason in as his project arm and that might represent the threshold Corral has to surpass to make this team. If you look at the QB that Reich has worked with, they're all arm first guys. Manning in Indy during his first stint. Rivers in San Diego. Wentz in Philly. Rivers again in Indy. Ryan in Indy. This is why he favors Eason, because Eason has the arm talent to match just about anyone in this draft with Will Levis as the only true competition. I know that sounds absurd, but arm talent is not the only measure of a QB, which is why Eason has been in 3 organizations. It does make me believe that Levis is the preference if we're trying to draft a QB this year. Richardson is far too raw for what Reich wants. I think Corral is a bit more of a two way kind of QB where you give up some on the arm for some on the legs and that hasn't traditionally been what Reich has wanted. I think that extends to the draft eligible QB as well with Young and Richardson being less attractive for us.
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Probably the one guy who had value to us moving forward as a wing in a good rotation and he gets shipped out. Rozier should have been gone if there was any legit interest at all no matter what the price. Plumlee the same. I would have listened on PJ as well. We needed to clear the deck of all this veteran weight to get our future back on track and we did nothing except keep enough of it to win enough games to finish 4th worst in a 2 star 1 all star draft. Forever missing the impact draft picks.
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PFF Top 100 Free Agents and their projected contract
SameDamnThing replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think the need at CB is as desperate as some make it out to be. We are going to be getting a LOT of help from Horn being able to take basically half the field away. To me, the big hole in the secondary is Chinn against wideouts. He needs to come back to linebacker where he was an absolute difference maker and not chasing smaller, faster guys down the field. If it shortens his career, it shortens his career. DBs don't exactly live forever either. Keith Taylor, IMO, was better than the noise. C.J. Henderson needs to live full time as the 3rd corner. Taylor can come in on TE assignments and bigger WR. The CBs didn't get a ton of help over the top and we need that centerfielder that can pick up the target quicker and arrive in time to make a play. We don't need 5 picks from that guy. We just need him to keep the lid on. -
PFF Top 100 Free Agents and their projected contract
SameDamnThing replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Dalton Schultz would be a nice grab. We want to run the ball, but we need that guy to be reliable in the middle of the field as well and Ian Thomas just ain't it. Rookie QB in particular use TE like security blankets because of their strength, catch radius, and lower risk of interceptions being covered by LB. We need to invest in that position and ideally a veteran. Jadaveon Clowney might also bring some heat with Burns on the other side and push up the middle from Brown. Tony Pollard would be an interesting add as a pass catching option in the backfield and changeup to Foreman. Mike Gesicki would be a good fall back option at TE. Foster Moreau could be a sleeper there too. -
What would you give the bears for #1 pick
SameDamnThing replied to Jmac's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is how it always goes. Teams are trying to give the Bears the impression they’d be holding the bag waiting for a trade for Young and keeping as much of a poker face as possible. When the balls start flying in private workouts and at the combine, all that goes out the window. We don’t even have a consensus 1-2-3 yet between Stroud, Young, and Levis. Houston has the easiest shot to move up for a few picks. Carolina will have to offer substantially more future value to get the Bears to bite on 1st to 9th. Again, a lot depends on how these kids work out. If we believe our guy is the 3rd ranked guy, we can stand pat and see what unfolds in the run up. It’s not impossible to get our guy outside the Top 5, especially if Levis is our favorite. We could move to the 6th or 7th and offer some certainty to those teams their defensive guy will still be there at 9th. But I would imagine that the QBs worth taking early are going to bunch up in the Top 5 and we will have to pay someone’s price. I think we can get that done with only 2023 picks with as many shots as we have Top 100. If we need to get back in the mix for a TE on Day 2 we can do it with 2024 picks and be alright. However, if we get a faller for some reason we are right in range for him. I don’t know if Bryce will test well enough to answer questions about his height and those are significant. People act like it’s a no story deal but it matters. Stroud will have to test well in athleticism and consistency. Levis doesn’t have the resume but has the arm and the stature. His mobility will also matter. As will his ball placement and decision making. He’s going to have to win in the film room with a lot of teams. My early order is Young then Stroud and then a slight gap to Levis and that can entirely flip based on testing. I think we will be appropriately aggressive considering our ambition to win now with a defense that is a few guys short of elite. -
Joe Person on possible coordinator candidates
SameDamnThing replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
this is the reason you go with reich ahead of wilks -
Do you trust Reich to find us (and develop) a franchise QB?
SameDamnThing replied to t96's topic in Carolina Panthers
one would hope that Reich would be able to recognize the folly in bringing in quarterbacks to patch holes and will want to draft and develop one of his own. the situation in Indy was not his fault. Luck bailing on football left that squad a QB away from doing some great things and they tried their best to make it happen with 2 QB who were just too used up to make it happen. -
Wilks needs to slow down with the racism stuff through his representation. they named an interim they thought would have zero chance of being in the conversation once the actual coaching search started, but he took a team with .500 talent to a .500 record and apparently that should have made him the slam dunk choice regardless of what our intent was when we released Rhule. It was great that the team showed a pulse after Rhule was fired, but is that more an indictment of how much they had tuned out Rhule or an endorsement of Wilks? We remember Week 17 and how anemic the offense was. That was 11 weeks into his interim tag. I can't stress enough that the interim tag was a nod of respect to Wilks, but in no way intended to give him the impression he was the leading candidate on a staff they wanted to entirely eliminate prior to the next season. They awarded him a platform to help find him his next job and that's exactly what happened. No racism. They just already decided what direction they were going with an offensive head coach and Wilks didn't fit the bill and his previous head coaching experience went awful.
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Payton wants more control than we’re comfortable with and the sentiment appears to be the same around the league. No GM wants to lame duck themselves. I still think Wilks inclusion this late is optics driven by how he’s been cast as the player choice. Reich seems very likely the favorite.
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it's almost a foregone conclusion, if not decided already he will be. I think the talking heads would explode on the NFL's treatment of minority candidates if Carollna with one of the most liberal owners in professional sports didn't hire him after how the players responded to him and him raising the team from the dead. I would say 80% chance he's our guy on Week 1. There's a lot of hopeful people out there that would say to the contrary, but there was already huge stink last year when Byron Leftwitch didn't get a gig and several other candidates that were expected didn't even get calls. Tepper will do Goodell a solid and make this hire. It's written on the tea leaves.
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No, he's not. When your rushing attack is having success it doesn't so much matter who is back there. when 2 guys rush for 100 yards in the first half, you better be winning that game. Darnold isn't having to make game defining throws. I don't see how anyone that complained about Bridgewater could view this situation any brighter. Darnold has just embraced the first rule of quarterbacking, which is don't fug up. There's a lot more to it.
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I wouldn't be so sure. there are teams above us that have quarterbacks and we have some ammunition to make a jump if we need it. my hope is that Denver will be motivated to push that Seahawks pick down the board and will stay competitive through the remainder of the year instead of packing up. If we can get Chicago at #2 overall, we could make a compelling case to jump Seattle, Indy, and Detroit for Stroud if we liked him enough. Chicago needs a lot. Arguably more than we do and we have an offensive line ready for a plug and play starter. They might be best taking the draft capital and going playmaker with our 1st and still getting their choice of the WR/TE crop. Detroit would have better picks to offer, but it would make sense for them to pick twice and who knows what they think of Jared Goff right now with how Dan Campbell has these guys playing. They might give him one more season. It's going to depend a lot on not just our pick, but the least QB needy team that ends up in the Top 3.
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Brugler: Next year's quarterbacks "not universally loved"
SameDamnThing replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
what would you guys say if Sean Payton and Lamar Jackson wanted to come here as a package deal, but we had to pay Lamar league record money to make it happen? -
more than I bank on Burns developing into a 20 sack per season player like he will be paid to be? yes. we just paid 2 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick for the right to overpay him. we may as well have made the trade in reverse at the deadline. we gave him the leverage to write his own check and it will be MASSIVE. for what?