SameDamnThing

The thing about the combine is that the level of pressure there simulates a pressurized NFL environment because the whole show isn't about showing how great you are. During a pro day, the team is going to do the best they can to show the routes you throw best and with WR talent you already know and a very scripted set of circumstances designed in favor of one specific person. Going to the combine and throwing to whoever and being forced to throw routes you don't prefer against other QB vying for your position is a stressful experience and one that NFL teams like to see how the talent responds. It sets everyone at equally uncomfortable and shows who can still bring it.

That is a pretty transparent methodology in my opinion. Teams know these guys can put on 10-15 lbs. of bad weight by eating poorly for a month if they don't intend to run drills. I still don't think Young plays at anything over 200 lbs. and probably more like 195. He probably stuffed himself with fishing weights like those guys did in the walleye tournament.

I feel like Young is sneaky sliding to 4th. The rumblings at the combine were not good. First, he knew he was going to come in short. That's no surprise to him or anyone close to him. With that knowledge, the emphasis goes heavily to your throwing session and 40 to make up the difference. He declined to participate in either while the rest of his competition did at least throw and throw impressively. It seems to give the energy that he thought he was locked in at 1st overall or was afraid of testing and hurting his stock which are both bad news. This isn't a generational talent like Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck, this is a guy in a dead heat for the 1st pick and he treated the combine like a meet and greet. It sat wrong with a lot of teams. Some of these kids continue to get bad advice from agents.

I think by the time it comes to pick, all industry secrets about our selection will be gone. It will be hard for the Texans to justify the pick unless they're that much more in love with one over the other. The Texans have the easiest pick in the draft as it stands and would really have to be decisive in one over the other to give up any assets at all. If we were willing to talk on it at all, they would control the price because what we would be telling them is we're taking the guy you want less and want to try to extort a pick out of your presumed preference. It's a weird chess game.

I think a lot of this trade down talk is aimed at Indy feeling the pressure to get their guy at QB, while we're talking ourselves into Levis who is likely someone Reich would feel comfortable taking on for his offense. They want to see if they can get Indy to freak out and offer 35 for the jump down to 4. If they do, we can probably really shore up our all purpose HB and WR positions while adding Levis and recouping some of the cost of moving up. I don't think anyone jumps to 3 for Levis, but maybe they do for AR. If it goes Young/Stroud in some form at 1 and 2, that 3 pick might look good for AR and if it doesn't then he starts sliding a bit. If 3rd pick goes Anderson Jr. or another non-QB, we've got AR and Levis there at 4th because we put our biggest road block to having them both available in front of us by moving Indy around. If our group is certain the 3rd pick is not going to change hands, they have their pick of Levis and AR. If they don't, they still get Levis at 4th with all probability. The fact people have said 3rd overall is a tough spot to move up and would cost nearly as much as 1st makes me believe they're locked on someone, so if you want a Top QB in this draft, all options run through us.

Boy, this is really starting to read like Carson Wentz to the Panthers isn't it unless Jacob Eason has backup QB on lockdown.

He played 14 games last year. he has played 27 of a possible 33 games in his career so far. I don't see the issue there. The reason I said 800 is because he only caught 28 balls last season but had an unsustainable 17.5 yards per catch. if he doubles his catch total to 56 at a more reasonable 13-14 yards per catch, he's around 800 yards. the thing with Terrace is that he's not going to run himself open, so he's very QB dependent. he will reliably catch the ball when he's open, but the route has to beat their scheme more than Terrace can beat his man.

Jakobi Meyers, Terrace Marshall, Shi Smith, and the 39th pick. The place we need the biggest upgrade is at TE and out of the backfield. TE especially. Rookie QBs love to use the middle of the field with those big bodied catch radius guys. Don't sleep on Terrace. 800 yards incoming for him.

terrace marshall is also due to take a step forward. if we sign one veteran and draft at 39 we should have a decent 3 man rotation. we need to sign a TE as well.

they got it done without giving up the 25 1st. That is HUGE. love DJ so much and will miss him, but this move is so much better than it could have been.

the major injury was probably somewhat exaggerated in my opinion. even if it weren't then it's not that big of an issue. it's not like it was his throwing shoulder. the one year into his contract doesn't matter a lot. if teams liked him in the draft last year they'll give up a comparable pick maybe a round back. you just don't usually see guys traded in this situation without having been seen except for a quarter of football.

1. he doesn't know what Corral would get because Corral has not been on the block. 2. if they traded him right now, it would be highly premature because they haven't even seen him throw. that's a major reason it won't happen. 3. people talk out of their ass all the time, that doesn't make it a rumor. it just means they want to validate their point by saying unprovable things. 4. If Corral was dealt, we would get at least a 4th for him, because I doubt we were the only ones who had him on their board and at worst he would have gone in the next 30 picks. He has given the league no reason to believe his stock has gone down. In fact, one could presume he's a year more mature after a year of understudy.

We have to go up and get C.J. Stroud. I don't know how many people know his story, but he's overcome so much adversity to be here. His Dad has been incarcerated since he was small and all he has done is continue to defy the odds. He was a 3 star QB his Junior season in HS and had such a dominant year he got bumped up to 5. He went to Ohio State to play behind Justin Fields, which is something not many would have done, and was booed the first time he set foot on the field in the Horseshoe. In this day of soft athletes who will use the transfer portal for hurt feelings, he had a million reasons to leave. There was competition. He was up against Quinn Ewers who had a record NIL deal. If you listen to his press conference after the Michigan game, you'll see his character. He was baited several times with questions that were designed to allow him to speak negatively about others and he kept bringing it back on himself. Asked about a refusal to go for it on 4th down, he backed his coach even though he disagreed with the call. He showed up and answered questions after perhaps the most heartbreaking loss you can have. Against your undefeated rival by 3 points at home with an amazing performance against what was essentially an NFL defense. Zero excuses for a defense that gave up 44 points. He didn't mention it once. As for football skills, off the charts. He's a football player so his best throws have been in football games, but if you watch his footwork, the way he holds the ball high, and the smoothness of his mechanics it reminds me a lot of Peyton Manning. He throws as hard as he needs to throw to put the ball where it needs to be. People make a lot of overwhelming arm strength but it doesn't matter if you have poor timing on your release. Stroud is almost textbook at getting the ball out of his hands at the correct time. People were worried about the deep ball and as you heard Eisen say during his throwing session on his 3rd throw, "oh, he's got it." Bryce Young didn't throw. On the advice of some agent. He came in, measured short, and didn't do any drills. It isn't like he doesn't have competition for 1st overall. This isn't Trevor Lawrence. The competitor alone should have been enough to make him want to come out and throw head to head with the rest of these guys to prove he's that guy. It's fear and lack of self-belief and letting some agent make the business decision and walk around the combine like the mayor. Give me the guy that showed up and showed out. The one who wanted this stage.

This wouldn’t be a bad move at all. Think about it like this. We draft a rookie QB and give up 24 and 25 first. Any QB we draft could benefit from a year under Reich regardless of who it is. We need a QB good enough to keep us competitive in the short term while our future QB gets mental reps and instruction to be ready to win when he starts in year 2. Our WR and TE group will need to develop as well with a veteran QB so when rookie takes over they know the assignment. We could sneak into contention and it would be amazing for the room to get that experience before rookie takes over the huddle.

If we were to give up our 1st in 24 and 25, it might not hurt as bad as it would have other years. with 2 picks in the 2nd, if we ended up picking 1st, 39th, and 61st we could have one hell of a draft. If we can drum up some interest i Corral down the line, we could almost certainly recoup some value if we had the ability to trade him in one of those years we gave up our 1st. there's a lot still to happen. I don't think it's a death sentence.

they asked him to manage games last year, not win them. he rode the running game to those wins and wasn't asked to make a single difficult throw. what was his stat line in the last game? like 13 yards passing until the final drive? all they were trying to get out of Darnold was teaching him how to not lose games, not how to win them. he will not start again for us unless there are injuries. he'll probably have a long career as a backup because he's affable and gets along well with others in the QB room and outside it, but if you have to put him in games that mean anything you're going to have trouble.

This is the best move for the Ravens and a nightmare for Lamar. they're making him put his entire reputation leaguewide on his performance next season. if he balls out, he gets paid but loses another year of his prime on a ticking timebomb. if he gets hurt again, he's not getting an offer like the ones he's turned down from the Ravens to this point. Vick was pretty much done as an impact player after his 30 YO season. Cam was done after 29. McNabb's mobility was highly compromised after his 28 YO season. McNair didn't have another 200 yard rushing season after 29 after rushing for 440 that season. So with that in mind, you have a similar style player here that wants more than 5 years at $50 million after turning that down. He has 2.5-3.5 seasons as a game changing QB remaining based on historic comps. He has 1 Wild Card round playoff victory and 3 losses.

I think announcing their intentions this way, Carolina was sending a message that they were going to heavily compete for any place to move up the draft board and if a team like the Saints, Jets, Seahawks, etc. were thinking of moving up, they might want to reconsider with our commitment to unloading the clip. Sending out the vibe we're going to make a nutso offer can help eliminate competition and help that nutso offer be a little less nutso.

It's weird, because talent only plays a portion of the formula for a QB. Darnold has good mobility and a good arm. Levis has a "once-in-a-draft" type velocity and effortless deep ball. But if we deduce that Levis has more gumption and composure than Darnold, he's already 50% more likely to be better. Darnold reminds me a bit of David Carr when he got here after playing for the Texans and getting railroaded. Tons of arm talent, decent mobility, pretty smart kid... but all of that wasn't enough to offset the shell shock of having played several years for the Texans without an OL and getting the snot beat out of him. I think selective aggression is what the smart teams do. We have played the BPA game over QB a number of years in a row when it seemed like we should have made that pick. Fields is an example. If we decide collectively that this is the year of the QB, we have to go for it in my opinion. You're rarely in the conversation to get the best QB in the draft and from where we are, we can potentially make that happen.

it feels like this every year though, doesn't it? you have 2 guys by merit who should be 1-2 in my mind in Stroud and Young. Then you have 2 "tools" guys in Richardson and Levis that are making QB needy teams salivate while watching Derek Carr get a $90 million contract and Geno Smith get $40 guaranteed over 3 years. We can't afford to lose the musical chairs game this season, again, and have to go with a patchwork starter for the 4th consecutive season with Bridgewater, Darnold, Mayfield, and ....Wentz? The veterans are finding homes fast and furious. If we don't get our starter in the draft, which excludes all but Young, Stroud, and a big maybe on Levis... you don't have a starter. AR will certainly take a redshirt season and I am about 50/50 on Levis, but the other 2 should likely be in the mix for Week 1. We need one of those guys.

we have to decide if it will be less expensive to go from 9 to 3 then 3 to 1 or go from 9 to 1. all these QBs jumping up the board is going to see a lot of the original Top 5 talents slip into the 6-10 range. I think 3 of the first 4 picks will be QB and Seattle may be inclined to take Levis. Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, Christian Gonzalez, Lukas Van Ness, Peter Skoronski, plus the fastest rising WR prospect if you keep Fields... all but 1 of these players will be available at 6th if Seattle goes QB. If you can trade down to 9th, take the far better pick package, and still get one of your Top 3 guys on the board with QB excluded you have to explore it. These are difference makers at their positions even at 9th with the run on QB expected to happen.

Carolina has seen something this process that has taken them out of the veteran QB market. By taking themselves out of the Carr conversation to now Rodgers talking to the Jets near exclusively, we've got our eye on someone pretty hard. I like it as long as we don't have to give up 3 total 1st round picks. Bears aren't going to trade Fields. Too quiet on that front. I think we like Stroud and I think Houston also likes Stroud, so we either trade up to 1st to take him or we get up to 1st to take Young. I think they're feeling the pressure to do something big time big time.

it confuses me how people are so high on Richardson now when we knew he was going to do this. in fact, his ability to run and throw as well as he does in pajamas makes me wonder why he wasn't more productive during his college career. in a weird way, his testing in throwing has made me even more concerned because if he has that kind of arm then why were his passing stats so pedestrian? there's something wrong with this situation. you can talk scheme, bad players around him, bad coaching, etc. but Cam went to Blinn CC and won a championship then did the same at Auburn. Lamar Jackson had one of the best dual threat seasons in NCAA history. if Richardson is a mix of those two, why does that mix play like crap? The experts were smart enough to sniff out Malik Willis last year when his combine had him at the top of everyone's board. people have to wake up on this kid, because he doesn't have the tangible results to match his immense skill.

I really wasn’t (and only jokingly am “off him”) it was just a joke, man.

This may have honest to god put me off this dude.