Lurk21

Exactly!! This has shades of the Mac Jones draft all over!! A few teams desperate and all it takes is a couple going early and a couple teams desperate for the next! Your logic makes sense, draft the board and go next draft but you know how some Gms n Coaches get.

I like this guy as much as I do Williams and not far off from walker

Another thing, if somebody trades ahead of us to get Sanders, there is a possibility of a panic run. Dart or Milroe chatter could make someone show their hand since it'd put a spotlight on the Saints taking the next qb available.

I'm not against Tmac but I feel Golden makes as much since in the offense we have. His game resembles Coker and Leggette to a degree. Golden gives us the quick twitch wr with yac that could find open spots for Bryce faster. Even then, I would rather trade back a few and draft either.

The best way to look at it!! The best value for our team... the pick has to contribute!!

I'm not mad either way they go honestly bc we not a complete team. We could easily draft Vernon ghoslton all over and that value wouldn't mean a thing. We aren't in the position of wasting picks. Our pick needs to be a starter and with limited guess work of how he'd fit in. Evero, doesn't deserve the choice of wasting another player career. Chinn and Luvu could've did more damage. Hopefully we hit the pick if it's Walker or Williams but we need production for our team... offense or defense.

I feel you! Value is only determined by certain measures and for our team, a tight end holds value. Now if they really feel one of the other tight ends can do something, ok but 6 of the last remaining teams in the playoffs, would've struggled heavily without solid tight end play. I'd rather have Jeremy Shockey then Brian burns... in perspective. I'd be happy with Warren bc you know you getting a starter. His game translates with minimal flaws. Remove Kelce from Kc and you probably don't have a few of those rings either.

100 receptions is nothing to sneeze at but I think the biggest thing is he makes the offense more unpredictable. He is a mismatch going out and you can't tip your hat on run or pass plays in 2 tight end or 1 tight end sets. That being said, I don't think they will draft him unless the board shakes a certain way. It does really feel they are locked in on the Georgia boys.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say they run it with Rattler. They committed to Carr, so we know they were already willing to tank for Manning. Could they go up for Sanders, of course. I still think they ride it out this year bc they are trying to get out if contracts and dead cap.

Yeah we have invested a bunch ot time with tight ends and it's clearly obvious they like Warren. I think they really wanted to dive into the others to see the gap personally and make a decision off that. If they feel Taylor or 1 of the other tight ends have good upside as a 2 way tight end, they may go that route. Warren is the only 1 right now that shows he could be a starter bc he isn't a liability in run or pass. They have options. The same goes for edge. They are trying to see the gap between Walker etc and the next wave of rushers. The value may be too good to not go offense early and then go edge later if the drop aint bad. This is a true battle amongst defense n offense in the draft room and they are doing a mini process of elimination.

Yeah we have invested a bunch ot time with tight ends and it's clearly obvious they like Warren. I think they really wanted to dive into the others to see the gap personally and make a decision off that. If they feel Taylor or 1 of the other tight ends have good upside as a 2 way tight end, they may go that route. Warren is the only 1 right now that shows he could be a starter bc he isn't a liability in run or pass. They have options.

I said this a week ago and someone said it's idiotic basically bc they want Rodgers. Newsflash, Rodgers is a 1 year bandaid at most and if he gets hurt, Pittsburgh has nothing else but just traded for Metcalf. I still think Shedaur may go to the Giants tho. Feels its a battle in the front office on him. We will see but I'd gladly take that trade package lol

Honestly, I couod see Pittsburgh moving all the way to 3 to get Sanders. Their window is now and Tomlin clock is ticking. Their roster doesn't have many holes, so picks shouldn't worry them. Depends on the Giants mindset but they could bend them over and get future 1st since they don't have any 2nds.

I sometimes question why the mention height when most edge defenders are around 6'2. Maybe it's bc he was a senior and then are nitpicking.

His tape is as good as Grahams and he damn near unblockable. He hasn't been an issue on the field much but did have something goin on with Kiffin, so vetting what's going on off the field is going on hard. I could see him as a trade back pick if they feel he checks out. I know with Derrick brown in place, he wouldn't be in line to cut up. We will see.

We met with him at the senior bowl too... there is interest but no telling the severity. I'd assume if he slid to rd 3 or maybe round 2 if they feel the defensive guys could guide him like the Boys on the eagles defense did with Carter etc.

Jax is going Tet or oline... they have invested a ton of time on Tet and want to pair him with Thomas Jr. Somebody is gonna drop and I'm thinking it's Carter more n more. 3 is going to be Sanders... rather it's the giants or somebody going up to 3 or 4 to get him. Jeanty is a raider.

I have a hard time seeing Cleveland not go qb but if the giants wouldn't rip the Panthers, I'm sure it'd be talked about but I think they'd at least want our 2nd and that's too rich for us rn. I wouldn't mind Carter but I think the possibility is easier if he drops to 5.

Yeah Williams isn't horrible but I feel if you replaced him with some of the other 2nd round prospects at Georgia, the production would've been the same. I dont see much a difference in getting him at 8 vs the other prospects later.

Demeanor and lauded as a leader too!! Pitts was a 1 trick pony coming out with upside. Watching Warren launch himself over piles to score a td run, is the grit we need. Reminded me of Tolbert , Stew or Cam fighting for 1 yard often. I get the not wanting a tight end early bc of others but he just plays angry and with passion.

That's sound logic! I think we could make a case for a few players. I know its not popular with a few but Warren gives to the identity we want. Tremble is mostly a blocker. Sanders flashed late but mostly a receiving threat at the moment. Warren is an automatic 1st down, run blocks, runs the ball and can even line up and throw it. To me he is if you took the Taysom Hill and actually could play tight end too. I just think looking at Goedert, Kelce, Laporta, Hoeckenson, Baltimore Tight ends, Knox and Kindcaid and etc... all the last few teams had stellar Tight end play. Warren allows you to be unpredictable on offense bc he is equally good at being a target, as he is a blocker. Don't want to run Bryce on a qb sneak, plug Warren in with the threat to pass. I would be happy with him, Walker or a few others. As long as the player isn't riding the bench year 1.

Very much possible! Just that Qbs always get hyped up the closer to the draft. Somebody definitely would go get him if he starts sliding and I'd assume 7 and 8 are definitely trade up spots if he gets past 3. Pats probably don't want to get out of the top oline in a trade back, So I'd count them out. Jags seem bent on Tet and Graham, so don't see them moving too far back. Oakland will most likely take Jeanty. Jets... definitely a wildcard with so many holes...

I see Ward Sanders Hunter Carter Graham Jeanty As definitely going before our pick. Then you add in teams with young qbs that need protection... So add in at least 1 Oline(maybe 2)... I think it will come down to Walker n Warren or trade back and Nick or Golden. Funny he has Warren top 10 but he gets so much hate. Dude is athletic and has the dawg mindset Dan looking for.

I like this guy's energy!

Idk.. I heard Antonio character was always something but Golden looks like the good version of Antonio in Pittsburgh.