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Now do the last 2 years. The years the top prospects were starters. Theyre considering their careers and not just this season

Why wouldn't you use his official height? As if you weren't aware of the whole concept of college teams fudging these numbers nor aware that we all know that nor aware that this was recently a storyline of the combine covered here?

Who's saying this? I haven't seen it? Disgruntled huddlers?

It was less than I expected. Still not anything to overlook. Heard somewhere that the multiple picks each year were more desirable to them than more picks over more years or something like that

A post draft mock isn't very challenging

Ok

Forever?

I'm not completely blown away about it but it's fun and that's the point. Panthers huddle is like a canoe packed full of baboons. Every ripple that hits the canoe is going to cause a monkey fight on that canoe. So a wave like this is bound to create reactions.

I actually said that in gest having not seen the other threads mentioning it

They trade it

Damn

Something doesn't make sense

If I pay $3 for a taco and make another $3 I still paid for it. It wasn't free.

I don't believe he would have qualified with as little playing time as he would have had

It's too early to see any affects of that trade in their roster. At least wait until they are finished giving up firsts to judge. It will be 2024 before any cumulative affect could be analyzed. Their original pick turned in to Micah Parsons a likely future HoF player if he stays healthy

It's not a prediction. It's betting odds.

You could have just said "maybe".

It was noted all season long how bad Florida's receivers were.

There is a very good reason for that. I wasn't replying to you. I hadn't seen your post. I was replying to the post I quoted. I think we agree so I'm not understanding your post. I didn't cherry pick I just found Ravens opinions on various forums. I don't think I found any blaming their team and wanting him resigned at at what he's asking. They want him to engage in a reasonable contract negotiation. They mostly don't think any other team will pay what he will accept and throw 2 1sts for the ability to do so. All of this seams fairly logical.

I'm having a hard time finding Ravens fans who don't want Lamar to step off of his stance and negotiate a contract. Not seeing any yet that want the team to cave. Its not about Lamar unfortunately. It's the battle to normalize fully guarunteed contracts

What Ravens fans think: they like the guy but seem to have realistic perspective "He could hold out but does he really want to leave behind all those millions? The Ravens still kind of hold the cards." "Do I think there's collusion? Of course. I think there's tons of it on both sides every year. I also think that Lamar is asking for one of two things (or both)... a) a 4-5 year contract, fully guaranteed, or b) a long term deal with more gtd $ than Watson (i.e. at least $230M gtd). And I think its extremely likely that no team in the league is willing to meet that asking price AND surrender at least two first round picks to do so" "Players are pretending to be dumb. They know the NFLPA and Lamar screwed up. If he had a sanctioned agent a deal would have been done , instead he chose the devil on his shoulder in the form of the NFLPA and full guaranteed dollars" "It's a shame he got such bad advice, who knows what could have been if he had an agent that would have negotiated a proper deal last year. No way all of this crap hasn't weighed on his mind and affected his play. Lamar really needs to put this shiz behind him, get a contract in place and get his ass to work." "Honestly I am not surprised so many teams are out on Lamar. He is a great player but no one is going to throw significant guaranteed money at a mobile QB who has taken big injuries the past 2 seasons and has not been near that MVP level in either of them, save for a 3 game stretch this season. Basically if there is going to be another team to make the same blunder as the Browns it would need to be on a player who does not have the injury history Lamar does" "If lamar declined some poo like that, he is ***** crazy." "I feel if you are going to give up 2 firsts and all the money Lamar wants, you better be a team who is a QB away from a Super Bowl. Those teams that aren't interested? They are rebuilding and do not want to take on that contract. Given how valuable rookie contracts have become for QBs... that's easier to deal with than $250M or whatever Lamar wants." "It has become very clear that the Watson deal was an aberration and no other team is stupid enough to emulate it which is why this situation is what it is to begin with and that is before any of the other question marks."

It's possible. It's also possible everyone doesn't want to pay that much for him. He can be quite good and still not worth the fully gaarunteed contract he's asking at the same time. Fully gar

They didn't come out and say anything. Joe Person did and he didn't attribute a quote.

You must not know any Ravens fans

I really don't think he knew. What a waste of energy that was.