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@Varking Which don't you like? Byrd or Shenault?

I agree. I don't put much stock in it. Though a low score on that test in this case jives with a 40% completion rate and 10 percentile pff under pressure. Stroud's accuracy is top of the class. His mobility, processing and speed isn't. The question is, should we deluge the Huddle with as many intelligence jokes as there have been midget jokes?

Meh. Standard generalized language. What did you expect him to say, most did good but one really really sucked?

And Byrd is probably the fastest player on the team and Shenault was awesome last year.

Sigh. We don't discount it. We just don't weigh that as end all be all determiner of durability, because its not. The #1 indicator is previous injury history. And the only analysis we have says the opposite of what your saying. Its just not enough to outweigh Young's positives, most importantly his elite processing. Those same NFL analysts you talk about say they would take Young #1. PFF, Draft Buzz, Sports News, ESPN,Walter Football, CBS Sports, NFL.com, and SI.com all have Bryce Young their choice for best QB. Not mock draft. Best QB on their board. Davis said Young is the better QB and dismissed the size concerns. Smitty said Young is the taller processor and said Young should go 1 overall. Kuechly dismissed the size concerns.

If Stroud gets hurt (hopefully not), I will only make 10% of the threads made on Young's durability.

Assuming he's going to get hurt because he's lighter is rather flawed. Ask Matt Coral.

Even though smaller QB's historically have been more durable, theres a cut off somewhere and Young is below it?

Its no use. Analysis, data, examples will not persuade the biased. Its like Rhule and his longer arm shlt.

Your the one saying smaller QB's have durability issues. Do you have anything to offer on that besides bias?

Ok sub 200. Show the evidence. I'll wait.

Or play under pressure, which I think is a bigger indicator than S2. Stroud's pff under pressure is 10 percentile.

There are fewer shorter QBs because of BIAS. Especially the old schoolers. The same bias that refuses to show ANY evidence that smaller QB's get hurt more or have shorter careers. Wilson in interviews has said he was told over and over he could never be an NFL QB. Carol took a chance.

Please show any analysis or examples that show smaller QB's get hurt more or have shorter careers, because the only analysis I've seen has shown the exact opposite. Our experience with Cam and Corral shows the exact opposite. Please, convince me that smaller QB's are injured more and have shorter careers.

I don't know where they got the number from. You should contact them and let them know their site is wrong.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2380236 This article says 4.58 Still one of the fastest in this class.

Its just a data point, like a 40 time. We all assume he did bad and that's why he didn't want to share it. How bad? Maybe we'll see in time. The rumor isn't going to hurt his draft position as the teams considering him know the real score. Young didn't participate in the combine so we're missing a bunch of data points on him. Speaking of 40 time, someone found one for Bryce somewhere. Here are 40 times for the QB's : https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2023

The coaches know the score so this garbage shouldn't effect his draft position. I just wish Stroud would just share his score already.

Ok. Prove it. Because the only analysis shared here shows the exact opposite which jives with our history of Cam and Corral. Give examples or show an analysis.

I bet you're right. But they're not going to let you take it over and over in one sitting and its probably random and different enough each time that you can't gain much from just a second or 3rd try.

If his score is that much better, I hope he addresses this.

I know right. And some act like those elite processing traits can be just coached into them. If so we don't know what Young's processing ceiling is. All we do know, is its an VERY important trait, that shows up on tape.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article274533111.html#storylink=cpy “I think that Bryce Young is a better quarterback,” Thomas said at his Ten58 Sports Bar & Lounge on Thursday. “And the reason why I say that — as you guys can see — Ten58 is based on my time at (the University of) Georgia. So, I’m partial to SEC guys. I got to watch Bryce Young play a lot, and he’s a guy that played against NFL competition almost every week. When you think about the number of guys that are drafted out of the SEC, and that go on to have really good, successful careers — I think Bryce Young, he’s going to be more suited, ready and molded to be prepared to play on Day 1.” Davis — who spent 14 of his 16 NFL seasons in Carolina — doesn’t think Young’s undersized stature (5-foot-10 and 204 pounds) is a problem. Davis played against former New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees for the majority of his career. Brees turned out to be an All-Pro talent at 6-foot and 209 pounds. “People keep talking about this size thing,” Davis said. “One thing that has been completely dispelled — Drew Brees is a Hall of Fame (caliber) quarterback. I watched him from the other side of the field get it done time in and time out. So, there’s no issues when it comes to being short. You think about being more frail — I think in the NFL, you can’t even land hard on quarterbacks anymore anyway or it’s a penalty. So, that’s not going to be a big issue. . . . Expect Bryce Young to be, possibly, the No. 1 pick.” Along with the Panthers’ need at quarterback, Davis has some other ideas for Carolina’s draft plans. “I think with the loss of DJ Moore, you’ve got to do something at the wide receiver spot,” Davis said. “You’ve got to do something opposite (pass rusher) Brian Burns, when it comes to getting after the quarterback. So, those are areas of need, that first and foremost, we have to address. I feel like we made a huge step last year with the offensive line — having that continuity — drafting Icky (Ekwonu). He turned out to be a really, really good draft pick, and he’s only going to continue to get better. So, I think, without a doubt, you add another wide receiver, you add some (pass) rush help, and we’re on our way.” “For me, it’s all about getting the fan base excited,” Davis said. “People are going to be excited about the Knights game, they’re going to be excited about what the Panthers are getting ready to do with this draft, and to be the start of that — it’s an amazing opportunity for me, and I’m really looking forward to that. I want to make sure I’m doing it in the right way.”