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I know a few of people have off-handedly mentioned the writing style was a bit weird and overdramatic. Just wanted to let you all know that it reads like that because it’s entirely AI generated. I use some writing AI programs and could tell it was fishy real quick, so I ran it through a couple programs and it came out as 98% AI generated. No idea who that dude is, if he was fired, or if he was doing our drafts, but there’s a good chance most of that is false. Just a heads up

In fairness to him (kind of), he was at best a WR3 or WR4 serving as a WR1 and was injured. He definitely sucks but the fact the WR core consisted of Devin Funchess, Russell Shephard, Brenton Bersin, Kaelin Clay, and Damiere Byrd… IN A PLAYOFF GAME… shows how god damn awful Gettleman was (and how good cam was).

Being top 5 in the league in pass attempts has nothing to do with our run blocking offensive linemen struggling in pass protection? And quite frankly, I don’t care what the rest of the league is doing. We showed it was possible to win running the ball with Wilks last year and instead ditched it for something we aren’t built to do just because it’s trendy.

And we are the worst sports organization on the continent since he became owner and went away from our traditional team values. Do you think he’s done a good job as owner? The only positive stretch since he’s bought us was when we put Wilks as our HC and went back to traditional Panther football.

I mostly just stalk the boards and don't post much but seeing people spam this narrative is starting to annoy me. I’m tired of people saying we have a bad offensive line. Just last year, we were talking about the same group possibly being the best in franchise history. Sure, we’ve had some injuries, but it wasn’t that long ago we were trotting out Michael Jordan, Cam Erving, Matt Paradis, and John Miller out as our starters. The problem (the EXTREMELY predictable problem) is that we changed the entire scheme to fit the #1 overall draft pick and there are severe limitations in what we can with him. Our entire offensive line is filled with huge maulers meant to pound the ball down people’s throats and power football. We drafted the quarterback with LITERALLY the WORST physicals in the HISTORY of football. I said then that we would have to design our entire roster around his limitations, not his strengths. Defenses stack the box because he poses absolutely 0 threat throwing deep. This isn’t a chest-pounding, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" post; rather, it’s to say that I (22 years old with 0 experience at all in coaching or managing football), and many others, saw this coming from a mile away. You are not going to convince me that an entire organization of people who dedicate their lives to this sport actually looked at the construction of our roster, the history and culture of our franchise, and the available prospects… and picked Bryce Young over CJ Stroud. It just makes no sense at all. This isn't even a dig at Bryce, he would be fine with a team that fit his strengths perfectly. We just simply weren't, aren't, and never SHOULD be that team. That isn't Panther football. TL;DR: David Tepper can go fugg himself and his franchise. I love our history and I’ve always been proud to call myself a fan no matter how good we were, but this guy has stripped us of everything I cherished and football isn’t important enough to blindly support the ghost of a team I once loved. FUGG HIM!!!!

Ya audibling into a screen in that scenario should be enough for even his strongest defenders to get a grip. Kid just doesn’t have it mentally anymore, no confidence. Just awful.

These 10 mph meat ball checkdowns into the flats are just begging to be pick sixed it’s actually getting ridiculous

Read option with 35 year old Andy Dalton in the 1 minute drill is quite possibly the worst play call I've ever seen

What the absolute fug is that read option call

Yep. Not a single unit on offense is playing even average right now. Receivers are having trouble separating, the OL isn't creating gaps in the run game or giving Bryce consistent time, the RBs aren't breaking tackles, the play calling is conservative and boring, and the quarterback is missing the few opportunities we do get. Going back to the graph, some of the blame definitely is on the WRs but Bryce has been leaving the pocket too early and just doesn't seem confident in anything. Sam Darnolding this kid into bad habits and ruining his career before it even starts would really suck.

He is an above average pass rusher, not even close to elite (so far).

Seriously. It was considered one of his strong suits until a test that you take on a computer said he has bad processing. CJ Stroud was BY FAR the favorite for the #1 pick up until a few weeks after the combine and then suddenly fell off the face of the planet for some reason. It’s a little ridiculous how far the pendulum swung when nobody played a game or even threw a football in shorts.

LMAO I'm going to miss these pre-draft shitposts

How I feel exactly. I really like the guy and he seems to be a generational football mind, but I just don’t see any way he works long term. He has one of the worst physical profiles I can think of and his play style relies on his mobility. The #1 overall pick should expand what you’re capable of doing schematically, not limit it. We’d be scheming around Bryce Young’s weaknesses, not his strengths. You can’t say the same for any of the other top quarterbacks.

Side note, but why take the player with such physical limitations and arguably the lowest ceiling out of all the top 4 quarterbacks when we were so aggressive in our staff hires? We have all the pieces in place to groom a quarterback with mental and mechanical holes in their game but there are no fixes to being small with a middle of the pack arm.

This is what I think too. You don’t want any quarterback to be running around like that inside the pocket, let alone a tiny one. I just don’t really see much of his game translating. I love how intelligent is and I don’t think he’ll completely bust because of that intelligence but his physical limitations exist and I don’t get why they’re so ignored just because he’s fun to watch. Feel like we’ve already had tons of examples of guys fitting that description who just don’t work out in the NFL.

I didn't say that he absolutely cannot play under center, I said "if" he can't. He has never done it before. There are adjustments Bryce Young needs to make to play in the pros and there really aren't for Stroud. Is it possible he makes the proper adjustments? Absolutely. Is it still a risk? Absolutely. Stroud is the safest quarterback in the draft but also has tons of potential. If we want to take risks for potentially greater reward, why not just go with Richardson?

Yeah you're absolutely correct. But 20% out of shotgun is still a few hundred plays a season and if he can't play under center then there will be problems. In my opinion, Young will be limited to West Coast offense his entire career no matter how the NFL evolves while Stroud has the skillset to play in almost any scheme. I see Young as an unnecessary risk with only marginally better upside than Stroud, personally.

Agreed. The lack of snaps under center, the time to throw, and the drop back depth really turn me off. Our offensive line is built for the run game and I’d like to stay that way, but I’m not sure how possible that is with Young. I understand he was great at throwing over the middle in college, but could it have been due to variables that are harder to replicate in the NFL (time to throw, drop back depth, etc.)? I don’t really like the dink and dunk offenses and I feel like that’s what we’ll be limited to with Bryce. For those who are okay with that kind of offense, I can see why Bryce would be the guy.

I hate that so few can have a conversation now without going so extreme. A lot of the Stroud guys are pretending like Young is undraftable because of his size and a lot of the Young guys are pretending like his size is completely irrelevant. It's annoying because I just want to read good football discussions!!!!!!11!!1 Anyway, being 200 pounds (on a good day) is risky for a QB who spends so much time in the pocket and is getting hit by people 100-150 pounds larger than him and just as athletic. Can he overcome it? Sure, he's smart as hell. It's a risk, nonetheless. Side note, don't count on him gaining size in the NFL. He gained 11 pounds over the course of his college career in a S&C + Nutrition program that is as good as any in the NFL. He'll naturally get a little bigger but he'll always be small. If the coaching staff feels that he's head and shoulders above Stroud at actually playing football, I'll disagree with their assessment (stop pretending these guys know better 100% of the time just because they are in the NFL, they get it wrong all the time too) but I'll trust them enough to support the decision. I just want to us win football games!!!

For me, the QB debate comes down to one phrase: "I don't know." There are so many qualities about Bryce Young that point to him being a generational talent but there are also qualities that make me say "I don't know" if he's going to be able to get away with that in the NFL. His drop back depth being so deep, his time to throw being so long, etc. Obviously his frame is talked about and that's another question mark, but every prospect can get injured. Bottom line: even though Bryce Young has elite traits, there are also a lot of questions about how he plays and adapts at the next level. CJ Stroud might not have as many truly elite traits, but I can't think of a single question mark. He is above average at every aspect of the quarterback position while being a truly elite passer of the football. For a franchise that has had the inconsistencies we have had and the recent stretch of awfulness we've gone through, I think there is a genuine risk to our long-term future if we draft a bust. I know it is the NFL, but I don't see a way CJ Stroud busts (barring a freak incident). Think he is the best fit for our franchise and would bring a level of consistency we've never had.

Why not all three?

Ugh we could have had Darnold and Dalton. Those beautiful red beards together would have truly been magnificent to see.

He quite literally has had a negative record in both high school and college football. To think he's going to come here and consistently win with us, a team that is has picked inside the top-10 for going on 5 years, because he can run fast and jump high is straight up delusional. Him getting hyped up as a first round pick does not change the fact that he can't win football games at any level of football. I feel like if Cam Newton never existed, this guy wouldn't even be getting consideration as a first round pick.